Hello Windows 7, so long Vista...

I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP 2133
Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I have
ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me. Windows 7
fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista while keeping the
glass and transparency effects. It performs very well and is a pleasure to
use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7 processor. In fact it
easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the Mini-Note. For a beta 1
version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I would expect for a beta
version. The new taskbar is plain awesome. Combining quick launching with
identifying open apps with transparency will be a huge performance boost.
Networking seems to be improved and management of icons in the task tray
improved.

Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the past
but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened and fixed
the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the new taskbar will
increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will be testing Windows 7
on these four systems until the RTM version is available. Windows 7 is a
winner and I predict it is going to be a huge success.

good to hear that..... what happens once the actual OS comes out retail
does the beta expire? sorry for the dumb question but I don't have an
experience with Beta

Megabyte;1130884 Wrote:
> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad cor
> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the H
> 213
> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows
> hav
> ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me. Window
>
> fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista while keepin
> th
> glass and transparency effects. It performs very well and is
> pleasure t
> use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7 processor. In fac
> i
> easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the Mini-Note. For a beta
> version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I would expect for a bet
> version. The new taskbar is plain awesome. Combining quick launchin
> wit
> identifying open apps with transparency will be a huge performanc
> boost
> Networking seems to be improved and management of icons in the tas
> tra
> improved
>
> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in th
> pas
> but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened an
> fixe
> the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the new taskba
> wil
> increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will be testin
> Windows
> on these four systems until the RTM version is available. Windows 7 i
>
> winner and I predict it is going to be a huge success

--
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The current beta expires in July!



"amboyangler" <> wrote in
message news:...
>
> good to hear that..... what happens once the actual OS comes out retail?
> does the beta expire? sorry for the dumb question but I don't have any
> experience with Betas
>
> Megabyte;1130884 Wrote:
>> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
>> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP
>> 2133
>> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I
>> have
>> ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me. Windows
>> 7
>> fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista while keeping
>> the
>> glass and transparency effects. It performs very well and is a
>> pleasure to
>> use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7 processor. In fact
>> it
>> easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the Mini-Note. For a beta 1
>> version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I would expect for a beta
>> version. The new taskbar is plain awesome. Combining quick launching
>> with
>> identifying open apps with transparency will be a huge performance
>> boost.
>> Networking seems to be improved and management of icons in the task
>> tray
>> improved.
>>
>> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the
>> past
>> but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened and
>> fixed
>> the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the new taskbar
>> will
>> increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will be testing
>> Windows 7
>> on these four systems until the RTM version is available. Windows 7 is
>> a
>> winner and I predict it is going to be a huge success.
>
>
> --
> amboyangler
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>

"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
news:##...
> The current beta expires in July!
>

From the looks of the beta I'm guessing we may see RTM before it expires.

>
> "amboyangler" <> wrote in
> message news:...
>>
>> good to hear that..... what happens once the actual OS comes out retail?
>> does the beta expire? sorry for the dumb question but I don't have any
>> experience with Betas
>>
>> Megabyte;1130884 Wrote:
>>> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
>>> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP
>>> 2133
>>> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I
>>> have
>>> ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me. Windows
>>> 7
>>> fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista while keeping
>>> the
>>> glass and transparency effects. It performs very well and is a
>>> pleasure to
>>> use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7 processor. In fact
>>> it
>>> easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the Mini-Note. For a beta 1
>>> version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I would expect for a beta
>>> version. The new taskbar is plain awesome. Combining quick launching
>>> with
>>> identifying open apps with transparency will be a huge performance
>>> boost.
>>> Networking seems to be improved and management of icons in the task
>>> tray
>>> improved.
>>>
>>> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the
>>> past
>>> but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened and
>>> fixed
>>> the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the new taskbar
>>> will
>>> increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will be testing
>>> Windows 7
>>> on these four systems until the RTM version is available. Windows 7 is
>>> a
>>> winner and I predict it is going to be a huge success.
>>
>>
>> --
>> amboyangler
>> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>>

Thats so funny to me that everyone loves Windows 7 and hates Vista even
though under the hood they are the same identical kernel. The
difference is the WIndows 7 is Vista light and has a lot of applications
moved to the internet to use less memory.


