Horizonal Autoscroll of trees is the WORST new Vista feature

Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
horizontally scrolls the tree for you?

This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
Vista.

Here is the use case:

User brings up Windows Explorer
User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
folder
While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
is trying to read out of view

Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
apparently knows better what user should be looking at

The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.

Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?

- Mike

It's not just you. It's an incredibly stupid and annoying "feature". In
addition to the annoyances you mentioned, if you click on a file name to
copy or rename it it may suddenly jump out of view. Many have complained
about it, but no one has yet reported a way to turn it off.
--

<> wrote in message
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> Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
> browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
> horizontally scrolls the tree for you?
>
> This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
> Vista.
>
> Here is the use case:
>
> User brings up Windows Explorer
> User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
> folder
> While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
> nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
> is trying to read out of view
>
> Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
> apparently knows better what user should be looking at
>
> The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
> seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.
>
> Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?
>
> - Mike
>

<> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
> Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
> browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
> horizontally scrolls the tree for you?
>
> This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
> Vista.
>
> Here is the use case:
>
> User brings up Windows Explorer
> User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
> folder
> While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
> nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
> is trying to read out of view
>
> Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
> apparently knows better what user should be looking at
>
> The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
> seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.
>
> Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?
>
> - Mike
>


Funny, I like that feature. If I want to see the whole tree I just widen the
column - what's a big monitor for anyway?

Saucy

On Sep 18, 12:10 pm, "Saucy" <saucy538347334873772.sj...@net.net.net>
wrote:
> <MichaelDouglasKra...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news: oups.com...
>
>
>
> > Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
> > browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
> > horizontally scrolls the tree for you?
>
> > This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
> > Vista.
>
> > Here is the use case:
>
> > User brings up Windows Explorer
> > User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
> > folder
> > While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
> > nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
> > is trying to read out of view
>
> > Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
> > apparently knows better what user should be looking at
>
> > The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
> > seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.
>
> > Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?
>
> > - Mike
>
> Funny, I like that feature. If I want to see the whole tree I just widen the
> column - what's a big monitor for anyway?
>
> Saucy

A big monitor is for placing lots of other windows besides just
explorer on the desktop. I have a two-monitor setup with combined
screen resolution of 2560x1024 pixels. The point is - if I want to
scroll to see something in the tree, let the user do it. If you like
the feature - I think that's great. I just need a way to turn it off
because I HATE it.

<> wrote in message
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>
> A big monitor is for placing lots of other windows besides just
> explorer on the desktop. I have a two-monitor setup with combined
> screen resolution of 2560x1024 pixels. The point is - if I want to
> scroll to see something in the tree, let the user do it. If you like
> the feature - I think that's great. I just need a way to turn it off
> because I HATE it.
>

The really annoying thing is that still does this with a MS Intellimouse
that has sideways scrolling anyway.

PS. I have twin screens as well. You might be interested in UltraMon,
which gives you a few extra features when using more than one screen. The
best bit is that it gives you Taskbars on the other screens as well.

www.ultramon.com

ss.

Yeah its another one of those details that I don't mention.. but its
irritating..

I have found very little real improvements in vista, but literally thousands
of
stupid mistakes and bad designs, vista is crap.


<> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
> Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
> browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
> horizontally scrolls the tree for you?
>
> This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
> Vista.
>
> Here is the use case:
>
> User brings up Windows Explorer
> User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
> folder
> While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
> nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
> is trying to read out of view
>
> Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
> apparently knows better what user should be looking at
>
> The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
> seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.
>
> Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?
>
> - Mike
>

he is also forgetting that not everyone has large monitors...
But even I that have 2 monitors 23 inch.. it still irritates me!

also vista should be able to be used on small monitors for various
reasons...

