Folder display -- can I remove navigation pane? customize tool-bar?

In the folder display (the window that pops up when you click on a folder),
there are two ways it would be nice to make it look more like XP.

-- Can I just make the Navigation Pane (that thing on the left with
'favorite links' and the directory tree) go away? Especially for a laptop
with limited screen territory, but in general. (for instance, in XP I like
to have folders with just a narrow list of files, to tuck away in a corner,
or if I'm moving files between folders.)

-- Can I customize the toolbar? right-click doesn't seem to do anything,
nor whatever else I've tried, and I can't find anything in either the Vista
help files nor the book I have. (A few old discussions I found on the net
complain of this but hinted it was in the hopper to be fixed.) In XP I
really love the up-arrow to go to the parent folder (perhaps because I often
get to a folder by a shortcut rather than climbing a tree). And there were
some other icons that I liked also, like delete. I know there are
workarounds, maybe even preferable ones, but I really liked the old toolbar,
while the new one seems like a huge (and it does seem bigger) waste of
pixels. Burn?? If I can't customize it, can I just make it go away (and
use the menus of Classic look)?

TIA, Grumpy Dinosaur

Press Alt and the Up arrow to go to the parent folder or just click o
the parent folder in the navigation bar
For other tips on changing the folder view check out some of Brink
tutorial
'http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/70819-windows-explorer-folder-view-settings.html?filter[11]=File%20Folder%20Settings
(http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/70...der%20Settings
Also when you buy a new car, do you want it to look or drive like you
old car or do enjoy that new car feeling

--
Mr GRiM

For the first one: Click Organize, then you can make panes (dis)appear in
the Layout menu.

"ggull" <> wrote in message
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> In the folder display (the window that pops up when you click on a
> folder), there are two ways it would be nice to make it look more like XP.
>
> -- Can I just make the Navigation Pane (that thing on the left with
> 'favorite links' and the directory tree) go away? Especially for a laptop
> with limited screen territory, but in general. (for instance, in XP I
> like to have folders with just a narrow list of files, to tuck away in a
> corner, or if I'm moving files between folders.)
>
> -- Can I customize the toolbar? right-click doesn't seem to do anything,
> nor whatever else I've tried, and I can't find anything in either the
> Vista help files nor the book I have. (A few old discussions I found on
> the net complain of this but hinted it was in the hopper to be fixed.) In
> XP I really love the up-arrow to go to the parent folder (perhaps because
> I often get to a folder by a shortcut rather than climbing a tree). And
> there were some other icons that I liked also, like delete. I know there
> are workarounds, maybe even preferable ones, but I really liked the old
> toolbar, while the new one seems like a huge (and it does seem bigger)
> waste of pixels. Burn?? If I can't customize it, can I just make it go
> away (and use the menus of Classic look)?
>
> TIA, Grumpy Dinosaur
>

ggull;858041 Wrote:
> In the folder display (the window that pops up when you click on a
> folder),
> there are two ways it would be nice to make it look more like XP.
>
> -- Can I just make the Navigation Pane (that thing on the left with
> 'favorite links' and the directory tree) go away? Especially for a
> laptop
> with limited screen territory, but in general. (for instance, in XP I
> like
> to have folders with just a narrow list of files, to tuck away in a
> corner,
> or if I'm moving files between folders.)
>
> -- Can I customize the toolbar? right-click doesn't seem to do
> anything,
> nor whatever else I've tried, and I can't find anything in either the
> Vista
> help files nor the book I have. (A few old discussions I found on the
> net
> complain of this but hinted it was in the hopper to be fixed.) In XP I
> really love the up-arrow to go to the parent folder (perhaps because I
> often
> get to a folder by a shortcut rather than climbing a tree). And there
> were
> some other icons that I liked also, like delete. I know there are
> workarounds, maybe even preferable ones, but I really liked the old
> toolbar,
> while the new one seems like a huge (and it does seem bigger) waste of
> pixels. Burn?? If I can't customize it, can I just make it go away (and
> use the menus of Classic look)?
>
> TIA, Grumpy Dinosaur

You can remove the navigation pane as described above. More
specifically, after clicking Orangize, then click Layout, then click
Navigation Pane. Each click of that will turn it on or off and it will
show you by coloring it.

Currently you cannot customize the toolbar (Where the Burn, View and
Organize buttons are) as I would like to be able to do this too
inserting a copy/paste/delete button since I do a lot of that on a
constant basis.

Lastly, there is one alternative to clicking an "up" button that you
will just have to get used to. As you navigate through folders, each one
in line is displayed in the address bar, descending from Left to right.
So if you want to go back up to the previous folder, just click on it's
name in the address bar.

One exception to this I have found, is, say if you prefer some elements
of XP still, like I do, and you like to have your Music, Video and
Pictures folder in your Documents folder, creating shortcuts to those
from your User Folder works. But when you want to go back into your
Documents folder via the address bar, you can't. It reverts up to your
User name folder. So what I figured out you can do, is Cut and Paste the
Music, Video and Pictures folder from your user folder, into your
documents folder. The system will synchronize the folders on a constant
basis but at the same time, if you click into any of those folders, you
can navigate back out into your documents folder clicking Documents in
the address bar.

Alas, there is no up button but it would be kind of nice in some
regards. Like sometimes I want to navigate up from Documents into My
Computer but that's not there anymore either, so you have to click two
extra clicks to get to it using the address bar, when before it would
only take one click (and if you turn off your navigation pane). But even
having the link to Computer in the Navigation pane as a shortcut, ends
up putting TWO links to it, when say you go to open or save a file and
the open file/save file dialog box appears.

Bit complicated more this Vista is, than XP on some levels I have to
admit. Overall though it does run a bit faster and I like mostly a lot
of the visual elements, but a lot of other elements I have to say I
dislike as well. Like the bar right UNDER the toolbar that has Name,
Type, Details, Date in it.. I don't even want that there. Grr..

There, that's my input for the day.


--
Pharaoh

"ggull" <> wrote in message
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> in XP I really love the up-arrow to go to the parent folder

You don't need it in Vista - just click on the parent folder in the address
bar....

"Mr GRiM" <> wrote ...
> Press Alt and the Up arrow to go to the parent folder or just click on
> the parent folder in the navigation bar.
> For other tips on changing the folder view check out some of Brinks
> tutorials .....
Thanks for the the Alt Up arrow hint, and for the link to the tutorials.

> Also when you buy a new car, do you want it to look or drive like your
> old car or do enjoy that new car feeling?
Well, I don't enjoy new car "improvements" just to be new, just because the
engineers felt they had to change something to justify their salaries, like
putting that wacky steering wheel (what the heck is that for anyway?) behind
the driver's seat to avoid cluttering the dashboard. Or lights that stay on
when you leave the car just long enough that you can't tell for sure they
really are going to go off.

"Pharaoh" <> wrote ...
> You can remove the navigation pane as described above. More
> specifically, after clicking Orangize, then click Layout, then click
> Navigation Pane. Each click of that will turn it on or off and it will
> show you by coloring it.

Thanks to you and Tom W. for this. I know I looked under Organize, but
somehow missed it.