Megabyte wrote:
> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP 2133
> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I
> have ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me.
> Windows 7 fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista
> while keeping the glass and transparency effects. It performs very well
> and is a pleasure to use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7
> processor. In fact it easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the
> Mini-Note. For a beta 1 version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I
> would expect for a beta version. The new taskbar is plain awesome.
> Combining quick launching with identifying open apps with transparency
> will be a huge performance boost. Networking seems to be improved and
> management of icons in the task tray improved.
>
> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the
> past but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened
> and fixed the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the
> new taskbar will increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will
> be testing Windows 7 on these four systems until the RTM version is
> available. Windows 7 is a winner and I predict it is going to be a huge
> success.

I had a love-hate relationship with Vista. It took too long to boot and
shut down and performance was definitely not it's strong point. We seemed
to go backwards from XP in that respect so although there were numerous
improvements in Vista, system performance wasn't one of them. Windows 7
seems to fix all that. So same kernel or not, the work they have done
around services and such has improved it dramatically. Vista on the
Mini-Note was a dog, Windows 7 on the Mini-Note is a pleasure to use. My
beef with Vista was always performance and Windows 7 fixes that.

"jrusso2" <> wrote in message
news:#L$...
> Thats so funny to me that everyone loves Windows 7 and hates Vista even
> though under the hood they are the same identical kernel. The difference
> is the WIndows 7 is Vista light and has a lot of applications moved to the
> internet to use less memory.
>
>
> Megabyte wrote:
>> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
>> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP 2133
>> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I
>> have ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me.
>> Windows 7 fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista while
>> keeping the glass and transparency effects. It performs very well and is
>> a pleasure to use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7
>> processor. In fact it easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the
>> Mini-Note. For a beta 1 version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I
>> would expect for a beta version. The new taskbar is plain awesome.
>> Combining quick launching with identifying open apps with transparency
>> will be a huge performance boost. Networking seems to be improved and
>> management of icons in the task tray improved.
>>
>> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the
>> past but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened
>> and fixed the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the new
>> taskbar will increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will be
>> testing Windows 7 on these four systems until the RTM version is
>> available. Windows 7 is a winner and I predict it is going to be a huge
>> success.

Aware of the 2.5m download limit, I spent many frustrating hours loitering
on the W7 page, waiting for the public Beta to appear. Apparently it
appeared and went again in a 15 minute window, presumably when I'd taken a
break for a cup of tea :-(

There's a message saying they'll re-post the Beta when they've got more
servers online, but I'm not very hopeful - it's been like that for several
hours now.

Does anyone have any inside information on if/when it might be available
again?

SteveT

On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:14:51 -0700, Megabyte wrote:

> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP 2133
> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I
> have ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me.
> Windows 7 fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista
> while keeping the glass and transparency effects. It performs very well
> and is a pleasure to use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7
> processor. In fact it easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the
> Mini-Note. For a beta 1 version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I
> would expect for a beta version. The new taskbar is plain awesome.
> Combining quick launching with identifying open apps with transparency
> will be a huge performance boost. Networking seems to be improved and
> management of icons in the task tray improved.
>
> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the
> past but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened
> and fixed the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the
> new taskbar will increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will
> be testing Windows 7 on these four systems until the RTM version is
> available. Windows 7 is a winner and I predict it is going to be a huge
> success.

So, what you're telling us is that after two years they finally got it
right.

"ray" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:14:51 -0700, Megabyte wrote:
>
>> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
>> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP 2133
>> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I
>> have ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me.
>> Windows 7 fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista
>> while keeping the glass and transparency effects. It performs very well
>> and is a pleasure to use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7
>> processor. In fact it easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the
>> Mini-Note. For a beta 1 version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I
>> would expect for a beta version. The new taskbar is plain awesome.
>> Combining quick launching with identifying open apps with transparency
>> will be a huge performance boost. Networking seems to be improved and
>> management of icons in the task tray improved.
>>
>> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the
>> past but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened
>> and fixed the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the
>> new taskbar will increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will
>> be testing Windows 7 on these four systems until the RTM version is
>> available. Windows 7 is a winner and I predict it is going to be a huge
>> success.
>
> So, what you're telling us is that after two years they finally got it
> right.

