Frozen message in Drafts box

With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
All I could do was highlight the type.
Any ideas as to what might have caused this
and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.

In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the Drafts box
the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the draft
only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
but not the actual emoticons.

How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
I originally selected ?
donwb

You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click the
message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it reopens
in a message composition window. From there, the message is in the same
status as when you saved it to the drafts.

If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or
sent items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a
message.

--

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"donwb" <> wrote in message
news:...
> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
> All I could do was highlight the type.
> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>
> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the
> Drafts box
> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the
> draft
> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
> but not the actual emoticons.
>
> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
> I originally selected ?
> donwb
>
>
>
>

If you send that draft with the smileys to yourself, do they display
correctly? Hyperlinks don't appear as "clickable" either until you send the
mail. They are then active in the received email. Thought this might be
the same case with your smileys.


"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click the
> message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it reopens
> in a message composition window. From there, the message is in the same
> status as when you saved it to the drafts.
>
> If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or sent
> items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a message.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "donwb" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
>> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
>> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
>> All I could do was highlight the type.
>> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
>> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>>
>> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the Drafts
>> box
>> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the draft
>> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
>> but not the actual emoticons.
>>
>> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
>> I originally selected ?
>> donwb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Thanks Michael for the response.
Yes, I did double click on the message to bring up the composition window,
but still it was froze.
I take your point about not being able to edit a message in drafts
which has been moved from from say the Inbox, but
what about a message in the Inbox on which I click Reply,
type a response, then Save to the Drafts box?
Would you expect this to be editable in the composition window on a revisit?
donwb



"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click the
> message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it reopens
> in a message composition window. From there, the message is in the same
> status as when you saved it to the drafts.
>
> If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or sent
> items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a message.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "donwb" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
>> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
>> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
>> All I could do was highlight the type.
>> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
>> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>>
>> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the Drafts
>> box
>> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the draft
>> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
>> but not the actual emoticons.
>>
>> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
>> I originally selected ?
>> donwb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Hi slk759
Yes they do display OK.
It's when I save a message with Smileys to the Drafts box
that they only appear there as placeholders.
These placeholders are selectable and resizeable and
contain a description or identification of the original Smiley,
but not the Smiley itself. There must be a way to replace the
placeholder and reinstate the Smiley proper,
but the only way I've found to do it is re-enter the Smiley anew,
then delete the placeholder.
donwb

"slk759" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> If you send that draft with the smileys to yourself, do they display
> correctly? Hyperlinks don't appear as "clickable" either until you send
> the mail. They are then active in the received email. Thought this might
> be the same case with your smileys.
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click the
>> message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it reopens
>> in a message composition window. From there, the message is in the same
>> status as when you saved it to the drafts.
>>
>> If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or
>> sent items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a
>> message.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>
>>
>>
>> "donwb" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
>>> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
>>> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
>>> All I could do was highlight the type.
>>> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
>>> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>>>
>>> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the Drafts
>>> box
>>> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the draft
>>> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
>>> but not the actual emoticons.
>>>
>>> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
>>> I originally selected ?
>>> donwb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

If you just leave "the placeholder" in the Draft, and then send that draft
to yourself, are the smileys there - or do you still see the placeholder
data? Mine are there as actual smileys, in drafts and sent. If they send
as smileys (not placeholders) I wouldn't worry about it . . . . .


"donwb" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Hi slk759
> Yes they do display OK.
> It's when I save a message with Smileys to the Drafts box
> that they only appear there as placeholders.
> These placeholders are selectable and resizeable and
> contain a description or identification of the original Smiley,
> but not the Smiley itself. There must be a way to replace the
> placeholder and reinstate the Smiley proper,
> but the only way I've found to do it is re-enter the Smiley anew,
> then delete the placeholder.
> donwb
>
> "slk759" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> If you send that draft with the smileys to yourself, do they display
>> correctly? Hyperlinks don't appear as "clickable" either until you send
>> the mail. They are then active in the received email. Thought this
>> might be the same case with your smileys.
>>
>>
>> "Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click the
>>> message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it reopens
>>> in a message composition window. From there, the message is in the same
>>> status as when you saved it to the drafts.
>>>
>>> If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or
>>> sent items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a
>>> message.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "donwb" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
>>>> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
>>>> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
>>>> All I could do was highlight the type.
>>>> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
>>>> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the
>>>> Drafts box
>>>> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the draft
>>>> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
>>>> but not the actual emoticons.
>>>>
>>>> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
>>>> I originally selected ?
>>>> donwb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

Saving a reply in progress is fine. Some people have tried copying a
sent message to the Drafts expecting to be able to then edit it. I
wanted to make sure that wasn't the case for you.

