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chief123
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      04-18-2005
I am having to install an earlier security update (834707) for IE XPsp2. With
XP1, I was able to use the /n:v switch to force this install. However, with
the XP2 version of this patch, this switch does not work and I can't ID a
comparable switch for the XP2 version of the same patch. Does anyone know
what switch to use to force the install? Thanks.
 
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      04-19-2005
What makes you think you need to install this patch?

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"chief123" <> wrote in message
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>I am having to install an earlier security update (834707) for IE XPsp2.
>With
> XP1, I was able to use the /n:v switch to force this install. However,
> with
> the XP2 version of this patch, this switch does not work and I can't ID a
> comparable switch for the XP2 version of the same patch. Does anyone know
> what switch to use to force the install? Thanks.



 
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      04-19-2005
Due to a "fault", so to speak, in SUS. To be short, SUS continually queues up
the same updates, if though they have been superceded by a newer update that
is already installed on the client. SUS doesn't understand this, and will
queue up the older versions. Usually this involves the Cumulative Update for
IE.

The way around this problem is to have the SUS admin un-approve the older
updates. Another way is to force the install of the older updates SUS wants
to install. I want to have all my information on this solid before I present
the issue to the corporate group that manages the SUS infrastructure.

Thanks

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> What makes you think you need to install this patch?
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "chief123" <> wrote in message
> news:55CC1B14-5F27-402E-A3B7-...
> >I am having to install an earlier security update (834707) for IE XPsp2.
> >With
> > XP1, I was able to use the /n:v switch to force this install. However,
> > with
> > the XP2 version of this patch, this switch does not work and I can't ID a
> > comparable switch for the XP2 version of the same patch. Does anyone know
> > what switch to use to force the install? Thanks.

>
>
>

 
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      04-19-2005
First, let me state that I have absolutely no knowledge of WSUS - and don't
intend to acquire such knowledge until some fool decides to make me a
sysadmin!<g>

I think you're probably going about things the wrong way - you need to find
out WHY WSUS is not perceiving 'reality', and fixing that, rather than
trying to force things that were never intended to run on SP2 to do so!!!

The patch is included in SP2 - if it's the only error, then it may be due
to local issues, and if it's a common fault then it may be due to Server
issues. Either way - you should direct your query to a more appropriate
newsgroup, dealing with WSUS problems rather than Windows Update problems.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"chief123" <> wrote in message
news:F487E53C-B3EE-4D1E-86FC-...
> Due to a "fault", so to speak, in SUS. To be short, SUS continually queues
> up
> the same updates, if though they have been superceded by a newer update
> that
> is already installed on the client. SUS doesn't understand this, and will
> queue up the older versions. Usually this involves the Cumulative Update
> for
> IE.
>
> The way around this problem is to have the SUS admin un-approve the older
> updates. Another way is to force the install of the older updates SUS
> wants
> to install. I want to have all my information on this solid before I
> present
> the issue to the corporate group that manages the SUS infrastructure.
>
> Thanks
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
>> What makes you think you need to install this patch?
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>>
>> "chief123" <> wrote in message
>> news:55CC1B14-5F27-402E-A3B7-...
>> >I am having to install an earlier security update (834707) for IE XPsp2.
>> >With
>> > XP1, I was able to use the /n:v switch to force this install. However,
>> > with
>> > the XP2 version of this patch, this switch does not work and I can't ID
>> > a
>> > comparable switch for the XP2 version of the same patch. Does anyone
>> > know
>> > what switch to use to force the install? Thanks.

>>
>>
>>



 
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      04-19-2005
The Security Bulletin located at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-038.mspx lists a
download for Internet Explorer 6 for Windows XP Service Pack 2. If this
update is already part of Service Pack 2, then why is this listed and
available?

As stated, this is a fault in SUS and there is no real "fix" other than
making the older updates unavailable in SUS. -OR- Forcing the install of the
older Cumulative Security Updates for IE, followed by the latest version.
This is the information I have located on this issue from SUSserver.com, etc.

Basically, I'm just testing all this before I inform the SUS folks on what
they need to do, which would be to un-approve the older cumulative security
updates for IE.

Let me re-phrase the question. The "newer" security updates I have
downloaded for XPsp2 do not support the older command switches to force an
install (/n:v). I'm looking for the equivalent command switch to do this with
the newer updates that use Update.exe.

Thanks.



