Half Life 2 - Windows Vista Patches

On Steam's Tech Support list they suggest installing 3 patches to avoid
in-game chrases:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105

I have downloaded all 3 but only the first will install, each of the other
two generate a message (translated from Danish) "The update is not relevant
for your system" this regardless if I install it in the 32 or 64 B version.
Needless to say I have used Windows Vista auto update and installed
everything. Any kind of support would be appreciated, perhaps Valve/Steam
developers should work closer with Windows to improve this?

Thank you all!
--
VeryOldGoat - Denmark

On the download window you have to change to Danish language. Have you done
that?



"VeryOldGoat" <> skrev i meddelelsen
news:25960466-6E01-4EF6-9899-...
> On Steam's Tech Support list they suggest installing 3 patches to avoid
> in-game chrases:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
>
> I have downloaded all 3 but only the first will install, each of the other
> two generate a message (translated from Danish) "The update is not
> relevant
> for your system" this regardless if I install it in the 32 or 64 B
> version.
> Needless to say I have used Windows Vista auto update and installed
> everything. Any kind of support would be appreciated, perhaps Valve/Steam
> developers should work closer with Windows to improve this?
>
> Thank you all!
> --
> VeryOldGoat - Denmark

"VeryOldGoat" wrote:

> On Steam's Tech Support list they suggest installing 3 patches to avoid
> in-game chrases:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
>
> I have downloaded all 3 but only the first will install, each of the other
> two generate a message (translated from Danish) "The update is not relevant
> for your system" this regardless if I install it in the 32 or 64 B version.

the first 2 patches have been released on Windows Update at the end of
August and so your system should already have them

VeryOldGoat wrote:
> On Steam's Tech Support list they suggest installing 3 patches to avoid
> in-game chrases:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
>
> I have downloaded all 3 but only the first will install, each of the other
> two generate a message (translated from Danish) "The update is not relevant
> for your system" this regardless if I install it in the 32 or 64 B version.
> Needless to say I have used Windows Vista auto update and installed
> everything. Any kind of support would be appreciated, perhaps Valve/Steam
> developers should work closer with Windows to improve this?
>
> Thank you all!


Steam tech support is trying to assist their customers by pointing to
patches that may help. These are all Microsoft patches, which means that
Microsoft recognize tha some problems are with THEIR software. Why on
earth do you think the Steam developers should break their working code
to make it fit Microsoft's broken code?

If MS are telling you that a patch is not appropriate for your system
why are you determined to install it anyway? You seem to have the idea
that Steam should work around MS defects because MS must always be
right, and yet are also arguing that MS are wrong about their own OS by
not letting you install patches that don't match it.

If you are experiencing in game crashes the first place to look are the
drivers for your video card.

Assuming it's an NVidia card Steam will direct you to the NVidia
website, and Microsoft update will probably offer drivers too. Both of
these are a bad idea for one simple reason. You should always uninstall
old versions of video drivers before installing new ones. Sometimes you
can get by with just installing but often you cannot.

Same applies to any other model card you may have, the installer cannot
work on files you are actually using.

So, restart the machine with nothing extra running. Find the Video
drivers (Just video, nothing else) in add/remove programs area and
uninstall them. When you reboot the screen will likely be messed up so
put you recently downloaded new driver package on the desktop where it
is easy to find.

Run the package, it will ask to reboot when it is done. Allow the reboot
and reset your display as you prefer it.

If you recently did this with new drivers but did not uninstall old ones
first this is very likely your problem.