The normal procedure is to start a new message or reply or forward, then
while in the message composition window to do a File, Save (not Save AS
which goes to an EML file) or to close the message and reply Yes when
asked if you want to save it. From there you double click the message
in the drafts folder and it should reopen in a message composition
windows from where you can further edit it if desired and either save it
again or send it.

--

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"donwb" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Thanks Michael for the response.
> Yes, I did double click on the message to bring up the composition
> window,
> but still it was froze.
> I take your point about not being able to edit a message in drafts
> which has been moved from from say the Inbox, but
> what about a message in the Inbox on which I click Reply,
> type a response, then Save to the Drafts box?
> Would you expect this to be editable in the composition window on a
> revisit?
> donwb
>
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click
>> the message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it
>> reopens in a message composition window. From there, the message is
>> in the same status as when you saved it to the drafts.
>>
>> If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or
>> sent items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a
>> message.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>
>>
>>
>> "donwb" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
>>> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
>>> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
>>> All I could do was highlight the type.
>>> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
>>> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>>>
>>> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the
>>> Drafts box
>>> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the
>>> draft
>>> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
>>> but not the actual emoticons.
>>>
>>> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the
>>> emoticons
>>> I originally selected ?
>>> donwb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi slk759
Yes, Smileys appear, not placeholders, so I suppose all's well.
Thanks for your help.
donwb


"slk759" <> wrote in message
news:...
> If you just leave "the placeholder" in the Draft, and then send that draft
> to yourself, are the smileys there - or do you still see the placeholder
> data? Mine are there as actual smileys, in drafts and sent. If they send
> as smileys (not placeholders) I wouldn't worry about it . . . . .
>
>
> "donwb" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Hi slk759
>> Yes they do display OK.
>> It's when I save a message with Smileys to the Drafts box
>> that they only appear there as placeholders.
>> These placeholders are selectable and resizeable and
>> contain a description or identification of the original Smiley,
>> but not the Smiley itself. There must be a way to replace the
>> placeholder and reinstate the Smiley proper,
>> but the only way I've found to do it is re-enter the Smiley anew,
>> then delete the placeholder.
>> donwb
>>
>> "slk759" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> If you send that draft with the smileys to yourself, do they display
>>> correctly? Hyperlinks don't appear as "clickable" either until you send
>>> the mail. They are then active in the received email. Thought this
>>> might be the same case with your smileys.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click the
>>>> message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it
>>>> reopens in a message composition window. From there, the message is in
>>>> the same status as when you saved it to the drafts.
>>>>
>>>> If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or
>>>> sent items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a
>>>> message.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "donwb" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
>>>>> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
>>>>> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
>>>>> All I could do was highlight the type.
>>>>> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
>>>>> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the
>>>>> Drafts box
>>>>> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the
>>>>> draft
>>>>> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
>>>>> but not the actual emoticons.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
>>>>> I originally selected ?
>>>>> donwb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>

Hi Michael
Yes that does work ok.
Thanks for the input.
donwb


"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
news:ON%...
> Saving a reply in progress is fine. Some people have tried copying a sent
> message to the Drafts expecting to be able to then edit it. I wanted to
> make sure that wasn't the case for you.
>
> The normal procedure is to start a new message or reply or forward, then
> while in the message composition window to do a File, Save (not Save AS
> which goes to an EML file) or to close the message and reply Yes when
> asked if you want to save it. From there you double click the message in
> the drafts folder and it should reopen in a message composition windows
> from where you can further edit it if desired and either save it again or
> send it.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "donwb" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Thanks Michael for the response.
>> Yes, I did double click on the message to bring up the composition
>> window,
>> but still it was froze.
>> I take your point about not being able to edit a message in drafts
>> which has been moved from from say the Inbox, but
>> what about a message in the Inbox on which I click Reply,
>> type a response, then Save to the Drafts box?
>> Would you expect this to be editable in the composition window on a
>> revisit?
>> donwb
>>
>>
>>
>> "Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> You can't edit a draft in the Reading pane. You must double click the
>>> message in the list of messages for the drafts folder so that it reopens
>>> in a message composition window. From there, the message is in the same
>>> status as when you saved it to the drafts.
>>>
>>> If by chance you moved a message from another folder such as inbox or
>>> sent items into the drafts folder, that doesn't let you edit such a
>>> message.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "donwb" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> With WLM on Windows 7, I have had 2 instances of a message
>>>> in the Drafts box appearing to be frozen.
>>>> I could not set the cursor into the existing type to edit.
>>>> All I could do was highlight the type.
>>>> Any ideas as to what might have caused this
>>>> and how to get out of the situation would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> In a related question, I have often gone back to a message in the
>>>> Drafts box
>>>> the original of which contained emoticons (smileys) and found the draft
>>>> only contained placeholders (albeit with full description),
>>>> but not the actual emoticons.
>>>>
>>>> How do I recover from this, without having to reinstall the emoticons
>>>> I originally selected ?
>>>> donwb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>