My original question was how to force an install of the patch. Not whether


"Noel Paton" wrote:

> First, let me state that I have absolutely no knowledge of WSUS - and don't
> intend to acquire such knowledge until some fool decides to make me a
> sysadmin!<g>
>
> I think you're probably going about things the wrong way - you need to find
> out WHY WSUS is not perceiving 'reality', and fixing that, rather than
> trying to force things that were never intended to run on SP2 to do so!!!
>
> The patch is included in SP2 - if it's the only error, then it may be due
> to local issues, and if it's a common fault then it may be due to Server
> issues. Either way - you should direct your query to a more appropriate
> newsgroup, dealing with WSUS problems rather than Windows Update problems.
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "chief123" <> wrote in message
> news:F487E53C-B3EE-4D1E-86FC-...
> > Due to a "fault", so to speak, in SUS. To be short, SUS continually queues
> > up
> > the same updates, if though they have been superceded by a newer update
> > that
> > is already installed on the client. SUS doesn't understand this, and will
> > queue up the older versions. Usually this involves the Cumulative Update
> > for
> > IE.
> >
> > The way around this problem is to have the SUS admin un-approve the older
> > updates. Another way is to force the install of the older updates SUS
> > wants
> > to install. I want to have all my information on this solid before I
> > present
> > the issue to the corporate group that manages the SUS infrastructure.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >
> >> What makes you think you need to install this patch?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >>
> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>
> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> >>
> >> "chief123" <> wrote in message
> >> news:55CC1B14-5F27-402E-A3B7-...
> >> >I am having to install an earlier security update (834707) for IE XPsp2.
> >> >With
> >> > XP1, I was able to use the /n:v switch to force this install. However,
> >> > with
> >> > the XP2 version of this patch, this switch does not work and I can't ID
> >> > a
> >> > comparable switch for the XP2 version of the same patch. Does anyone
> >> > know
> >> > what switch to use to force the install? Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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Noel Paton
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      04-20-2005
Hmm - you're right, I missed that the first time around.

In that article, look in the 'Security Update Information' section - it
gives the command-line parameters there.
Beyond that, you should really be asking in the WSUS newsgroup -=
microsoft.public.softwareupdatesvcs


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Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"chief123" <> wrote in message
news:0A7EEA56-B3A2-4E04-ACDE-...
> The Security Bulletin located at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-038.mspx lists a
> download for Internet Explorer 6 for Windows XP Service Pack 2. If this
> update is already part of Service Pack 2, then why is this listed and
> available?
>
> As stated, this is a fault in SUS and there is no real "fix" other than
> making the older updates unavailable in SUS. -OR- Forcing the install of
> the
> older Cumulative Security Updates for IE, followed by the latest version.
> This is the information I have located on this issue from SUSserver.com,
> etc.
>
> Basically, I'm just testing all this before I inform the SUS folks on what
> they need to do, which would be to un-approve the older cumulative
> security
> updates for IE.
>
> Let me re-phrase the question. The "newer" security updates I have
> downloaded for XPsp2 do not support the older command switches to force an
> install (/n:v). I'm looking for the equivalent command switch to do this
> with
> the newer updates that use Update.exe.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> My original question was how to force an install of the patch. Not whether
>
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
>> First, let me state that I have absolutely no knowledge of WSUS - and
>> don't
>> intend to acquire such knowledge until some fool decides to make me a
>> sysadmin!<g>
>>
>> I think you're probably going about things the wrong way - you need to
>> find
>> out WHY WSUS is not perceiving 'reality', and fixing that, rather than
>> trying to force things that were never intended to run on SP2 to do so!!!
>>
>> The patch is included in SP2 - if it's the only error, then it may be
>> due
>> to local issues, and if it's a common fault then it may be due to Server
>> issues. Either way - you should direct your query to a more appropriate
>> newsgroup, dealing with WSUS problems rather than Windows Update
>> problems.
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>>
>> "chief123" <> wrote in message
>> news:F487E53C-B3EE-4D1E-86FC-...
>> > Due to a "fault", so to speak, in SUS. To be short, SUS continually
>> > queues
>> > up
>> > the same updates, if though they have been superceded by a newer update
>> > that
>> > is already installed on the client. SUS doesn't understand this, and
>> > will
>> > queue up the older versions. Usually this involves the Cumulative
>> > Update
>> > for
>> > IE.
>> >
>> > The way around this problem is to have the SUS admin un-approve the
>> > older
>> > updates. Another way is to force the install of the older updates SUS
>> > wants
>> > to install. I want to have all my information on this solid before I
>> > present
>> > the issue to the corporate group that manages the SUS infrastructure.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What makes you think you need to install this patch?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>> >>
>> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>> >>
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >>
>> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> >> NG's
>> >>
>> >> "chief123" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:55CC1B14-5F27-402E-A3B7-...
>> >> >I am having to install an earlier security update (834707) for IE
>> >> >XPsp2.
>> >> >With
>> >> > XP1, I was able to use the /n:v switch to force this install.
>> >> > However,
>> >> > with
>> >> > the XP2 version of this patch, this switch does not work and I can't
>> >> > ID
>> >> > a
>> >> > comparable switch for the XP2 version of the same patch. Does anyone
>> >> > know
>> >> > what switch to use to force the install? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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chief123
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      04-20-2005
Yes. I looked at those. None of them seemed to indicate it was the one for
"force install". Only one close was the overwrite OEM files.

I'll repost as per your suggestion. Maybe WSUS works better than the older
SUS in this area.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> Hmm - you're right, I missed that the first time around.
>
> In that article, look in the 'Security Update Information' section - it
> gives the command-line parameters there.
> Beyond that, you should really be asking in the WSUS newsgroup -=
> microsoft.public.softwareupdatesvcs
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "chief123" <> wrote in message
> news:0A7EEA56-B3A2-4E04-ACDE-...
> > The Security Bulletin located at
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-038.mspx lists a
> > download for Internet Explorer 6 for Windows XP Service Pack 2. If this
> > update is already part of Service Pack 2, then why is this listed and
> > available?
> >
> > As stated, this is a fault in SUS and there is no real "fix" other than
> > making the older updates unavailable in SUS. -OR- Forcing the install of
> > the
> > older Cumulative Security Updates for IE, followed by the latest version.
> > This is the information I have located on this issue from SUSserver.com,
> > etc.
> >
> > Basically, I'm just testing all this before I inform the SUS folks on what
> > they need to do, which would be to un-approve the older cumulative
> > security
> > updates for IE.
> >
> > Let me re-phrase the question. The "newer" security updates I have
> > downloaded for XPsp2 do not support the older command switches to force an
> > install (/n:v). I'm looking for the equivalent command switch to do this
> > with
> > the newer updates that use Update.exe.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > My original question was how to force an install of the patch. Not whether
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >
> >> First, let me state that I have absolutely no knowledge of WSUS - and
> >> don't
> >> intend to acquire such knowledge until some fool decides to make me a
> >> sysadmin!<g>
> >>
> >> I think you're probably going about things the wrong way - you need to
> >> find
> >> out WHY WSUS is not perceiving 'reality', and fixing that, rather than
> >> trying to force things that were never intended to run on SP2 to do so!!!
> >>
> >> The patch is included in SP2 - if it's the only error, then it may be
> >> due
> >> to local issues, and if it's a common fault then it may be due to Server
> >> issues. Either way - you should direct your query to a more appropriate
> >> newsgroup, dealing with WSUS problems rather than Windows Update
> >> problems.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >>
> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>
> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> >>
> >> "chief123" <> wrote in message
> >> news:F487E53C-B3EE-4D1E-86FC-...
> >> > Due to a "fault", so to speak, in SUS. To be short, SUS continually
> >> > queues
> >> > up
> >> > the same updates, if though they have been superceded by a newer update
> >> > that
> >> > is already installed on the client. SUS doesn't understand this, and
> >> > will
> >> > queue up the older versions. Usually this involves the Cumulative
> >> > Update
> >> > for
> >> > IE.
> >> >
> >> > The way around this problem is to have the SUS admin un-approve the
> >> > older
> >> > updates. Another way is to force the install of the older updates SUS
> >> > wants
> >> > to install. I want to have all my information on this solid before I
> >> > present
> >> > the issue to the corporate group that manages the SUS infrastructure.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What makes you think you need to install this patch?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >> >>
> >> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> >> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >> >>
> >> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> >> >> NG's
> >> >>
> >> >> "chief123" <> wrote in message
> >> >> news:55CC1B14-5F27-402E-A3B7-...
> >> >> >I am having to install an earlier security update (834707) for IE
> >> >> >XPsp2.
> >> >> >With
> >> >> > XP1, I was able to use the /n:v switch to force this install.
> >> >> > However,
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > the XP2 version of this patch, this switch does not work and I can't
> >> >> > ID
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > comparable switch for the XP2 version of the same patch. Does anyone
> >> >> > know
> >> >> > what switch to use to force the install? Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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