how to get SP1

So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?
Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation
from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Dick Hurtz" wrote:

So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?
Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?

Strange - My machine updated it all last night from Windows update and the
device screen shows SP1 as installed!!!!!

Have I done something wrong?



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:#TCYs#...
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation
> from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Dick Hurtz" wrote:
>
> So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?
> Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?
>

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation
> from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343
>

It was offered to me yesterday, 3/18, via automatic updates, immediately
following a definition update for Windows Defender. Total size of the
download, for my own system, was around 65 megabytes.

I believe I did read, some weeks back, that Windows Update would first
scan your system and not offer the service pack at this point in time,
if it's determined that something is on your system that might be
incompatible with the service pack.

It appeared in my Windows Update this afternoon, and I downloaded and
installed it. Jef

"Dick Hurtz" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?
> Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?

Cause 1

You are already running Windows Vista SP1.

Nope.

Cause 2

Windows Vista SP1 has not been released for the language of the language
pack that you have installed.

Nope. American English here.

Cause 3

Windows Service Pack Blocker Tool is used to block the delivery of Windows
Vista SP1 from Automatic Updates or from Windows Update.

Don't know what that is, but every other Windows Update installs just fine.

Cause 4

You tried to install Windows Vista SP1, and the installation failed with a
known inconsistency in the file or registry structure.

Nope.

Cause 5

A hardware device driver or device software was problematic when you updated
to Windows Vista SP1.

The Windows Update service can detect the small set of device drivers and
software that falls into this category. The Windows Update service will not
offer Windows Vista SP1 until an update for the hardware device driver or
the device software has been installed.

Vista Business 64 bit. Have no idea what driver or device might be
problematic. It would be nice if they told you! I have no problems with my
system and everything runs fine.

Cause 6

You have installed a prerelease version of Windows Vista SP1, and you must
uninstall the prerelease version, or start with a new installation of
Windows Vista.

Nope.

Cause 7

You used the third-party program vLite to configure the system, and you may
have removed required system components that have to be available for
Windows Vista SP1 to be installed.

Nope.

Cause 8

You see one or more updates for Windows Vista when you run Windows Update.
However, you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed.

Nope.

So why cant I get SP1?



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:#TCYs#...
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation
> from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Dick Hurtz" wrote:
>
> So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?
> Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?
>

"Crispy500" <> wrote in message
news:uzu$...
> Strange - My machine updated it all last night from Windows update and the
> device screen shows SP1 as installed!!!!!
>
> Have I done something wrong?

Not at all SP1 is on Windows Update, except on people's machines which have
one of the black listed drivers or other reasons that Carey pointed to.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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"Dick Hurtz" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?

That's not entirely correct. It was available to me and many others on
Windows Update yesterday.

> Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?

First, it's not 700 meg. The full SP file is about -- let's see, I
downloaded it and installed from it, as I find that more reliable than WU --
445 meg. I would suggest downloading it and burning it to CD, and storing
it with your Vista install media.

This took me 15 minutes to download. I don't know how much more time WU
would have taken to download and then install. I've generally found this
tactic saves time in the long run, and if the install fails for any reason,
you don't have to re-download.

Second, it *is* in Windows Update *right now*. But if your system has a
driver that is known to require updating, it won't appear in Windows Update.
If you identify and update the driver(s), it will rapidly appear in Windows
Update.

A number of the problematic drivers are actually identified in the document
you quoted in another post,
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343

I know this because I used that list in that document to update the video
driver on this system that was on that list. Updating it not only brought
SP1 to WU, but it apparently fixed its one blue-screen problem on this
system.

HTH
-pk

"Dick Hurtz" <> wrote in message
news:. ..

> Cause 5
>
> A hardware device driver or device software was problematic when you
> updated to Windows Vista SP1.
>
> The Windows Update service can detect the small set of device drivers and
> software that falls into this category. The Windows Update service will
> not offer Windows Vista SP1 until an update for the hardware device driver
> or the device software has been installed.
>
> Vista Business 64 bit. Have no idea what driver or device might be
> problematic. It would be nice if they told you! I have no problems with my
> system and everything runs fine.
>

The problem drivers are listed in the link Carey provided.

--
Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

"Dick Hurtz" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> Cause 1
>
> You are already running Windows Vista SP1.
>
> Nope.
>
> Cause 2
>
> Windows Vista SP1 has not been released for the language of the language
> pack that you have installed.
>
> Nope. American English here.
>
> Cause 3
>
> Windows Service Pack Blocker Tool is used to block the delivery of Windows
> Vista SP1 from Automatic Updates or from Windows Update.
>
> Don't know what that is, but every other Windows Update installs just
> fine.
>
> Cause 4
>
> You tried to install Windows Vista SP1, and the installation failed with a
> known inconsistency in the file or registry structure.
>
> Nope.
>
> Cause 5
>
> A hardware device driver or device software was problematic when you
> updated to Windows Vista SP1.
>
> The Windows Update service can detect the small set of device drivers and
> software that falls into this category. The Windows Update service will
> not offer Windows Vista SP1 until an update for the hardware device driver
> or the device software has been installed.
>
> Vista Business 64 bit. Have no idea what driver or device might be
> problematic. It would be nice if they told you! I have no problems with my
> system and everything runs fine.

Actually, they *do* tell you. It's further down in the document you've
quoted from.


>
> Cause 6
>
> You have installed a prerelease version of Windows Vista SP1, and you must
> uninstall the prerelease version, or start with a new installation of
> Windows Vista.
>
> Nope.
>
> Cause 7
>
> You used the third-party program vLite to configure the system, and you
> may have removed required system components that have to be available for
> Windows Vista SP1 to be installed.
>
> Nope.
>
> Cause 8
>
> You see one or more updates for Windows Vista when you run Windows Update.
> However, you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed.
>
> Nope.
>
> So why cant I get SP1?

Probably cause 5. Scroll further down in the document you've clipped this
from, then use a search tool to check for the drivers they list; when you
find them, right-click and choose Properties for the version.

HTH
-pk


>
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:#TCYs#...
>> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation
>> from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Dick Hurtz" wrote:
>>
>> So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?
>> Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?
>>