I guess they do know about the 235 MS patents they're violating...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1

Frank

Frank wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>
> Frank

Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly doesn't
name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals how
scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source almost
as much as it hates its own paying customers.

Alias

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>
>> Frank
>
>
> Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly doesn't
> name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals how
> scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source almost
> as much as it hates its own paying customers.
>
> Alias

That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and
that they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
presumably lawyers to lawyers. You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
knows exactly which patents are in question.
Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
paying customers". Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't
know that, huh?
You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
Frank

I'm surprised he just didn't say, "Why not install Ubuntu" !


"Frank" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>>
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly doesn't
>> name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals how
>> scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source almost as
>> much as it hates its own paying customers.
>>
>> Alias
>
> That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
> are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and that
> they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
> presumably lawyers to lawyers. You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
> knows exactly which patents are in question.
> Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
> Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
> your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
> paying customers". Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
> royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't know
> that, huh?
> You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
> Frank

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> I'm surprised he just didn't say, "Why not install Ubuntu" !
>
>
> "Frank" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>
>>Alias wrote:
>>
>>>Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>>>
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly doesn't
>>>name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals how
>>>scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source almost as
>>>much as it hates its own paying customers.
>>>
>>>Alias
>>
>>That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
>>are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and that
>>they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
>>presumably lawyers to lawyers. You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
>>knows exactly which patents are in question.
>>Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
>>Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
>>your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
>>paying customers". Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
>>royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't know
>>that, huh?
>>You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
>>Frank
>
>
>
:-D
Frank

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>>
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly
>> doesn't name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only
>> reveals how scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open
>> Source almost as much as it hates its own paying customers.
>>
>> Alias
>
> That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
> are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and
> that they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
> presumably lawyers to lawyers.

You are ASSuming they know.

> You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
> knows exactly which patents are in question.

You are ASSuming they know. I don't use pesos, btw, in Europe we have
the euro. You know, the one where you get almost $1.40 for each euro?

> Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
> Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
> your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
> paying customers".

Stupid on the part of Microsoft. Right on, on my part.

> Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
> royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't
> know that, huh?

Of course I knew that some lame Linux companies that are on the verge of
bankruptcy accepted Microsoft's protection racket.

> You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
> Frank

NO, YOU do.

No mention of which patents.

Red Hat has NOT signed a deal.

From the article:

"The Free Software Foundation, which authored the General Public License
and owns rights to much of the code at the heart of Red Hat Enterprise
Linux, inserted that clause into the agreement in an effort to
discourage other open-source software developers from signing patent
deals with Microsoft.

The authors of that license have said they believe that such patent
deals will help Microsoft back claims that its intellectual property is
being violated by code in Linux and other open source software,
eventually giving the company ammunition to seek billions of dollars in
license fees from users of open-source software."

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> I'm surprised he just didn't say, "Why not install Ubuntu" !

I'm *not* surprised that you posted this.

Alias
>
>
> "Frank" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly doesn't
>>> name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals how
>>> scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source almost as
>>> much as it hates its own paying customers.
>>>
>>> Alias
>> That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
>> are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and that
>> they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
>> presumably lawyers to lawyers. You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
>> knows exactly which patents are in question.
>> Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
>> Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
>> your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
>> paying customers". Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
>> royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't know
>> that, huh?
>> You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
>> Frank
>
>

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:14:52 -0700, Frank <> wrote:

>Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>>
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly doesn't
>> name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals how
>> scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source almost
>> as much as it hates its own paying customers.
>>
>> Alias
>
>That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
>are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and
>that they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
>presumably lawyers to lawyers. You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
>knows exactly which patents are in question.
>Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
>Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
>your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
>paying customers". Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
>royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't
>know that, huh?
>You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
>Frank

Frank, you need to pull real hard and try to get your head out of
Microsoft's corporate butt. You need some fresh air boy. I mean I've
seen all kinds of kiss ups to Microsoft, but you've managed to firmly
shove your head so far up their butt I'm betting you haven't seen
daylight in years.

Because it's your best solution to any problem?


"Alias" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> I'm surprised he just didn't say, "Why not install Ubuntu" !
>
> I'm *not* surprised that you posted this.
>
> Alias
>>
>>
>> "Frank" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>> Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly
>>>> doesn't name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals
>>>> how scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source
>>>> almost as much as it hates its own paying customers.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
>>> are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and
>>> that they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
>>> presumably lawyers to lawyers. You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
>>> knows exactly which patents are in question.
>>> Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
>>> Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
>>> your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
>>> paying customers". Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
>>> royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't
>>> know that, huh?
>>> You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
>>> Frank
>>

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> Because it's your best solution to any problem?

Au contraire! I just built a ninja machine with XP for gaming.

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>> I'm surprised he just didn't say, "Why not install Ubuntu" !
>> I'm *not* surprised that you posted this.
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>> "Frank" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/...microsoft_dc_1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>> Name one patent. Just one. The article you linked most certainly
>>>>> doesn't name one. The patent trip on the part of Microsoft only reveals
>>>>> how scared Microsoft is of Open Source. Microsoft hates Open Source
>>>>> almost as much as it hates its own paying customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>> That's not the point bozo. I'm sure Red Hat knows exactly which patents
>>>> are in dispute seeing as how the article refers to them by number and
>>>> that they've had private discussions for over a year concerning them,
>>>> presumably lawyers to lawyers. You can bet your last peso that Red Hat
>>>> knows exactly which patents are in question.
>>>> Your ignorant assumption that..."Microsoft only reveals how scared
>>>> Microsoft is of Open Source', is simply down right stupid as is
>>>> your..."Microsoft hates Open Source almost as much as it hates its own
>>>> paying customers". Especially considering the fact that MS has a patent
>>>> royalty deal with Novell and other linux distros. I guess you didn't
>>>> know that, huh?
>>>> You need to re-read the article cause your comprehension is way off.
>>>> Frank
>