IE7 cumulative updates, KB944533

Over the past month, I have been issued with a total of six of these updates,
all with the same number.
1) Is this normal?
2) If so, what gives? By that I mean it would be far easier to track updates
if the number were revised each time.

Out here in semi-ignorant user-land, I'm left with the impression that
somehow this update is mysteriously vanishing, and continually needs
re-applying.

Thanks for any answers.

"markjoy" <> wrote in message
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> Over the past month, I have been issued with a total of six of these updates,
> all with the same number.
> 1) Is this normal?


It could be. Are you switching back to IE6? Trying the IE8 beta?


> 2) If so, what gives? By that I mean it would be far easier to track updates
> if the number were revised each time.


The most likely explanation is that one or more of the modules listed here
either aren't changing during the required boot or are somehow being changed later.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944533



>
> Out here in semi-ignorant user-land, I'm left with the impression that
> somehow this update is mysteriously vanishing, and continually needs
> re-applying.
>
> Thanks for any answers.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "markjoy" <> wrote in message
> news:ADD863FB-A6C0-4F1F-93C3-...
> > Over the past month, I have been issued with a total of six of these updates,
> > all with the same number.
> > 1) Is this normal?
>
>
> It could be. Are you switching back to IE6? Trying the IE8 beta?
>
>
> > 2) If so, what gives? By that I mean it would be far easier to track updates
> > if the number were revised each time.
>
>
> The most likely explanation is that one or more of the modules listed here
> either aren't changing during the required boot or are somehow being changed later.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944533
>
>
>
> >
> > Out here in semi-ignorant user-land, I'm left with the impression that
> > somehow this update is mysteriously vanishing, and continually needs
> > re-applying.
> >
> > Thanks for any answers.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
> No, I'm not using IE6, nor IE8B. There is no indication of a requirement to reboot followong this update being applied.
Can you give me a hint as to how the KB article you linked to might assist,
here?

Interesting that 4 people rated the OP as useful, that could mean it's not
an isolated ocurrence.

"markjoy" <> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
>> "markjoy" <> wrote in message
>> news:ADD863FB-A6C0-4F1F-93C3-...
>> > Over the past month, I have been issued with a total of six of these updates,
>> > all with the same number.
>> > 1) Is this normal?
>>
>>
>> It could be. Are you switching back to IE6? Trying the IE8 beta?
>>
>>
>> > 2) If so, what gives? By that I mean it would be far easier to track updates
>> > if the number were revised each time.
>>
>>
>> The most likely explanation is that one or more of the modules listed here
>> either aren't changing during the required boot or are somehow being changed later.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944533
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Out here in semi-ignorant user-land, I'm left with the impression that
>> > somehow this update is mysteriously vanishing, and continually needs
>> > re-applying.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any answers.
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Robert Aldwinckle
>> ---
>>
>>
>> No, I'm not using IE6, nor IE8B.

> There is no indication of a requirement to reboot followong this update being applied.


You should have been prompted at the end of the install.
The relevant button may be labeled Restart, (implies reboot.)
If you didn't even see a prompt it could mean that your administrator
is going to handle this for you or it could mean that the install didn't complete. Etc.


> Can you give me a hint as to how the KB article you linked to might assist,
> here?

Find the list of modules which applies to your version of the OS.
Then check the version of each one after the reboot.

To save you some time here is the list of modules which were definitely delayed
from update until the reboot in my case:

<KB944533-IE7.log>
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\wininet.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\webcheck.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\urlmon.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\url.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\mshtml.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\msfeedsbs.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\msfeeds.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\iertutil.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\ieframe.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\ieapfltr.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\icardie.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: IsRebootRequiredForFileQueue: f:\windows\system32\advpack.dll was delayed; reboot is required.
67.717: DoInstallation: A reboot is required to complete the installation of one or more files.

</KB944533-IE7.log>

So you could check those or find your own log and check the ones that it lists.


>
> Interesting that 4 people rated the OP as useful, that could mean it's not
> an isolated ocurrence.


What it means is that people misuse that feature of the ratings and treat it
as a vote for interest in the discussion, not whether there is anything useful there.
I wish that an opening post, especially a question, could not be voted on.
It would improve the value of the Helpful post search filter.


HTH

Robert
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Windows version? What anti-virus application or security suite is
installed? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What
third-party firewall (if any)? What happens when you try to install
KB944533? Does windowsupdate.log list any Errors associated with the failed
installs?
======================
Tip: Temporarily disable real-time protection by your anti-virus and/or
anti-spyware applications (e.g., CounterSpy, Spysweeper, Spybot, AVG
Anti-Spyware) and/or any third-party firewall (e.g., ZA) before attempting
to install the update(s). If you disable a third-party firewall, do NOT
connect to the internet without having the Windows Firewall enabled!
======================
Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527

Support for Windows Update:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport

For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY in
the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with
security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related
to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB123456).

!!! => If your problem relates to a Cumulative Security Update for IE, call
the above number and ask to be transferred to the Consumer IE7 queue (which
is 47830). <= !!!

For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
your usual support contacts.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.net


markjoy wrote:
> Over the past month, I have been issued with a total of six of these
> updates, all with the same number.
> 1) Is this normal?
> 2) If so, what gives? By that I mean it would be far easier to track
> updates
> if the number were revised each time.
>
> Out here in semi-ignorant user-land, I'm left with the impression that
> somehow this update is mysteriously vanishing, and continually needs
> re-applying.
>
> Thanks for any answers.

