Where has all my disk space gone?

On my D: drive, Vista reports that 54GB have been used but when I add up the
totals for each folder it only comes to 18GB. Where is the rest of the
space? I have turned on display of hidden files and even display of hidden
OS files but nothing is showing up.

All I can think of is restore points but would they take up that much space
for just a handful of points?

How can I determine how much space is being used by restore points?

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Qu0ll wrote:
> On my D: drive, Vista reports that 54GB have been used but when I add up
> the totals for each folder it only comes to 18GB. Where is the rest of
> the space? I have turned on display of hidden files and even display of
> hidden OS files but nothing is showing up.
>
> All I can think of is restore points but would they take up that much
> space for just a handful of points?
>
> How can I determine how much space is being used by restore points?
>

Sub Folder's Are Using Up The Rest Of The Space, Just FYI>

G'day cobber

What tool are you using to measure disk space?

I ask, because many pre-Vista file and disk utilities do not understand how
to use junction points. They will over-estimate how much disk space is used.
If you compare results from Explorer with a tool like, say SpaceMonger
(http://www.sixty-five.cc/sm), SpaceMonger gets it totally wrong. Actually
SpaceMonger is an excellent utility - it just needs to be updated, to
understand Vista's file systems conventions.

You can also get some idea of disk usage by running the "Disk Clean up" tool
under Accessories, System Tools. This will show you how much space is used
by hidden temp files, etc. The tool won't actual delete the files until you
click on OK, just hit Cancel to back out.

Hope it helps a bit,
Andrew

Qu0ll

You need to use a command line to see this information, but first, you
should perform a cleanup on that drive. Go to Start and type disk and
in the results, click the Disk Cleanup program. Select Files from all users
on this computer and then select the D: drive. Click the More Options Tab
and then, in the System Restore and Shadow Copies section, click the Cleanup
Button. This will delete all but the most recent system restore files.

Next, if your maximum size for System Restore is way too large, you should
adjust this. By default Vista sets the maximum size allocated for VSS to 15%
of the disk size. With some of newer drives, this can result in a huge
amount of space being allocated.

Go to Start and type cmd and in the results, right click the cmd.exe
item and
select the "Run as administrator" option. OK the UAC prompt.

When the command window opens, type the following.

D:

Press ENTER

This will switch to the D: drive.

Now type the following command.

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Press ENTER.

The result will show the current amount of Used, Allocated, and Maximum
allowed size for the Volume Shadow Storage on that drive.

The following
command will set the maximum amount of disk space used for the shadow
storage to 10GB.

vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=D: /On=D: /MaxSize=10.0GB

Press ENTER.

(type the command as shown, including the spaces)
You should see a message that the command succeeded.

You can change the final (MAXSIZE=) value in the command to suit yourself.
(ie:
change 10.0GB to 5.0GB)

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"Qu0ll" <> wrote in message
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> On my D: drive, Vista reports that 54GB have been used but when I add up
> the totals for each folder it only comes to 18GB. Where is the rest of
> the space? I have turned on display of hidden files and even display of
> hidden OS files but nothing is showing up.
>
> All I can think of is restore points but would they take up that much
> space for just a handful of points?
>
> How can I determine how much space is being used by restore points?
>
> --
> And loving it,
>
> -Q
> _________________________________________________
>
> (Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me)

"Andrew McLaren" <> wrote in message
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> G'day cobber

G'day. For all the non-Aussies out there, "cobber" is a mate in our
vernacular.

> What tool are you using to measure disk space?

I am looking at the Used Space in Explorer. Also, when I use Acronis True
Image to create an image it is 36GB in size (it is compressed). However,
when I run JDiskReport it reports a total usage of only 18GB which
correlates with my calculation by totalling the space used in each folder.

> You can also get some idea of disk usage by running the "Disk Clean up"
> tool under Accessories, System Tools. This will show you how much space is
> used by hidden temp files, etc. The tool won't actual delete the files
> until you > click on OK, just hit Cancel to back out.

When I run Disk Cleanup it says that the total amount of disk space I would
gain is... 0 bytes. So there doesn't appear to be any wastage happening.

Any further ideas?

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Hi Qu0ll,

It's the same as Ronnie said, but it has screenshots and examples with
it to make a bit easier to understand.

Go to this link and do this section:
CHANGE SYSTEM RESTORE'S DISK USAGE AMOUNT:

'http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66971-system-restore.html?ltr=S'
(http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66...ore.html?ltr=S)

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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"Ronnie Vernon MVP" <> wrote in message
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> Qu0ll
>
> You need to use a command line to see this information, but first, you
> should perform a cleanup on that drive. Go to Start and type disk and
> in the results, click the Disk Cleanup program. Select Files from all
> users > on this computer and then select the D: drive. Click the More
> Options Tab and then, in the System Restore and Shadow Copies section,
> click the Cleanup Button. This will delete all but the most recent system
> restore files.
>
> Next, if your maximum size for System Restore is way too large, you should
> adjust this. By default Vista sets the maximum size allocated for VSS to
> 15% of the disk size. With some of newer drives, this can result in a huge
> amount of space being allocated.
>
> Go to Start and type cmd and in the results, right click the cmd.exe
> item and
> select the "Run as administrator" option. OK the UAC prompt.
>
> When the command window opens, type the following.
>
> D:
>
> Press ENTER
>
> This will switch to the D: drive.
>
> Now type the following command.
>
> vssadmin list shadowstorage
>
> Press ENTER.
>
> The result will show the current amount of Used, Allocated, and Maximum
> allowed size for the Volume Shadow Storage on that drive.
>
> The following
> command will set the maximum amount of disk space used for the shadow
> storage to 10GB.
>
> vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=D: /On=D: /MaxSize=10.0GB
>
> Press ENTER.
>
> (type the command as shown, including the spaces)
> You should see a message that the command succeeded.
>
> You can change the final (MAXSIZE=) value in the command to suit yourself.
> (ie:
> change 10.0GB to 5.0GB)

A-ha, I think you're on to something. When I query the shadow storage it
reveals:

D:\>vssadmin list shadowstorage
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.

Shadow Copy Storage association
For volume: (D\\?\Volume{7592a6db-bf97-11db-b972-806e6f6e6963}\
Shadow Copy Storage volume:
(D\\?\Volume{7592a6db-bf97-11db-b972806e6f6e6963}\
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 32.111 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 33.905 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 41.892 GB

so that's where all the space has gone. To resolve this I am simply going
to turn off System Restore on this drive as I already use Acronis True Image
anyway.

Thanks very much.

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Brink

That does make it easier to understand. BTW, you've put together some very
good tutorials on that website.

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"brink" <> wrote in message
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>
> Hi Qu0ll,
>
> It's the same as Ronnie said, but it has screenshots and examples with
> it to make a bit easier to understand.
>
> Go to this link and do this section:
> CHANGE SYSTEM RESTORE'S DISK USAGE AMOUNT:
>
> 'http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66971-system-restore.html?ltr=S'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66...ore.html?ltr=S)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn
>
>
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>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> '_www.Vistax64.com_' (http://www.vistax64.com/www.Vistax64.com)
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"Ronnie Vernon MVP" <> wrote in message
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> That does make it easier to understand. BTW, you've put together some very
> good tutorials on that website.

I agree with Ronnie - it's one of the better Vista sites.

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