Yep and I'm sure a little healthy competition from Linux on the Netbook
front was a big help also! They did seem to learn from Vista mistakes
though and they have built a much better operating system as a result so
rather than focusing on the past I'm going to look forward and enjoy Windows
7. The taskbar is innovative and the best that I've seen or used on any
platform. The person or team that came up with it deserves a good bonus.

In the opinion of many (and I'm included here) although Vista took 5 years
to create Microsoft rolled it out far to early. Even during the latter part
of the beta test I publically said that to roll out now would be a disaster
because Vista wasn't ready. If Microsoft had hung back for say another 6
months the barrage of complaints against Vista would have been minor instead
of major.

Now most people would say that 'profit' was the instigation for the fast
rollout of Vista. I won't go down that track; Microsoft are entitled to make
a profit the same as any other multinational company.

While I agree Windows 7 is extremely stable, especially for beta 1. I've had
a few minor problems with it which, incidentally, I didn't have with the
pre-beta release. That means, in theory, that beta 1 is better than the
pre-release, but in practice, so far, the pre-release beta, for me, was less
troublesome.

Based on previous beta tests there will be many more 'builds' before RTM
(these build will only be issued to Microsoft beta testers, they probably,
based on past experience, be made available to the public.) So, really, we
have a long way to go yet. Each new build will bring its own problem.

While many can't wait for the RTM of Windows 7 (remember Microsoft were
originally looking at late 2009 early 2010 for RTM delivery) to even
consider bringing the launch forward would probably be a suicidal as when
Microsoft launched Vista.

Microsoft have made it clear that 'they have learnt from passed experiences
with Windows Vista'. They actually learnt the hard way. Let's just hope they
don't make the same mistake with Windows 7, releasing it too early and
having again to suffer the wrath of the paying public.

If something is good then it is worth waiting for, if that mean a release
date, even of early to mid 2010 then the wait will be worth it. Only fools
rush in.

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"Megabyte" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:##...
>> The current beta expires in July!
>>
>
> From the looks of the beta I'm guessing we may see RTM before it expires.
>
>>
>> "amboyangler" <> wrote in
>> message news:...
>>>
>>> good to hear that..... what happens once the actual OS comes out retail?
>>> does the beta expire? sorry for the dumb question but I don't have any
>>> experience with Betas
>>>
>>> Megabyte;1130884 Wrote:
>>>> I have now installed Windows 7 on 4 different systems; an HP quad core
>>>> desktop, a Lenovo T61p laptop, an HP TX26XX Tablet PC and on the HP
>>>> 2133
>>>> Mini-Note. In my opinion, Windows 7 is the best version of Windows I
>>>> have
>>>> ever used and I've used every version except version 2 and Me. Windows
>>>> 7
>>>> fixes the boot, performance and shut down issues in Vista while keeping
>>>> the
>>>> glass and transparency effects. It performs very well and is a
>>>> pleasure to
>>>> use even on the Mini-Note which has a lowly VIA C7 processor. In fact
>>>> it
>>>> easily performs as well as XP or Ubuntu on the Mini-Note. For a beta 1
>>>> version it seems rock solid, much beyond what I would expect for a beta
>>>> version. The new taskbar is plain awesome. Combining quick launching
>>>> with
>>>> identifying open apps with transparency will be a huge performance
>>>> boost.
>>>> Networking seems to be improved and management of icons in the task
>>>> tray
>>>> improved.
>>>>
>>>> Great job Microsoft! I have been critical of some of your moves in the
>>>> past
>>>> but my hat goes off to the developers of Windows 7. You listened and
>>>> fixed
>>>> the performance issues that were the downfall of Vista, the new taskbar
>>>> will
>>>> increase productivity. The beta is so good that I will be testing
>>>> Windows 7
>>>> on these four systems until the RTM version is available. Windows 7 is
>>>> a
>>>> winner and I predict it is going to be a huge success.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> amboyangler
>>> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>>>