Hidden XP partition?

I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on my
machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot loader.
However, although the vista partition is hidden from the XP system
when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the XP partition.

I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?

How can I hide the XP partition from the vista system ( and get the
logical drives to show the letters I want by the way)?

--
Chris Game

"If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it."
-- Albert Einstein

What file system is XP formatted in? If it is FAT32 then this is the reason.
A FAT32 partition cannt see an NTFS partition, but NTFS 'can' see FAT32.
Vista should automatically install as an NTFS file system, so it maybe that
your XP partition is FAT32.

On my system both XP and Vista are NTFS and both operating systems can see
the others partition.

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"Chris Game" <> wrote in message
news:1wgqnfmzc74x7$....
> I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on my
> machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot loader.
> However, although the vista partition is hidden from the XP system
> when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the XP partition.
>
> I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?
>
> How can I hide the XP partition from the vista system ( and get the
> logical drives to show the letters I want by the way)?
>
> --
> Chris Game
>
> "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it."
> -- Albert Einstein

What? This answer makes not sense. Partitions don't see each other based
on formatting.

A FAT32 XP install can see a Vista NTFS partition fine.
"John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> What file system is XP formatted in? If it is FAT32 then this is the
> reason. A FAT32 partition cannt see an NTFS partition, but NTFS 'can' see
> FAT32. Vista should automatically install as an NTFS file system, so it
> maybe that your XP partition is FAT32.
>
> On my system both XP and Vista are NTFS and both operating systems can see
> the others partition.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
> either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail..
>
>
> "Chris Game" <> wrote in message
> news:1wgqnfmzc74x7$....
>> I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on my
>> machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot loader.
>> However, although the vista partition is hidden from the XP system
>> when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the XP partition.
>>
>> I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?
>>
>> How can I hide the XP partition from the vista system ( and get the
>> logical drives to show the letters I want by the way)?
>>
>> --
>> Chris Game
>>
>> "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it."
>> -- Albert Einstein
>
>

Well, you're partly right. Partitions don't see
anything until they have an os installed. Then
some os's cannot see certain other partitions.
Win95/98/ME cannot see an NTFS partition without
third party software. Linux partitions may not
be seen by different version of Windows.

But, without an os, the partition is totally blind!


Tom Scales wrote:
> What? This answer makes not sense. Partitions don't see each other based
> on formatting.
>
> A FAT32 XP install can see a Vista NTFS partition fine.
> "John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> What file system is XP formatted in? If it is FAT32 then this is the
>> reason. A FAT32 partition cannt see an NTFS partition, but NTFS 'can' see
>> FAT32. Vista should automatically install as an NTFS file system, so it
>> maybe that your XP partition is FAT32.
>>
>> On my system both XP and Vista are NTFS and both operating systems can see
>> the others partition.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
>> either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>> the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> mail..
>>
>>
>> "Chris Game" <> wrote in message
>> news:1wgqnfmzc74x7$....
>>> I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on my
>>> machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot loader.
>>> However, although the vista partition is hidden from the XP system
>>> when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the XP partition.
>>>
>>> I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?
>>>
>>> How can I hide the XP partition from the vista system ( and get the
>>> logical drives to show the letters I want by the way)?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Game
>>>
>>> "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it."
>>> -- Albert Einstein
>>
>
>

Both his partitions have operating systems on them therefore they are not
blind.

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"John Boy" <> wrote in message
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> Well, you're partly right. Partitions don't see anything until they have
> an os installed. Then some os's cannot see certain other partitions.
> Win95/98/ME cannot see an NTFS partition without third party software.
> Linux partitions may not be seen by different version of Windows.
>
> But, without an os, the partition is totally blind!
>
>
> Tom Scales wrote:
>> What? This answer makes not sense. Partitions don't see each other
>> based on formatting.
>>
>> A FAT32 XP install can see a Vista NTFS partition fine.
>> "John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> What file system is XP formatted in? If it is FAT32 then this is the
>>> reason. A FAT32 partition cannt see an NTFS partition, but NTFS 'can'
>>> see FAT32. Vista should automatically install as an NTFS file system, so
>>> it maybe that your XP partition is FAT32.
>>>
>>> On my system both XP and Vista are NTFS and both operating systems can
>>> see the others partition.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Barnett MVP
>>> Associate Expert
>>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>>
>>> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>>> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>>> the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>>> this mail..
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chris Game" <> wrote in message
>>> news:1wgqnfmzc74x7$....
>>>> I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on my
>>>> machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot loader.
>>>> However, although the vista partition is hidden from the XP system
>>>> when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the XP partition.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?
>>>>
>>>> How can I hide the XP partition from the vista system ( and get the
>>>> logical drives to show the letters I want by the way)?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Game
>>>>
>>>> "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it."
>>>> -- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>

So if Windows XP Home was installed on a FAT32 partition it would not "see"
an NTFS partition?

--
Mark

Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!

"John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
news:uN%...
> Both his partitions have operating systems on them therefore they are not
> blind.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
> either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail..
>
>
> "John Boy" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Well, you're partly right. Partitions don't see anything until they have
>> an os installed. Then some os's cannot see certain other partitions.
>> Win95/98/ME cannot see an NTFS partition without third party software.
>> Linux partitions may not be seen by different version of Windows.
>>
>> But, without an os, the partition is totally blind!
>>
>>
>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>> What? This answer makes not sense. Partitions don't see each other
>>> based on formatting.
>>>
>>> A FAT32 XP install can see a Vista NTFS partition fine.
>>> "John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> What file system is XP formatted in? If it is FAT32 then this is the
>>>> reason. A FAT32 partition cannt see an NTFS partition, but NTFS 'can'
>>>> see FAT32. Vista should automatically install as an NTFS file system,
>>>> so it maybe that your XP partition is FAT32.
>>>>
>>>> On my system both XP and Vista are NTFS and both operating systems can
>>>> see the others partition.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Barnett MVP
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>>>
>>>> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>>>> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>>>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed
>>>> in this mail..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Chris Game" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:1wgqnfmzc74x7$....
>>>>> I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on my
>>>>> machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot loader.
>>>>> However, although the vista partition is hidden from the XP system
>>>>> when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the XP partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I hide the XP partition from the vista system ( and get the
>>>>> logical drives to show the letters I want by the way)?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Game
>>>>>
>>>>> "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it."
>>>>> -- Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>
>

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 13:35:23 +0100, Chris Game <>
wrote:

>I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on my
>machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot loader.
>However, although the vista partition is hidden from the XP system
>when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the XP partition.
>
>I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?

Not true.

>
>How can I hide the XP partition from the vista system ( and get the
>logical drives to show the letters I want by the way)?

If Vista's Disk Management snap-in has the capability, remove the
drive letter from the XP partition. Then it won't show up in Windows
Explorer.

andy wrote:

>> I've just installed vista on a newly created primary partition on
>> my machine. I can boot to either XP or vista using the new boot
>> loader. However, although the vista partition is hidden from the
>> XP system when I boot to XP, when I boot to vista I can see the
>> XP partition.
>>
>> I thought that primary partitions were hidden if not active?
>
> Not true.

What have I confused or got wrong, or remembered wrongly then?

I'll try the drive letter suggestion later, thanks for the
information.

--
Chris Game

"If everyone with a question just went away and looked it up
we'd never learn anything." -- Carlie Hulme

It's precisely for this situation that I like the way Partition Magic does
things. When it makes a partition active it by default sets the non-active
primary partitions as hidden. This way each OS has its own computer to run.

They will still show up in XP and Vista Disk Management, but as some kind of
unknown boot loader.

I'm using PQBOOT as neither Partition Magic 8 nor BootMagic are Vista
compatible, but the PQBOOT files can be copied from the cd to a folder in
Vista and the PQBOOT32.EXE run as administrator. Brings up a command window
that serves the same purpose as the PQBoot for Windows does on my other 2
partitions.
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Dennis
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andy wrote:

> If Vista's Disk Management snap-in has the capability, remove the
> drive letter from the XP partition. Then it won't show up in
> Windows Explorer.

"Windows cannot modify the drive letter of your volume. This may
happen if your volume is a system or boot volume, or has page
files."

--
Chris Game

He who laughs last thinks slowest!