Hardware upgrades and EULA

Hi everyone, I'm having trouble finding a solid answer on this. I have Vista
Ultimate, retail installed. If I decide to upgrade my cpu to a 64 bit
processor, which will require a MoBo upgrade, will I be able to install the
64 bit version that came with my copy of Vista Ultimate? Or will the
validation tool see it as a completely different system and refuse
activation? I would still be using one copy on one machine, I'm just foggy
on what the EULA allows.

If it is vista retail you can install it on as many different computers or
hardware you want... no problem at all..

even if it does not activate via internet, activate it via telephone. No
problem at all.

if it is OEM then it depends on the manufacturer of the pc if it considers
the mobo the PC or not.

there is a big disagreement on what the truth is about this..

some MVP's claim the MOBO is now considered the "computer" others claim that
it is not...

I have argued with both sides and they are all crazy.. and stupid of course.



"w2044617" <> wrote in message
news:5C8F1DC4-EE9C-4CC4-9B45-...
> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble finding a solid answer on this. I have
> Vista
> Ultimate, retail installed. If I decide to upgrade my cpu to a 64 bit
> processor, which will require a MoBo upgrade, will I be able to install
> the
> 64 bit version that came with my copy of Vista Ultimate? Or will the
> validation tool see it as a completely different system and refuse
> activation? I would still be using one copy on one machine, I'm just
> foggy
> on what the EULA allows.

The Windows license is tied to the System Board if it is an OEM license that
came with the machine. If it you purchase a full retail license for Vista
you can put it whatever machine you license. Upgrade licenses are tied to a
original full package version of the product. For instance, if you buy
Office 2007 Upgrade, you must have full version of Office 2000, Office XP or
2003 to qualify for the product. Although the software does not see this and
you could normally use an upgrade version of 2000, XP or 2003 to qualify the
upgrade during installation.

As for the OP, format the existing installation of Vista, then install Vista
x64 and activate over the Internet or by telelphone.

See tutorial:
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/84...sta-phone.html
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
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"teyebeareeus" <> wrote in message
news:...
> If it is vista retail you can install it on as many different computers or
> hardware you want... no problem at all..
>
> even if it does not activate via internet, activate it via telephone. No
> problem at all.
>
> if it is OEM then it depends on the manufacturer of the pc if it considers
> the mobo the PC or not.
>
> there is a big disagreement on what the truth is about this..
>
> some MVP's claim the MOBO is now considered the "computer" others claim
> that it is not...
>
> I have argued with both sides and they are all crazy.. and stupid of
> course.
>
>
>
> "w2044617" <> wrote in message
> news:5C8F1DC4-EE9C-4CC4-9B45-...
>> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble finding a solid answer on this. I have
>> Vista
>> Ultimate, retail installed. If I decide to upgrade my cpu to a 64 bit
>> processor, which will require a MoBo upgrade, will I be able to install
>> the
>> 64 bit version that came with my copy of Vista Ultimate? Or will the
>> validation tool see it as a completely different system and refuse
>> activation? I would still be using one copy on one machine, I'm just
>> foggy
>> on what the EULA allows.
>
>

>The Windows license is tied to the System Board if it is >an OEM license
>that came with the machine


there are MVP's that strongly disagree with you.. lol

Yet some other MVPs tried to persuade me too that what you are saying is
true...

