ideas for windows 7

1 True 3D rendered desktop
The current Vista desktop is a compromise between new-world 3D rendering and
compatibility with the old 2D world. This has to stop with Windows 7 – we
need to see a fully 3D rendered space that’s just beautiful to use. It must
ooze class, and really make use of the processor power available.

2 Make security work properly
No, it isn’t good enough to have a weak username and password that never
changes. Make Business users go for a third-party authentication system –
smart card, fingerprint reader and so on. Make business laptops tighter in
their default configuration. And make the home experience much more robust,
with proper separation of data between parent and child on a shared device.

3 Only three versions, and no more 32-bit
All this versionitis gives everyone a headache. Let’s have Home, Business
and Ultimate. And that’s it. No mucking around with neutered N versions, Home
Better, Business Lovely and Corporate Got-Most-Bits. The marketplace hasn’t
been fooled by this obfuscation, so perform a gentlemanly climbdown, please.
And while you’re at it, cut the 32-bit version. Some will be upset with this
– tough. All today’s machines are 64-bit compatible, and keeping Windows 7 in
32-bit land is just pandering to the old school.

4 Remove the DRM; mandate signing for drivers & apps
Vista is riddled with DRM, and it does it no good at all. The world is
moving away from DRM, and Microsoft should get out of bed with the
monopolists who want to mandate how, where and when content is viewed.
Microsoft should stop viewing DRM as a profit centre. Meanwhile, it should
come down hard on drivers and app vendors – driver and app signing should be
mandatory for Windows 7. Mutton dressed as lamb has been foisted on the users
for too long now, and it’s time for vendors to put up or shut up.



5 Make Speech and video recognition first-class
Speech is one of those jam-tomorrow things – like Star Trek, we’re promised
a future that never quite arrives. Meanwhile, millions are poured into
Microsoft Research, and it’s time for it to deliver. Automatic face
recognition from a webcam, for example: see what I’m doing, see whether I’m
busy, listen to find out if I’m talking to someone.


6 Fix the storage mess and support all formats
It will be 2010 and we’ll still be stuck on an old-fashioned, if reliable
and trusty, file system in NTFS. Do we want drive letters? No. Do we even
want to see drive volumes? No. Give us properly self-managing, reliable
storage that can auto-grow. Something that can make sure our information is
on more than one spindle. But make it completely transparent. And don’t force
Windows-centric file formats down our throat every five minutes.

7 Give us the powerful and long-promised Assistants
Remember all those promises about software that would notice what you were
doing, learn from it, and make good suggestions? I don’t mean the laughable
Clippy or Dog, I mean tools that are constantly scanning what you’re doing,
your diary and email, and can automate your repetitive work processes. It’s
about time these things delivered to the mainstream.

8 Offer a family pack
Charging full price, or almost full price, for multiple installs in the same
household is daylight robbery. Microsoft offered a family discount on Vista
for US families with multiple PCs, so why not everywhere? Learn from the Home
Student editions, and look at the success of Apple’s licensing model. Let
people pay a fair price for a home-wide licence without feeling that they’ve
been flayed alive.

9 Make backup, restore and disaster recovery go away
Windows 7 must, repeat must, make the whole topic of backup, restore and
disaster recovery disappear, especially in the home and small-business space.
No excuses, no mumbling about “third-party partners�, no shuffling of the
hands. Just make the issue disappear. If users lose data on the Windows 7
platform, for whatever reason, then consider it to be solely your fault, not
theirs.

10 Make third-party software vendors toe the line
It’s time to get tough on the third-party vendors whose products are in the
“weak to dreadful� sector. I’m tired of third-party apps that muscle their
way into my system and attempt to take over. Publish a style guide and stick
to it. Make it part of the logo compliance, and make logo compliance part of
the digital-signing regime.

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http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

1) the 3d desktop can do anything now, but you can rule out the possibility
for MS to actually use it for more that its doing now. LOL
The task is left to 3rd party "partners" like stardock to take advantage of
the technology

2) You can rule this out too... windows will never be secure.. vista is not
more secure than XP although some people claim the opposite, the UAC is a
disaster implementation of security a true abomination.