there should be an option to turn it off.. I agree 1000%


<> wrote in message
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> On Sep 18, 12:10 pm, "Saucy" <saucy538347334873772.sj...@net.net.net>
> wrote:
>> <MichaelDouglasKra...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news: oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
>> > browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
>> > horizontally scrolls the tree for you?
>>
>> > This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
>> > Vista.
>>
>> > Here is the use case:
>>
>> > User brings up Windows Explorer
>> > User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
>> > folder
>> > While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
>> > nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
>> > is trying to read out of view
>>
>> > Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
>> > apparently knows better what user should be looking at
>>
>> > The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
>> > seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.
>>
>> > Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?
>>
>> > - Mike
>>
>> Funny, I like that feature. If I want to see the whole tree I just widen
>> the
>> column - what's a big monitor for anyway?
>>
>> Saucy
>
> A big monitor is for placing lots of other windows besides just
> explorer on the desktop. I have a two-monitor setup with combined
> screen resolution of 2560x1024 pixels. The point is - if I want to
> scroll to see something in the tree, let the user do it. If you like
> the feature - I think that's great. I just need a way to turn it off
> because I HATE it.
>

I use ultramon... its great.. although vista should have had taskbars for
secondary monitors built into the GUI..

oh com on.. what did vista add? gadgets and crap? This was something they
were saying that they would add on longhorn.. they removed that too when the
butchered longhorn into the crapista-vista




"Synapse Syndrome" <> wrote in message
news:ui3XUWi%...
> <> wrote in message
> news: ups.com...
>>
>> A big monitor is for placing lots of other windows besides just
>> explorer on the desktop. I have a two-monitor setup with combined
>> screen resolution of 2560x1024 pixels. The point is - if I want to
>> scroll to see something in the tree, let the user do it. If you like
>> the feature - I think that's great. I just need a way to turn it off
>> because I HATE it.
>>
>
> The really annoying thing is that still does this with a MS Intellimouse
> that has sideways scrolling anyway.
>
> PS. I have twin screens as well. You might be interested in UltraMon,
> which gives you a few extra features when using more than one screen. The
> best bit is that it gives you Taskbars on the other screens as well.
>
> www.ultramon.com
>
> ss.
>

[Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:09:07 -0000] wrote:

>Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
>browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
>horizontally scrolls the tree for you?
>
>This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
>Vista.
>
>Here is the use case:
>
>User brings up Windows Explorer
>User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
>folder
>While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
>nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
>is trying to read out of view
>
>Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
>apparently knows better what user should be looking at
>
>The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
>seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.
>
>Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?
>
>- Mike

The reason why this feature annoys you is probably because you're not
using it correctly.
You are in fact looking at one item, but your mouse pointer is pointing
at another.
You need to *synchronize* the two, and you'll yet come to like that
feature.
Just try it.

Marco

On Sep 18, 4:10 pm, Marco Desloovere <marco_desloov...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> MichaelDouglasKra...@gmail.com [Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:09:07 -0000] wrote:
>
>
>
> >Is it just me or does anyone else hate the fact that whenever you are
> >browsing something in a tree, Vista tries to be smarter than you and
> >horizontally scrolls the tree for you?
>
> >This has got to be one of the more annoying "features" added to
> >Vista.
>
> >Here is the use case:
>
> >User brings up Windows Explorer
> >User navigates around the tree several levels deep looking for a
> >folder
> >While user is trying to read the name of the folder, or is looking at
> >nearby folders, Windows Explorer scrolls the portion of the tree user
> >is trying to read out of view
>
> >Result: User can't read what was on the screen because explorer
> >apparently knows better what user should be looking at
>
> >The development team should be ashamed of themselves for this one for
> >seemingly not having tested this with actual human beings.
>
> >Now for the big question: How the hell do I turn this feature off?
>
> >- Mike
>
> The reason why this feature annoys you is probably because you're not
> using it correctly.
> You are in fact looking at one item, but your mouse pointer is pointing
> at another.
> You need to *synchronize* the two, and you'll yet come to like that
> feature.
> Just try it.
>
> Marco

Marco,

The fact that I have to modify my behavior to conform to the way a
software engineer has implemented a feature is proof positive that the
program model and the user model are off-kilter. Microsoft XP's trees
do not have this behavior and that is what I am used to. In fact it's
what millions of Windows users before Vista are used to. Now they've
changed the default behavior in Vista and it is not what I'm used to.
Some people won't care and will like it, but I would argue many people
do care and are annoyed by it.

Again, if you like this feature, great. I'm very happy for you. All
I'm asking for is a way to turn it off.

Are there any Microsofties reading this news group? If so, can you
provide any input on how to toggle this autoscroll feature? Please?

- Mike