Is there a difference and if so what is it? I am confused. Needing a
little light on the subject.


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bassfisher6522

"bassfisher6522" <> wrote in message
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> Is there a difference and if so what is it? I am confused. Needing a
> little light on the subject.
>
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> bassfisher6522

It took me 2 seconds to bring up Google. Enter forum vs newsgroup

http://blogs.msdn.com/jim_glass/arch...15/597999.aspx

Take a look.

Google is your friend.

bassfisher6522 <> wrote:

>
>Is there a difference and if so what is it? I am confused. Needing a
>little light on the subject.

They are essentially the same thing. The difference is in how you
access the message base.

What you are using is a bulletin board with a web interface, and it's
the kludgiest of methods when it comes to accessing the Vista message
bases that you find listed there.

Also, it looks much busier than it really is because it leeches
messages from outside sources - most notably the Microsoft groups that
exist on Microsoft's servers. Look at all the posts on it from folks
who are a "guest."

A newsreader (Windows Mail works fine) is the preferred method.

In "Help and Support", search for USENET. You will get only one hit.
It will really be all that you need.

For a really comprehensive list, search for NEWSGROUP.

I found it, should have googled in the first place. Sorry all

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bassfisher6522

"bassfisher6522" <> wrote:

> Is there a difference and if so what is it? I am confused. Needing a
> little light on the subject.

A newsgroup is a repository of messages, or articles, posted on the Usenet
and distributed via NNTP servers worldwide. A web forum is hosted on a www
server, and the postings are stored in some kind of database on that server
only.

For the user, notable differences are:
- Regular newsgroups are usually plain text based, while a web forum have
graphics, gadgets, smileys, formatting, bells and whistles.
- Newsgroups are better accessed with dedicated newsreaders, like Windows
Mail, than through clunky web intefaces posing as forums.
- Reading newsgroups with a newsreader is way faster than working your way
through an equivalent amount of web forums (there is no logging in and out
for instance).
- In order to access newsgroups with a newsreader, you need access to an
NNTP server. Lot's of ISPs offer this service.

Charlie42

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:15:13 -0500, bassfisher6522
<> wrote:

>
>Is there a difference and if so what is it? I am confused. Needing a
>little light on the subject.

Generally nothing major except for how your view and post. Forums are
web based and viewed with a browser. Newsgroups are technically NOT
part of the Internet having their own world wide network of linked
news servers which is called Usenet. Most people since they don't know
any better often lump in Newsgroups as part of the Internet, but
technically that is inaccurate.

Usenet predates the public Internet and was started by some college
kids to exchange text messages. Shortly after it became a popular
means to exchange and view porn and adult material of all kinds. That
is still by far the majority of traffic in newsgroups making up over
90% of the traffic according to most estimates.

Even if you are reading this on some forum, it still is a newsgroup.
It's name is microsoft.public.windows.vista.general. Another
difference is when viewing on a web site (a forum) everybody is
accessing the SAME site that has a single URL to get there. If viewed
as a newsgroup you are looking at a "copy" of the post unless you
happen to be logged on to the SAME news server the original poster
posted to. Otherwise every post gets send around the world and appears
on thousands of different news servers, many controlled by some ISP or
some pay per use premium server.

Posts expire at different rates again depending on what news server
you are accessing. So it is more pot luck how long any post stays on a
news server and also if the provider even decides to carry a
particular group.

A popular myth is Microsoft somehow "controls" posts and posters here.
That is hog wash. Like any other provider they can only control what
is uploaded to or passing through THEIR news server. Since there are
thousands of other news servers none which have anything to do with
Microsoft accept be linked to their news server to exchange posts they
don't have. So you see anybody telling you otherwise you found a fool.

To avoid looking foolish yourself if you post to a forum do not make a
post that say something like bump which implies your post will bubble
to the top of the list if nobody replied to your original post. While
it might work in a forum it won't usually have any impact on people
viewing through a newsgroup. Forums also often lack threading ability
so while one poster in a thread might ask a question or give a answer
whatever he was replying to likely won't get linked as it normally is
(threaded) in a newsgroup again making the person look rather foolish.

Another myth is some clueless posters complain they have wasted time
reading what they didn't want to be bothered with. Again, stupidity on
their part. While in a forum you always see all posts by simply
clicking on them, with a news server it is a two step process. You
first get "new headers" this is just what appears on the subject/tile
line. YOU by clicking on head have decided to download the body of the
linked text.

"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:15:13 -0500, bassfisher6522
> <> wrote:
>
>>
>>Is there a difference and if so what is it? I am confused. Needing a
>>little light on the subject.
>
> Generally nothing major except for how your view and post. Forums are
> web based and viewed with a browser. Newsgroups are technically NOT
> part of the Internet having their own world wide network of linked
> news servers which is called Usenet. Most people since they don't know
> any better often lump in Newsgroups as part of the Internet, but
> technically that is inaccurate.
>

OK - Now Adam is starting to blow his head up with EGO. Stand by.


> Usenet predates the public Internet and was started by some college
> kids to exchange text messages. Shortly after it became a popular
> means to exchange and view porn and adult material of all kinds. That
> is still by far the majority of traffic in newsgroups making up over
> 90% of the traffic according to most estimates.
>

Pump more EGO into Adam's **** crusted head. Watch the power dim on the
street wher Adam is housed.


