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stuckthrottle
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      05-12-2011
Hello

I was trying to turn off dhcp on my router and on on SBS 2003 Premium but di
something horribly wrong and lost all network connectivity. At this point I a
just trying to set it back to how it was but I am unable to see or be seen b
the client computers
I've tried many different things and was hoping someone here could offer som
advice




Windows IP Configuratio

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : miller-serve
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : MillerCNC.loca
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybri
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Ye
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : N
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MillerCNC.loca
sd.cox.ne

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : sd.cox.ne
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Etherne
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Ye
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Ye
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disable
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:57:24 A
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, May 13, 2011 7:57:24 A

Ethernet adapter Network Connection

Connection-specific DNS Suffix .
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet #
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : N
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . .
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
 
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Joe
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      05-12-2011
On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:37:34 -0500
stuckthrottle <> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was trying to turn off dhcp on my router and on on SBS 2003
> Premium but did something horribly wrong and lost all network
> connectivity. At this point I am just trying to set it back to how it
> was but I am unable to see or be seen by the client computers.
> I've tried many different things and was hoping someone here could
> offer some advice.
>
>
>
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : miller-server
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : MillerCNC.local
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MillerCNC.local
> sd.cox.net
>
> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : sd.cox.net
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
> Ethernet Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-DC
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:57:24 AM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, May 13, 2011 7:57:24 AM
>
> Ethernet adapter Network Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
> Ethernet #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-DD
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1


It would appear that you have two NICs in the SBS (there's not much
point to Premium otherwise). You also have the same network address
(192.168.1.) on both NICs, which is the cause of the problem. They must
be different, since among other things the SBS is a router, and cannot
determine which NIC is connected to the default gateway.

If you are using VPN, or are likely to do so, then the 192.168.1.
network is not a good choice, because VPN is also based on routing, and
it's not unusual for clients to use that network by default.

So connect to the Internet router and change its IP address to
something like 192.168.37.2 (use a single PC/laptop plugged into it if
you can't reach it from anywhere else, and of course you will lose
contact when the network address changes.) Set the SBS external NIC to
something else in that network, presumably the .1 address, and you
should be back in business. You'll probably need to run the CEICW again.

If you do want to change the internal network address, SBS has a Change
IP Address wizard, which will do it all for you. You'll need to reboot
the LAN clients afterwards.

And going back to the beginning, you don't need to worry about the
router anyway. The SBS DHCP server will operate on the LAN network
only, the external IP address will be fixed, and the router can run a
DHCP server without affecting the SBS. Just make sure the router pool
does not include the SBS external NIC address. This is a useful way to
work, as visitors' laptops can be plugged directly into the router and
get DHCP information, and they will have an Internet connection
without being able to reach the LAN.

For future reference, Microsoft no longer maintains this newsgroup, and
queries should now be posted to:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...server/threads
and you'll need a Hotmail or Live email address to post.

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      05-12-2011
stuckthrottle wrote on 05/12/2011 11:37 ET
> Hello
>
> I was trying to turn off dhcp on my router and on on SBS 2003 Premium but di
> something horribly wrong and lost all network connectivity. At this point

a
> just trying to set it back to how it was but I am unable to see or be seen b
> the client computers
> I've tried many different things and was hoping someone here could offer som
> advice
>
>
>
>
> Windows IP Configuratio
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : miller-serve
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : MillerCNC.loca
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybri
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Ye
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : N
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MillerCNC.loca
> sd.cox.ne
>
> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : sd.cox.ne
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Etherne
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-D
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Ye
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Ye
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disable
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:57:24 A
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, May 13, 2011 7:57:24 A
>
> Ethernet adapter Network Connection
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix .
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet #
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-D
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : N
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . .
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
>

I made some progress but I am still at a total loss. SBS can now see th
internet but cannot connect to clients, or clients to sbs. Can some pleas
provide more help
I think the original problem of having the same ip on both NICs is stil
there

Windows IP Configuratio

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : millerserversb
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : MillerCNC.loca
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybri
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Ye
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : N
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MillerCNC.loca

Ethernet adapter Network Connection

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : MillerCNC.loca
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Etherne
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Ye
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Ye
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disable
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:37:27 P
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, May 13, 2011 1:37:27 P

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection

Connection-specific DNS Suffix .
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet #
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-F6-E0-D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : N
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . .
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.115
 
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      05-13-2011
On Thu, 12 May 2011 16:18:11 -0500
stuckthrottle <> wrote:

> >

> I made some progress but I am still at a total loss. SBS can now see
> the internet but cannot connect to clients, or clients to sbs. Can
> some please provide more help.
> I think the original problem of having the same ip on both NICs is
> still there.
>


Yes, it is. You *must* change the network address, not just the last
digit group. You *must* change either the LAN network address or the
external NIC/router network address to be something other than the
192.168.1. address that both have at the moment. Any of the
192.168.xxx. networks will do, though I suggest avoiding 192.168.0. as
well.

The SBS Change IP Address wizard will do that for the LAN, but you must
then renew the workstation DHCP leases, which is most easily done by
rebooting them.

Alternatively, you must change the SBS external NIC and the router LAN
configuration to use another network address, as I suggested previously.

You should also check that the workstations use only the SBS as DNS
server, run the ipconfig utility to check that.

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