How to get permission to change my own "start" menu?

What I really hate about Vista's security obsessed behavior, is that this
often strikes and hinders at the most innocent and unexpected areas: E.g.
after having installed a couple of applications I found that there were now
simply too many entries in the start menu (requiring too much scrolling and
searching) and so I wanted to restructure the menu by collecting certain
items into submenus. While I was able do create the menus this stupid OS
doesn't allow me to move certain entries into these. Which moron came up
with that brilliant idea that a user should not be allowed to modify his own
start menu??? Even if he is a member of group "Administrators"!?!

How can I take full control of my start menu?

Michael

It must be HOW you are doing it. I am continually modifying my start menu.
Have been since Windows 95.

Instead of bad mouthing MS - why don't to try to ask a coherent question?
Give exact examples of what you are trying to do (folder you created and
what you are trying to move into it).

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Michael Moser" <michael-> wrote in message
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> What I really hate about Vista's security obsessed behavior, is that this
> often strikes and hinders at the most innocent and unexpected areas: E.g.
> after having installed a couple of applications I found that there were
> now simply too many entries in the start menu (requiring too much
> scrolling and searching) and so I wanted to restructure the menu by
> collecting certain items into submenus. While I was able do create the
> menus this stupid OS doesn't allow me to move certain entries into these.
> Which moron came up with that brilliant idea that a user should not be
> allowed to modify his own start menu??? Even if he is a member of group
> "Administrators"!?!
>
> How can I take full control of my start menu?
>
> Michael

Richard Urban wrote:
> It must be HOW you are doing it. I am continually modifying my start
> menu. Have been since Windows 95.
>
> Instead of bad mouthing MS - why don't to try to ask a coherent
> question? Give exact examples of what you are trying to do (folder
> you created and what you are trying to move into it).

Having to occasionally retrain and learn new tricks is part of Microsoft's
initiative to keep its customers healthy and mentally agile and prevents
them from becoming old, inflexible dogs. The user simply has to understand,
that he can not anymore simply drag an item onto a folder to move that item
into the folder (this gesture was supported since Windows95 and has been
deemed boring and old-fashioned and was thus disabled). Instead MS now
supports an operation where the user opens the target folder, too, and then
moves the item *into* that open folder to achieve the desired result.
Simple, effective and so modern!

Michael

"Michael Moser" <michael-> wrote in message
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> Richard Urban wrote:
>> It must be HOW you are doing it. I am continually modifying my start
>> menu. Have been since Windows 95.
>>
>> Instead of bad mouthing MS - why don't to try to ask a coherent
>> question? Give exact examples of what you are trying to do (folder
>> you created and what you are trying to move into it).

Vista sucks kosher mouse-doodles. Butt it is big, complicated and
(sometimes) fun to explore, trouble-shoot. bang/bang!


> Having to occasionally retrain and learn new tricks is part of Microsoft's
> initiative to keep its customers healthy and mentally agile and prevents
> them from becoming old, inflexible dogs.

I will take this as a tongue-in-cheek comment. There is truth in this
statement, never-the-less.

> The user simply has to understand, that he can not anymore simply drag an
> item onto a folder to move that item into the folder (this gesture was
> supported since Windows95 and has been deemed boring and old-fashioned and
> was thus disabled).

I am glad to know this revelation, something I was unaware of until your bit
of pain and suffering. This is good to know.

> Instead MS now supports an operation where the user opens the target
> folder, too, and then moves the item *into* that open folder to achieve
> the desired result. Simple, effective and so modern!
>
> Michael


Today my Control Panel stopped working. All I got was an empty window, an
hour-glass delay and then {poof}... nothing.
(I searched Google for secret hand-shake ...)

From Google and my own testing, I further discovered :
1. I could not access Personalize Windows (this from right-clicking
desktop)
2. I could not access Device Manager from keyboard shortcut (Win-Key +
Pause/Break key)
3. I got nothing from Right-clicking "My Computer" Properties
4. Windows Update was inaccessible

Did I mention that Vista SUCKS KOSHER MOUSE-doodles?

The fix for my system [Vista ultimate SP-1] was:

open services panel and find following two entries :
SL UI Notification Service
Software Licensing Service

... start services -- no re-boot necessary; Vista recovered from sucking
kosher mouse-doodles.

I will bad_mouth MS as I see (hissy) fit

up, up and away
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