they are just a bunch of uninformed MS employee wannabies




"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
news:unHAl1$...
> The Windows license is tied to the System Board if it is an OEM license
> that came with the machine. If it you purchase a full retail license for
> Vista you can put it whatever machine you license. Upgrade licenses are
> tied to a original full package version of the product. For instance, if
> you buy Office 2007 Upgrade, you must have full version of Office 2000,
> Office XP or 2003 to qualify for the product. Although the software does
> not see this and you could normally use an upgrade version of 2000, XP or
> 2003 to qualify the upgrade during installation.
>
> As for the OP, format the existing installation of Vista, then install
> Vista x64 and activate over the Internet or by telelphone.
>
> See tutorial:
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/84...sta-phone.html
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>
> "teyebeareeus" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> If it is vista retail you can install it on as many different computers
>> or hardware you want... no problem at all..
>>
>> even if it does not activate via internet, activate it via telephone. No
>> problem at all.
>>
>> if it is OEM then it depends on the manufacturer of the pc if it
>> considers the mobo the PC or not.
>>
>> there is a big disagreement on what the truth is about this..
>>
>> some MVP's claim the MOBO is now considered the "computer" others claim
>> that it is not...
>>
>> I have argued with both sides and they are all crazy.. and stupid of
>> course.
>>
>>
>>
>> "w2044617" <> wrote in message
>> news:5C8F1DC4-EE9C-4CC4-9B45-...
>>> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble finding a solid answer on this. I have
>>> Vista
>>> Ultimate, retail installed. If I decide to upgrade my cpu to a 64 bit
>>> processor, which will require a MoBo upgrade, will I be able to install
>>> the
>>> 64 bit version that came with my copy of Vista Ultimate? Or will the
>>> validation tool see it as a completely different system and refuse
>>> activation? I would still be using one copy on one machine, I'm just
>>> foggy
>>> on what the EULA allows.
>>
>>
>
>

teyebeareeus wrote:


>
> ...they are just a bunch of uninformed MS employee wannabies


So is that what the fly in the ointment is with you capin' crunch?
MS wouldn't hire you?
Sh*t! I don't blame them one bit.
They're not that stupid (and you are)!
Frank

teyebeareeus wrote:
[...]
> some MVP's claim the MOBO is now considered the "computer" others
> claim that it is not...

A mobo, a computer by itself, does not make. Of course it makes as much
sense as windows activation itself.

> I have argued with both sides and they are all crazy.. and stupid of
> course.

Amen. And Microsoft still wonders why people pirate their software.
Mappoint 2006 alone cost only a little over 600 USD... one bloody
application. And look it takes 5 seconds to find on any decent torrent
site. Not that I endorse it, just making a point. When are the software
and media giants going to finally realize that grossly over pricing
products only serves to fuel piracy.

Then again, one has to wonder if there is even a point to pirating
Vista.

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> The Windows license is tied to the System Board if it is an OEM
> license that came with the machine.

Why is this this? It makes absolutely no sense. A mobo is not a
computer, just as a chassis is not a car. I have every right to
csutomize my computer as I see fit, including swapping out the
motherboard. And what if the motherboard dies and a new one is either
sent from the OEM or bought from a store? Are you saying I'd have to buy
a new license? What kind of bunk is this??

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> The Windows license is tied to the System Board if it is an OEM license that
> came with the machine. If it you purchase a full retail license for Vista
> you can put it whatever machine you license. Upgrade licenses are tied to a
> original full package version of the product. For instance, if you buy
> Office 2007 Upgrade, you must have full version of Office 2000, Office XP or
> 2003 to qualify for the product. Although the software does not see this and
> you could normally use an upgrade version of 2000, XP or 2003 to qualify the
> upgrade during installation.
>
> As for the OP, format the existing installation of Vista, then install Vista
> x64 and activate over the Internet or by telelphone.
>
> See tutorial:
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/84...sta-phone.html

Where does it say it's tied to the system board?

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Because that is what the EULA says.
--
Andre
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http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
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> Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
>> The Windows license is tied to the System Board if it is an OEM
>> license that came with the machine.
>
> Why is this this? It makes absolutely no sense. A mobo is not a computer,
> just as a chassis is not a car. I have every right to csutomize my
> computer as I see fit, including swapping out the motherboard. And what if
> the motherboard dies and a new one is either sent from the OEM or bought
> from a store? Are you saying I'd have to buy a new license? What kind of
> bunk is this??
>

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> Because that is what the EULA says.

The vista eula? In what section? I've never seen it.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett