hold or fold?

Seeing lots of threads about issues with Vista.

Ordered an HP Pavilion Slimline refurbished s3123w. It will have 2GB RAM.
Vista Home Premium.

Slimline is to arrive in a few days. Am planning my software installs and am
wondering the benefit if any of downgrading to XP home?

HP customer service says they will allow the downgrade to XP, and even
supply the XP OS for that refurbished machine. The Slimline warranty is 90
days. I am not worried, I am an HP man. Two HP printers here in US and also
have one in my European apartment.

I plan to get a new notebook later this year, possibly the DV 6675US. Vista
OS.

The Slimline will/ can be my training in Vista and more current CPU's and
RAM.

Currently, I have an HP Pavilion Notebook, a ZE 4230, about 4 years old and
its OS of XP Home SP2 seems fine, yet it is understood that once MS gets the
kinks are worked out Vista will most likely be the OS of the future,
regardless.

Vista SP 1 is due out any time this quarter.

And yes, SP3 for XP is due out this quarter.

Any thoughts will be appreciated as I am unsure whether to learn the Vista
OS and continue suppose MS will simply create its soon to be issued SP 1 to
Vista to make it more like XP anyway, which is what I have concluded from my
reading so far.

Of course I read there have been lots of issues with Vista, but there may be
lots of seemingly happy Vista users also and I would be willing to join
them.

Yes, I will have to learn the system, take my time yet that is the fun of a
new system. Is it not?


Vista may be more than we think if we only give it time.

Ideas and thoughts?

Cordially,
Robert

Hi Robert,

What you have to take into account is the fact that persons who have
encountered problems on Windows Vista are experiencing individual
experiences with the OS. It does not necessarily define the entire
experience of Vista in general on everybody's computer. So, the only way to
find out is to really try for yourself, if there is a problem whether its
software compatibility you look for a possible fix or work around. Usually
its just a fix and you can run the OS like you normally would Windows XP.

I have been running Windows Vista RTM since November 2006 and have never had
any regrets or inhibition to return Windows XP. You are also getting Vista
the best way too, on a new machine preinstalled, some persons who experience
minor problems on Vista are usually those do an upgrade Windows XP or did
not upgrade the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor before upgrading.

Waiting on Windows Vista SP1 is unnecessary, its really just a collection of
updates that have been released for Vista since November 2006 consolidated
into one package in addition to some updates that support new standards such
as 802.11n based hardware for example. I suggest you run Vista a bit, kick
the tires maybe some problems if you encounter any can be supplemented by
installing XP in a Virtual Machine solution.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Robert J. Lafayette" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Seeing lots of threads about issues with Vista.
>
> Ordered an HP Pavilion Slimline refurbished s3123w. It will have 2GB RAM.
> Vista Home Premium.
>
> Slimline is to arrive in a few days. Am planning my software installs and
> am wondering the benefit if any of downgrading to XP home?
>
> HP customer service says they will allow the downgrade to XP, and even
> supply the XP OS for that refurbished machine. The Slimline warranty is 90
> days. I am not worried, I am an HP man. Two HP printers here in US and
> also have one in my European apartment.
>
> I plan to get a new notebook later this year, possibly the DV 6675US.
> Vista OS.
>
> The Slimline will/ can be my training in Vista and more current CPU's and
> RAM.
>
> Currently, I have an HP Pavilion Notebook, a ZE 4230, about 4 years old
> and its OS of XP Home SP2 seems fine, yet it is understood that once MS
> gets the kinks are worked out Vista will most likely be the OS of the
> future, regardless.
>
> Vista SP 1 is due out any time this quarter.
>
> And yes, SP3 for XP is due out this quarter.
>
> Any thoughts will be appreciated as I am unsure whether to learn the Vista
> OS and continue suppose MS will simply create its soon to be issued SP 1
> to Vista to make it more like XP anyway, which is what I have concluded
> from my reading so far.
>
> Of course I read there have been lots of issues with Vista, but there may
> be lots of seemingly happy Vista users also and I would be willing to join
> them.
>
> Yes, I will have to learn the system, take my time yet that is the fun of
> a new system. Is it not?
>
>
> Vista may be more than we think if we only give it time.
>
> Ideas and thoughts?
>
> Cordially,
> Robert
>
>
>

Andre:

Thanks for your support. I am willing to kick the tires and join the fun.

Am open to other good reports also.

Cordially,
Robert


"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Robert,
>
> What you have to take into account is the fact that persons who have
> encountered problems on Windows Vista are experiencing individual
> experiences with the OS. It does not necessarily define the entire
> experience of Vista in general on everybody's computer. So, the only way
> to find out is to really try for yourself, if there is a problem whether
> its software compatibility you look for a possible fix or work around.
> Usually its just a fix and you can run the OS like you normally would
> Windows XP.
>
> I have been running Windows Vista RTM since November 2006 and have never
> had any regrets or inhibition to return Windows XP. You are also getting
> Vista the best way too, on a new machine preinstalled, some persons who
> experience minor problems on Vista are usually those do an upgrade Windows
> XP or did not upgrade the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor before upgrading.
>
> Waiting on Windows Vista SP1 is unnecessary, its really just a collection
> of updates that have been released for Vista since November 2006
> consolidated into one package in addition to some updates that support new
> standards such as 802.11n based hardware for example. I suggest you run
> Vista a bit, kick the tires maybe some problems if you encounter any can
> be supplemented by installing XP in a Virtual Machine solution.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Robert J. Lafayette" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Seeing lots of threads about issues with Vista.
>>
>> Ordered an HP Pavilion Slimline refurbished s3123w. It will have 2GB RAM.
>> Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> Slimline is to arrive in a few days. Am planning my software installs and
>> am wondering the benefit if any of downgrading to XP home?
>>
>> HP customer service says they will allow the downgrade to XP, and even
>> supply the XP OS for that refurbished machine. The Slimline warranty is
>> 90 days. I am not worried, I am an HP man. Two HP printers here in US and
>> also have one in my European apartment.
>>
>> I plan to get a new notebook later this year, possibly the DV 6675US.
>> Vista OS.
>>
>> The Slimline will/ can be my training in Vista and more current CPU's and
>> RAM.
>>
>> Currently, I have an HP Pavilion Notebook, a ZE 4230, about 4 years old
>> and its OS of XP Home SP2 seems fine, yet it is understood that once MS
>> gets the kinks are worked out Vista will most likely be the OS of the
>> future, regardless.
>>
>> Vista SP 1 is due out any time this quarter.
>>
>> And yes, SP3 for XP is due out this quarter.
>>
>> Any thoughts will be appreciated as I am unsure whether to learn the
>> Vista OS and continue suppose MS will simply create its soon to be issued
>> SP 1 to Vista to make it more like XP anyway, which is what I have
>> concluded from my reading so far.
>>
>> Of course I read there have been lots of issues with Vista, but there may
>> be lots of seemingly happy Vista users also and I would be willing to
>> join them.
>>
>> Yes, I will have to learn the system, take my time yet that is the fun of
>> a new system. Is it not?
>>
>>
>> Vista may be more than we think if we only give it time.
>>
>> Ideas and thoughts?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>
>

> Am open to other good reports also.

Looking forward to read them.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Robert J. Lafayette" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Andre:
>
> Thanks for your support. I am willing to kick the tires and join the fun.
>
> Am open to other good reports also.
>
> Cordially,
> Robert
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> What you have to take into account is the fact that persons who have
>> encountered problems on Windows Vista are experiencing individual
>> experiences with the OS. It does not necessarily define the entire
>> experience of Vista in general on everybody's computer. So, the only way
>> to find out is to really try for yourself, if there is a problem whether
>> its software compatibility you look for a possible fix or work around.
>> Usually its just a fix and you can run the OS like you normally would
>> Windows XP.
>>
>> I have been running Windows Vista RTM since November 2006 and have never
>> had any regrets or inhibition to return Windows XP. You are also getting
>> Vista the best way too, on a new machine preinstalled, some persons who
>> experience minor problems on Vista are usually those do an upgrade
>> Windows XP or did not upgrade the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor before
>> upgrading.
>>
>> Waiting on Windows Vista SP1 is unnecessary, its really just a collection
>> of updates that have been released for Vista since November 2006
>> consolidated into one package in addition to some updates that support
>> new standards such as 802.11n based hardware for example. I suggest you
>> run Vista a bit, kick the tires maybe some problems if you encounter any
>> can be supplemented by installing XP in a Virtual Machine solution.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "Robert J. Lafayette" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Seeing lots of threads about issues with Vista.
>>>
>>> Ordered an HP Pavilion Slimline refurbished s3123w. It will have 2GB
>>> RAM. Vista Home Premium.
>>>
>>> Slimline is to arrive in a few days. Am planning my software installs
>>> and am wondering the benefit if any of downgrading to XP home?
>>>
>>> HP customer service says they will allow the downgrade to XP, and even
>>> supply the XP OS for that refurbished machine. The Slimline warranty is
>>> 90 days. I am not worried, I am an HP man. Two HP printers here in US
>>> and also have one in my European apartment.
>>>
>>> I plan to get a new notebook later this year, possibly the DV 6675US.
>>> Vista OS.
>>>
>>> The Slimline will/ can be my training in Vista and more current CPU's
>>> and RAM.
>>>
>>> Currently, I have an HP Pavilion Notebook, a ZE 4230, about 4 years old
>>> and its OS of XP Home SP2 seems fine, yet it is understood that once MS
>>> gets the kinks are worked out Vista will most likely be the OS of the
>>> future, regardless.
>>>
>>> Vista SP 1 is due out any time this quarter.
>>>
>>> And yes, SP3 for XP is due out this quarter.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts will be appreciated as I am unsure whether to learn the
>>> Vista OS and continue suppose MS will simply create its soon to be
>>> issued SP 1 to Vista to make it more like XP anyway, which is what I
>>> have concluded from my reading so far.
>>>
>>> Of course I read there have been lots of issues with Vista, but there
>>> may be lots of seemingly happy Vista users also and I would be willing
>>> to join them.
>>>
>>> Yes, I will have to learn the system, take my time yet that is the fun
>>> of a new system. Is it not?
>>>
>>>
>>> Vista may be more than we think if we only give it time.
>>>
>>> Ideas and thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Robert J. Lafayette wrote:

> Ideas and thoughts?
>
> Cordially,
> Robert


A couple of issues with legacy hardware (blame the hardware vendors),
and just a couple of issues with legacy software, but certainly the most
stable OS I've ever used, and I've been using since Win3.0.

--
Dave T.

"Many people die at twenty-five and aren't buried
until they are seventy-five".
Benjamin Franklin

"Dave T." <> wrote in message
news:j_dgj.2055$ ...
> Robert J. Lafayette wrote:
>
>> Ideas and thoughts?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Robert
>
>
> A couple of issues with legacy hardware (blame the hardware vendors), and
> just a couple of issues with legacy software, but certainly the most
> stable OS I've ever used, and I've been using since Win3.0.
>
> --
> Dave T.
>
> "Many people die at twenty-five and aren't buried
> until they are seventy-five".
> Benjamin Franklin


Same here. The odd trip up, but nothing of any consequence. I too have been
a Windows user since 3.1, and, providing you have reasonable hardware for
Vista you should find it pretty good. Good luck.

--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler.

>Robert J. Lafayette" <> wrote in message
>news:...
> Andre:
>
> Thanks for your support. I am willing to kick the tires and join the fun.
>
> Am open to other good reports also.
>

I have been running Windows Vista an an HP Pavilion Laptop since March 2007
and have had relatively minor problems and most of them related to 3rd party
software (ie Macromedia Flash Player bugs). I have worked on both XP and
Vista machines and happen to like the Vista interface better.

--
Mark R. Cusumano
Skype Name: mark.cusumano
Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com