3) Only 3 versions? You don't understand... MS wants to make ONE product and
then try to make small differences in order to sell this same product to as
many people as possible. Its like having cherry coke, coke diet, coke with
vanilla flavor etc.
Im not sure about the no 32bit thing either.. it sound good theoretically,
but what about drivers? what about all the programs that will not work
well... I dont see this happening even with windows 7. In fact its sure not
to happen. Why ? Well vista has made everyone so mad about its crappy
quality that MS wont risk more dissatisfaction.. no windows 7 will be as
compatible with vista as possible (driver wise)


you have a lot of stuff there... cant reply to all of them no time.
You are asking for MS to actually do good work and even be innovative.
Forget about that.. if you want innovation try supporting another company
that is new.






"paulb" <> wrote in message
news:E5FD12A4-9612-4983-A603-...
>1 True 3D rendered desktop
> The current Vista desktop is a compromise between new-world 3D rendering
> and
> compatibility with the old 2D world. This has to stop with Windows 7 - we
> need to see a fully 3D rendered space that's just beautiful to use. It
> must
> ooze class, and really make use of the processor power available.
>
> 2 Make security work properly
> No, it isn't good enough to have a weak username and password that never
> changes. Make Business users go for a third-party authentication system -
> smart card, fingerprint reader and so on. Make business laptops tighter in
> their default configuration. And make the home experience much more
> robust,
> with proper separation of data between parent and child on a shared
> device.
>
> 3 Only three versions, and no more 32-bit
> All this versionitis gives everyone a headache. Let's have Home, Business
> and Ultimate. And that's it. No mucking around with neutered N versions,
> Home
> Better, Business Lovely and Corporate Got-Most-Bits. The marketplace hasn't
> been fooled by this obfuscation, so perform a gentlemanly climbdown,
> please.
> And while you're at it, cut the 32-bit version. Some will be upset with
> this
> - tough. All today's machines are 64-bit compatible, and keeping Windows 7
> in
> 32-bit land is just pandering to the old school.
>
> 4 Remove the DRM; mandate signing for drivers & apps
> Vista is riddled with DRM, and it does it no good at all. The world is
> moving away from DRM, and Microsoft should get out of bed with the
> monopolists who want to mandate how, where and when content is viewed.
> Microsoft should stop viewing DRM as a profit centre. Meanwhile, it should
> come down hard on drivers and app vendors - driver and app signing should
> be
> mandatory for Windows 7. Mutton dressed as lamb has been foisted on the
> users
> for too long now, and it's time for vendors to put up or shut up.
>
>
>
> 5 Make Speech and video recognition first-class
> Speech is one of those jam-tomorrow things - like Star Trek, we're
> promised
> a future that never quite arrives. Meanwhile, millions are poured into
> Microsoft Research, and it's time for it to deliver. Automatic face
> recognition from a webcam, for example: see what I'm doing, see whether I'm
> busy, listen to find out if I'm talking to someone.
>
>
> 6 Fix the storage mess and support all formats
> It will be 2010 and we'll still be stuck on an old-fashioned, if reliable
> and trusty, file system in NTFS. Do we want drive letters? No. Do we even
> want to see drive volumes? No. Give us properly self-managing, reliable
> storage that can auto-grow. Something that can make sure our information
> is
> on more than one spindle. But make it completely transparent. And don't
> force
> Windows-centric file formats down our throat every five minutes.
>
> 7 Give us the powerful and long-promised Assistants
> Remember all those promises about software that would notice what you were
> doing, learn from it, and make good suggestions? I don't mean the
> laughable
> Clippy or Dog, I mean tools that are constantly scanning what you're
> doing,
> your diary and email, and can automate your repetitive work processes. It's
> about time these things delivered to the mainstream.
>
> 8 Offer a family pack
> Charging full price, or almost full price, for multiple installs in the
> same
> household is daylight robbery. Microsoft offered a family discount on
> Vista
> for US families with multiple PCs, so why not everywhere? Learn from the
> Home
> Student editions, and look at the success of Apple's licensing model. Let
> people pay a fair price for a home-wide licence without feeling that they've
> been flayed alive.
>
> 9 Make backup, restore and disaster recovery go away
> Windows 7 must, repeat must, make the whole topic of backup, restore and
> disaster recovery disappear, especially in the home and small-business
> space.
> No excuses, no mumbling about "third-party partners", no shuffling of the
> hands. Just make the issue disappear. If users lose data on the Windows 7
> platform, for whatever reason, then consider it to be solely your fault,
> not
> theirs.
>
> 10 Make third-party software vendors toe the line
> It's time to get tough on the third-party vendors whose products are in
> the
> "weak to dreadful" sector. I'm tired of third-party apps that muscle their
> way into my system and attempt to take over. Publish a style guide and
> stick
> to it. Make it part of the logo compliance, and make logo compliance part
> of
> the digital-signing regime.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