Thanks, Robert, that answers the question.
No network admin, here, it's a home desktop PC, standalone.
There has been no "restart/reboot" prompt at any stage following this
update. (I have come to expect a prompt when this is required) in future I
shall reboot and see what happens.
Must admit, was somewhat surprised that 4 users had found the OP "useful",
which I took to mean, as you suggest, a level of interest. Although not
technically a correct use of the "find this useful" button, I totally
understand the use of it.
>

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Windows version? What anti-virus application or security suite is
> installed? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What
> third-party firewall (if any)? What happens when you try to install
> KB944533? Does windowsupdate.log list any Errors associated with the failed
> installs?
> ======================
> Tip: Temporarily disable real-time protection by your anti-virus and/or
> anti-spyware applications (e.g., CounterSpy, Spysweeper, Spybot, AVG
> Anti-Spyware) and/or any third-party firewall (e.g., ZA) before attempting
> to install the update(s). If you disable a third-party firewall, do NOT
> connect to the internet without having the Windows Firewall enabled!
> ======================
> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527
>
> Support for Windows Update:
> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport
>
> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY in
> the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
> subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with
> security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related
> to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB123456).
>
> !!! => If your problem relates to a Cumulative Security Update for IE, call
> the above number and ask to be transferred to the Consumer IE7 queue (which
> is 47830). <= !!!
>
> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>
> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
> your usual support contacts.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.net
>
> Thank you PAbear, shall try ringing MS should it happen again, and the restart fails to remedy the situation.
>
>

"markjoy" wrote:

>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Windows version?
XP home SP2.
What anti-virus application or security suite is
> > installed?
Avast home
What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
Threatfire, Spywareterminator, the former a recent installation.
>What third-party firewall (if any)?
Comod 2.4
What happens when you try to install
> > KB944533?
It downloads, prompts to install, installs, then gives the message
"instalation complete", or words to that effect. No hint of trouble. It does
not prompt a restart.
Does windowsupdate.log list any Errors associated with the failed
> > installs?
No, none, it records six successful installations of the same update.
> > ======================
> > Tip: Temporarily disable real-time protection by your anti-virus and/or
> > anti-spyware applications (e.g., CounterSpy, Spysweeper, Spybot, AVG
> > Anti-Spyware) and/or any third-party firewall (e.g., ZA) before attempting
> > to install the update(s). If you disable a third-party firewall, do NOT
> > connect to the internet without having the Windows Firewall enabled!
> > ======================
> > Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
> > https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527
> >
> > Support for Windows Update:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport
> >
> > For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY in
> > the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
> > subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with
> > security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related
> > to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB123456).
> >
> > !!! => If your problem relates to a Cumulative Security Update for IE, call
> > the above number and ask to be transferred to the Consumer IE7 queue (which
> > is 47830). <= !!!
> >
> > For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
> > for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
> > site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
> >
> > For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
> > your usual support contacts.
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> > AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.net
> >
> > Thank you PAbear, shall try ringing MS should it happen again, and the restart fails to remedy the situation.
> >
> >

>> What third-party firewall (if any)?
>
> Comod 2.4

See if upgrading to Comodo v3.0.15.277 or higher (i.e., v3.0.19.318)
resolves the issues.

See
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...770624ef809651

Comodo Firewall Pro - Release Notes
http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.c...ase_notes.html
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


markjoy wrote:
>>> Windows version?
> XP home SP2.
> What anti-virus application or security suite is
>>> installed?
> Avast home
> What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
> Threatfire, Spywareterminator, the former a recent installation.
>> What third-party firewall (if any)?
> Comod 2.4
> What happens when you try to install
>>> KB944533?
> It downloads, prompts to install, installs, then gives the message
> "instalation complete", or words to that effect. No hint of trouble. It
> does
> not prompt a restart.
> Does windowsupdate.log list any Errors associated with the failed
>>> installs?
> No, none, it records six successful installations of the same update.
>>> ======================
>>> Tip: Temporarily disable real-time protection by your anti-virus and/or
>>> anti-spyware applications (e.g., CounterSpy, Spysweeper, Spybot, AVG
>>> Anti-Spyware) and/or any third-party firewall (e.g., ZA) before
>>> attempting
>>> to install the update(s). If you disable a third-party firewall, do NOT
>>> connect to the internet without having the Windows Firewall enabled!
>>> ======================
>>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527
>>>
>>> Support for Windows Update:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport
>>>
>>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
>>> in
>>> the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
>>> subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated
>>> with
>>> security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is
>>> related
>>> to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB123456).
>>>
>>> !!! => If your problem relates to a Cumulative Security Update for IE,
>>> call
>>> the above number and ask to be transferred to the Consumer IE7 queue
>>> (which
>>> is 47830). <= !!!
>>>
>>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft
>>> subsidiary
>>> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
>>> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>>>
>>> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available
>>> through
>>> your usual support contacts.
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.net
>>>
>>> Thank you PAbear, shall try ringing MS should it happen again, and the
>>> restart fails to remedy the situation.

"markjoy" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks, Robert, that answers the question.
> No network admin, here, it's a home desktop PC, standalone.
> There has been no "restart/reboot" prompt at any stage following this
> update. (I have come to expect a prompt when this is required) in future I
> shall reboot and see what happens.


I wonder if a Home version doesn't get a prompt then?
I know that there are other Administrator-related features which
are not present in that OS.

Did you look at your log, e.g. see if you had lines in it similar to the ones
I showed you? To be clear about what is happening you could post it.
FWIW mine is only 350 lines.


HTH

Robert
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