Thank you no not yet, will try to see if this helps, great idea...
--
VeryOldGoat - Denmark


"Gudmund Liebach Nielsen" wrote:

> On the download window you have to change to Danish language. Have you done
> that?
>
>
>
> "VeryOldGoat" <> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:25960466-6E01-4EF6-9899-...
> > On Steam's Tech Support list they suggest installing 3 patches to avoid
> > in-game chrases:
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
> >
> > I have downloaded all 3 but only the first will install, each of the other
> > two generate a message (translated from Danish) "The update is not
> > relevant
> > for your system" this regardless if I install it in the 32 or 64 B
> > version.
> > Needless to say I have used Windows Vista auto update and installed
> > everything. Any kind of support would be appreciated, perhaps Valve/Steam
> > developers should work closer with Windows to improve this?
> >
> > Thank you all!
> > --
> > VeryOldGoat - Denmark
>

Well, should work is not really where I am now....but thank you anyway
--
VeryOldGoat - Denmark


"BillD" wrote:

>
>
> "VeryOldGoat" wrote:
>
> > On Steam's Tech Support list they suggest installing 3 patches to avoid
> > in-game chrases:
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
> >
> > I have downloaded all 3 but only the first will install, each of the other
> > two generate a message (translated from Danish) "The update is not relevant
> > for your system" this regardless if I install it in the 32 or 64 B version.
>
> the first 2 patches have been released on Windows Update at the end of
> August and so your system should already have them

--
VeryOldGoat - Denmark


"Charlie Tame" wrote:

Charlie, I assume that Valve/Steam would like their software to run with MS
as they do have most of the OS market cornered. I do not know whom to blame,
but both are large players in their respective fields, so the resources
should be there. I have updated my drivers (ATI, yes I know I know) and will
only un and re-install as a last resort. Thank you anyway!!!>

Martin
>
> Steam tech support is trying to assist their customers by pointing to
> patches that may help. These are all Microsoft patches, which means that
> Microsoft recognize tha some problems are with THEIR software. Why on
> earth do you think the Steam developers should break their working code
> to make it fit Microsoft's broken code?
>
> If MS are telling you that a patch is not appropriate for your system
> why are you determined to install it anyway? You seem to have the idea
> that Steam should work around MS defects because MS must always be
> right, and yet are also arguing that MS are wrong about their own OS by
> not letting you install patches that don't match it.
>
> If you are experiencing in game crashes the first place to look are the
> drivers for your video card.
>
> Assuming it's an NVidia card Steam will direct you to the NVidia
> website, and Microsoft update will probably offer drivers too. Both of
> these are a bad idea for one simple reason. You should always uninstall
> old versions of video drivers before installing new ones. Sometimes you
> can get by with just installing but often you cannot.
>
> Same applies to any other model card you may have, the installer cannot
> work on files you are actually using.
>
> So, restart the machine with nothing extra running. Find the Video
> drivers (Just video, nothing else) in add/remove programs area and
> uninstall them. When you reboot the screen will likely be messed up so
> put you recently downloaded new driver package on the desktop where it
> is easy to find.
>
> Run the package, it will ask to reboot when it is done. Allow the reboot
> and reset your display as you prefer it.
>
> If you recently did this with new drivers but did not uninstall old ones
> first this is very likely your problem.
>

Gudmund tried your trick of changing the download file message, same results.
Have resigned to add more RAM to the motherboard, sigh. Thank you again for
trying. VeryOldGoat
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VeryOldGoat - Denmark


"Gudmund Liebach Nielsen" wrote:

> On the download window you have to change to Danish language. Have you done
> that?
>
>
>
> "VeryOldGoat" <> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:25960466-6E01-4EF6-9899-...
> > On Steam's Tech Support list they suggest installing 3 patches to avoid
> > in-game chrases:
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
> >
> > I have downloaded all 3 but only the first will install, each of the other
> > two generate a message (translated from Danish) "The update is not
> > relevant
> > for your system" this regardless if I install it in the 32 or 64 B
> > version.
> > Needless to say I have used Windows Vista auto update and installed
> > everything. Any kind of support would be appreciated, perhaps Valve/Steam
> > developers should work closer with Windows to improve this?
> >
> > Thank you all!
> > --
> > VeryOldGoat - Denmark
>