=?Utf-8?B?cGF1bGI=?= <> wrote in
news:E5FD12A4-9612-4983-A603-:

> 6 Fix the storage mess and support all formats
> It will be 2010 and we’ll still be stuck on an old-fashioned, if
> reliable and trusty, file system in NTFS. Do we want drive letters?
> No. Do we even want to see drive volumes? No. Give us properly
> self-managing, reliable storage that can auto-grow.

You do not have the authority to state what 'we' or 'us' want.

If you don't recall, WinFS, a new file system was supposed to power
Vista, but, that was ripped when MS decided it couldn't make the schedule
with WinFS in there.

> Something that can
> make sure our information is on more than one spindle. But make it
> completely transparent.

Isn't that what hardware-based raid >0 is for ?


> And don’t force Windows-centric file formats
> down our throat every five minutes.
>
> 7 Give us the powerful and long-promised Assistants
> Remember all those promises about software that would notice what you
> were doing, learn from it, and make good suggestions? I don’t mean
> the laughable Clippy or Dog, I mean tools that are constantly scanning
> what you’re doing, your diary and email, and can automate your
> repetitive work processes. It’s about time these things delivered to
> the mainstream.

<sarcasm>
Yes, like MS has a long-proven track record of being able to predict what
it's users will want to do, and automatically do it, and do it well.
</sarcasm>

<SNIP>

> 10 Make third-party software vendors toe the line
> It’s time to get tough on the third-party vendors whose products are
> in the “weak to dreadful� sector. I’m tired of third-party apps
> that muscle their way into my system and attempt to take over.

Why do you install them ?

> Publish
> a style guide and stick to it. Make it part of the logo compliance,
> and make logo compliance part of the digital-signing regime.

If any and all software would require digital signing and MS
certification, say goodbye to all the ISD/V's out there that develop
software products for windows.

This would be a truly sad thing, as the big corporation software
developers may be the only ones left. Is that what you want ?

>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
> the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
> button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
> Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...n-us/default.m
> spx?mid=e5fd12a4-9612-4983-a603-c12ceb705a2b&dg=microsoft.public.window
> s.vista.general

This is all last century, Microsoft agitprop, the equivalent of changing the
drapes but not fixing the broken Window pane behind.
Vista is conceptually identical to every prior version of Windows, only
worse.
What is being proposed here is another 800 pound retarded gorilla insteady
of a modern OS.
32 vs 64 bit is a non-starter for real world uses and the least difficult
change to implement. An 8 cylinder engine is not necessarily better/faster
than a 6 cylinder engine.
Interface issues are a matter of taste and habit: they are all artificial
contrivances. Why not give users choices about GUI so they are responsible
for why they hate their computer? One of the enduring problems with Windows
and Apple OS is the rigidity of the interface: they both stink in this
regard.
The real revolution in OS design will come when all services that can be are
virtualized and there are background services, not add-on kludges,
patrolling against malware.