> Even if you are reading this on some forum, it still is a newsgroup.
> It's name is microsoft.public.windows.vista.general. Another
> difference is when viewing on a web site (a forum) everybody is
> accessing the SAME site that has a single URL to get there. If viewed
> as a newsgroup you are looking at a "copy" of the post unless you
> happen to be logged on to the SAME news server the original poster
> posted to. Otherwise every post gets send around the world and appears
> on thousands of different news servers, many controlled by some ISP or
> some pay per use premium server.
>

More sewage is pumped into Adam's head. the EGO is getting BIGGER and
BIGGER after each letter he types.


> Posts expire at different rates again depending on what news server
> you are accessing. So it is more pot luck how long any post stays on a
> news server and also if the provider even decides to carry a
> particular group.
>

Here comes the major **** that Adam talks about. Look how FULL of himself
he really is. It's pathetic.


> A popular myth is Microsoft somehow "controls" posts and posters here.
> That is hog wash. Like any other provider they can only control what
> is uploaded to or passing through THEIR news server. Since there are
> thousands of other news servers none which have anything to do with
> Microsoft accept be linked to their news server to exchange posts they
> don't have. So you see anybody telling you otherwise you found a fool.
>

More Adam. More bullshit. Keep typing you fool.


> To avoid looking foolish yourself if you post to a forum do not make a
> post that say something like bump which implies your post will bubble
> to the top of the list if nobody replied to your original post. While
> it might work in a forum it won't usually have any impact on people
> viewing through a newsgroup. Forums also often lack threading ability
> so while one poster in a thread might ask a question or give a answer
> whatever he was replying to likely won't get linked as it normally is
> (threaded) in a newsgroup again making the person look rather foolish.
>

Adam's head is about to explode. Clear the neighborhood becuase of the
toxic fumes that may leak from Adam's head. Call Hazmat to clean up the
mess.


> Another myth is some clueless posters complain they have wasted time
> reading what they didn't want to be bothered with. Again, stupidity on
> their part. While in a forum you always see all posts by simply
> clicking on them, with a news server it is a two step process. You
> first get "new headers" this is just what appears on the subject/tile
> line. YOU by clicking on head have decided to download the body of the
> linked text.

Full of bullshit, brought to you by Adam Albright.

"Adam Albright's Psychiatrist" <> wrote in message
news:ADtck.7693$...
>
> "Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:15:13 -0500, bassfisher6522
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Is there a difference and if so what is it? I am confused. Needing a
>>>little light on the subject.
>>
>> Generally nothing major except for how your view and post. Forums are
>> web based and viewed with a browser. Newsgroups are technically NOT
>> part of the Internet having their own world wide network of linked
>> news servers which is called Usenet. Most people since they don't know
>> any better often lump in Newsgroups as part of the Internet, but
>> technically that is inaccurate.
>>
>
> OK - Now Adam is starting to blow his head up with EGO. Stand by.
>
>
>> Usenet predates the public Internet and was started by some college
>> kids to exchange text messages. Shortly after it became a popular
>> means to exchange and view porn and adult material of all kinds. That
>> is still by far the majority of traffic in newsgroups making up over
>> 90% of the traffic according to most estimates.
>>
>
> Pump more EGO into Adam's **** crusted head. Watch the power dim on the
> street wher Adam is housed.
>
>
>> Even if you are reading this on some forum, it still is a newsgroup.
>> It's name is microsoft.public.windows.vista.general. Another
>> difference is when viewing on a web site (a forum) everybody is
>> accessing the SAME site that has a single URL to get there. If viewed
>> as a newsgroup you are looking at a "copy" of the post unless you
>> happen to be logged on to the SAME news server the original poster
>> posted to. Otherwise every post gets send around the world and appears
>> on thousands of different news servers, many controlled by some ISP or
>> some pay per use premium server.
>>
>
> More sewage is pumped into Adam's head. the EGO is getting BIGGER and
> BIGGER after each letter he types.
>
>
>> Posts expire at different rates again depending on what news server
>> you are accessing. So it is more pot luck how long any post stays on a
>> news server and also if the provider even decides to carry a
>> particular group.
>>
>
> Here comes the major **** that Adam talks about. Look how FULL of himself
> he really is. It's pathetic.
>
>
>> A popular myth is Microsoft somehow "controls" posts and posters here.
>> That is hog wash. Like any other provider they can only control what
>> is uploaded to or passing through THEIR news server. Since there are
>> thousands of other news servers none which have anything to do with
>> Microsoft accept be linked to their news server to exchange posts they
>> don't have. So you see anybody telling you otherwise you found a fool.
>>
>
> More Adam. More bullshit. Keep typing you fool.
>
>
>> To avoid looking foolish yourself if you post to a forum do not make a
>> post that say something like bump which implies your post will bubble
>> to the top of the list if nobody replied to your original post. While
>> it might work in a forum it won't usually have any impact on people
>> viewing through a newsgroup. Forums also often lack threading ability
>> so while one poster in a thread might ask a question or give a answer
>> whatever he was replying to likely won't get linked as it normally is
>> (threaded) in a newsgroup again making the person look rather foolish.
>>
>
> Adam's head is about to explode. Clear the neighborhood becuase of the
> toxic fumes that may leak from Adam's head. Call Hazmat to clean up the
> mess.
>
>
>> Another myth is some clueless posters complain they have wasted time
>> reading what they didn't want to be bothered with. Again, stupidity on
>> their part. While in a forum you always see all posts by simply
>> clicking on them, with a news server it is a two step process. You
>> first get "new headers" this is just what appears on the subject/tile
>> line. YOU by clicking on head have decided to download the body of the
>> linked text.
>
> Full of bullshit, brought to you by Adam Albright.
>
>
>
>

Come on , now.
That was actually a good post by Albright.

He actually explained it quite well.