If you do not want N versions etc, you need to complain those that
sued and forced Microsoft to provide them
For practical purposes, there are 4 versions of Windows:
Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and Ultimate.
Windows XP also has 4 versions:
Home, Professional, Tablet and Media Center

32 bit will probably be gone soon enough.
But now is far to early, unless Microsoft wishes to get blamed yet
again to force people to upgrade their hardware.

Also, you are aware there is no expectation or requirement that anyone
from Microsoft see your suggestions?
Sometimes Microsoft posts here, but then they do so on their own time.
This is a good place to communicate with peers, but if you want
Microsoft to get the message, there are better, a few being:
http://feedback.windowsvista.microso...om/gp/cp_vista
And:
http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/?WS=Wish

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar



"paulb" <> wrote in message
news:E5FD12A4-9612-4983-A603-...
>1 True 3D rendered desktop
> The current Vista desktop is a compromise between new-world 3D
> rendering and
> compatibility with the old 2D world. This has to stop with Windows
> 7 – we
> need to see a fully 3D rendered space that’s just beautiful to use.
> It must
> ooze class, and really make use of the processor power available.
>
> 2 Make security work properly
> No, it isn’t good enough to have a weak username and password that
> never
> changes. Make Business users go for a third-party authentication
> system –
> smart card, fingerprint reader and so on. Make business laptops
> tighter in
> their default configuration. And make the home experience much more
> robust,
> with proper separation of data between parent and child on a shared
> device.
>
> 3 Only three versions, and no more 32-bit
> All this versionitis gives everyone a headache. Let’s have Home,
> Business
> and Ultimate. And that’s it. No mucking around with neutered N
> versions, Home
> Better, Business Lovely and Corporate Got-Most-Bits. The marketplace
> hasn’t
> been fooled by this obfuscation, so perform a gentlemanly climbdown,
> please.
> And while you’re at it, cut the 32-bit version. Some will be upset
> with this
> – tough. All today’s machines are 64-bit compatible, and keeping
> Windows 7 in
> 32-bit land is just pandering to the old school.
>
> 4 Remove the DRM; mandate signing for drivers & apps
> Vista is riddled with DRM, and it does it no good at all. The world
> is
> moving away from DRM, and Microsoft should get out of bed with the
> monopolists who want to mandate how, where and when content is
> viewed.
> Microsoft should stop viewing DRM as a profit centre. Meanwhile, it
> should
> come down hard on drivers and app vendors – driver and app signing
> should be
> mandatory for Windows 7. Mutton dressed as lamb has been foisted on
> the users
> for too long now, and it’s time for vendors to put up or shut up.
>
>
>
> 5 Make Speech and video recognition first-class
> Speech is one of those jam-tomorrow things – like Star Trek, we’re
> promised
> a future that never quite arrives. Meanwhile, millions are poured
> into
> Microsoft Research, and it’s time for it to deliver. Automatic face
> recognition from a webcam, for example: see what I’m doing, see
> whether I’m
> busy, listen to find out if I’m talking to someone.
>
>
> 6 Fix the storage mess and support all formats
> It will be 2010 and we’ll still be stuck on an old-fashioned, if
> reliable
> and trusty, file system in NTFS. Do we want drive letters? No. Do we
> even
> want to see drive volumes? No. Give us properly self-managing,
> reliable
> storage that can auto-grow. Something that can make sure our
> information is
> on more than one spindle. But make it completely transparent. And
> don’t force
> Windows-centric file formats down our throat every five minutes.
>
> 7 Give us the powerful and long-promised Assistants
> Remember all those promises about software that would notice what
> you were
> doing, learn from it, and make good suggestions? I don’t mean the
> laughable
> Clippy or Dog, I mean tools that are constantly scanning what you’re
> doing,
> your diary and email, and can automate your repetitive work
> processes. It’s
> about time these things delivered to the mainstream.
>
> 8 Offer a family pack
> Charging full price, or almost full price, for multiple installs in
> the same
> household is daylight robbery. Microsoft offered a family discount
> on Vista
> for US families with multiple PCs, so why not everywhere? Learn from
> the Home
> Student editions, and look at the success of Apple’s licensing
> model. Let
> people pay a fair price for a home-wide licence without feeling that
> they’ve
> been flayed alive.
>
> 9 Make backup, restore and disaster recovery go away
> Windows 7 must, repeat must, make the whole topic of backup, restore
> and
> disaster recovery disappear, especially in the home and
> small-business space.
> No excuses, no mumbling about “third-party partners�, no shuffling
> of the
> hands. Just make the issue disappear. If users lose data on the
> Windows 7
> platform, for whatever reason, then consider it to be solely your
> fault, not
> theirs.
>
> 10 Make third-party software vendors toe the line
> It’s time to get tough on the third-party vendors whose products are
> in the
> “weak to dreadful� sector. I’m tired of third-party apps that muscle
> their
> way into my system and attempt to take over. Publish a style guide
> and stick
> to it. Make it part of the logo compliance, and make logo compliance
> part of
> the digital-signing regime.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
> the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
> the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
> follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
> and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

How about just making USB drivers work properly? Forget the other stuff -
just get the basics right.

"Non-Flammable" on Ubuntu has spoken.

"flambe" <> wrote in message
newsd_qj.3861$ t...
> This is all last century, Microsoft agitprop, the equivalent of changing
> the drapes but not fixing the broken Window pane behind.
> Vista is conceptually identical to every prior version of Windows, only
> worse.
> What is being proposed here is another 800 pound retarded gorilla insteady
> of a modern OS.
> 32 vs 64 bit is a non-starter for real world uses and the least difficult
> change to implement. An 8 cylinder engine is not necessarily better/faster
> than a 6 cylinder engine.
> Interface issues are a matter of taste and habit: they are all artificial
> contrivances. Why not give users choices about GUI so they are responsible
> for why they hate their computer? One of the enduring problems with
> Windows and Apple OS is the rigidity of the interface: they both stink in
> this regard.
> The real revolution in OS design will come when all services that can be
> are virtualized and there are background services, not add-on kludges,
> patrolling against malware.
>

"AlexB" <> wrote in
news:#:

> "Non-Flammable" on Ubuntu has spoken.

Not on Ubuntu. Probably XP.

(Or an XP virtual image within an Ubuntu session.)








>
> "flambe" <> wrote in message
> newsd_qj.3861$ t...
>> This is all last century, Microsoft agitprop, the equivalent of
>> changing the drapes but not fixing the broken Window pane behind.
>> Vista is conceptually identical to every prior version of Windows,
>> only worse.
>> What is being proposed here is another 800 pound retarded gorilla
>> insteady of a modern OS.
>> 32 vs 64 bit is a non-starter for real world uses and the least
>> difficult change to implement. An 8 cylinder engine is not
>> necessarily better/faster than a 6 cylinder engine.
>> Interface issues are a matter of taste and habit: they are all
>> artificial contrivances. Why not give users choices about GUI so they
>> are responsible for why they hate their computer? One of the enduring
>> problems with Windows and Apple OS is the rigidity of the interface:
>> they both stink in this regard.
>> The real revolution in OS design will come when all services that can
>> be are virtualized and there are background services, not add-on
>> kludges, patrolling against malware.
>>
>

Everybody thinks they know what they want till it knocks on their doo
and they dial the cops... "We don't want any more of this 32-bi
nonsense! We hate the x86 instruction set! Oh, won't somebody help us i
our woe?" Step forward Intel, Itanium in hand, smile in place. "What'
that crud - what about our existing apps? Are we supposed to jus
jettison all our beautiful x86-based progs on your say-so? Just who th
hell do you think you are?" Same with Microsoft (and I'll let you hav
'Micro$oft' if you'll let me have 'App£e' and '$teve Job$'

--
AvatarOfTheShip

Rich T wrote:

> How about just making USB drivers work properly? Forget the other stuff -
> just get the basics right.

Microsoft hasn't succeeded in doing this from XP through Vista. Do you
really think they'll get it together with Windoze 7?

Cheers.

--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4...nceMonitor.jpg

AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator
and type lusrmgr.msc."
^^^^^
I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.