ie8 problems

Hi RoBear,

Would you like to take a bet that the Jedab's issue is AOL related?

It is still hard to read minds over the internet despite Win7's excellent
Troubleshooting tools.

I don't think I will be there in February to collect from ya.

Regards.

"In the internet nobody knows you're a dog"

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> <canned>
> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode?
>
> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
> Explorer (No add-ons).
>
> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>
> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737
>
> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than
> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
>
> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
> it)?
> </canned>
>
>
> jedab wrote:
>> i have NON of the following happenning...
>> Next have a look at your Windows Startup list (Start>Run>msconfig -
>> Statup
>> tab) (there are some 'IE' addons that are launched from here but do not
>> appear in IE's Addons list... they hijack IE's open connections to call
>> home
>> to check for updates and this CAN look like a malware attack to IE8 on
>> XPSP3, Vista and Win7). The symptoms of this is random new tab crashing.
>> Random because the call home instructions are triggered by different
>> settings (weekly, monthly, if last check failed etc).
>>
>> Disable any AOL Updates (AOL LLC), Quicktime Updates, Google Updates,
>> Search
>> Protection (Yahoo Inc), and the Gmail Notifier (if present).
>> (AOL and Quicktime software have settings to enable/disable automatic
>> updates in their respective Control Panels (Settings Dialogs).
>> aol is on ONLY ONE of the computers...i dont allow ANY automatic
>> updates...not even windows....i check for updates daily and i dont have
>> anything yahoo or google on any machine.
>>
>> the troubleshooter says no issues present and i get this problem before i
>> even install flash or quicktime or ANYTHING...
>>
>> the machines are 32 bit....
>> windows vista with 1.5 gig ram with ie8 downloaded and installed.
>> HAD the problem in windows 7 beta but not using that now.one with 1.5
>> gigs
>> ram and one with 3 gigs ram
>> HAD the problem in windows 7 rc but not using that now.one with 1.5 gig
>> ram
>> and one with 3 gigs ram
>> HAD the problem in windows 7 rtm but not using it now.one with 1.5gig ram
>> and one with 3 gigs ram
>> HAVE the problem in a store bought windows 7 with 3 gigs ram
>> have the problem on a bought upgrade windows 7 with 1.5 gigs ram
>> friends with bought windows 7 with 1 and 1.5 gigs ram
>> all but the upgrade is a fresh install.
>> either avg free or no av (only on one machine)
>> none came with win7 pre-installed...we all formatted and started fresh
>> because we LOVE windows 7 (except for the upgrade)
>> the problem is from "day one" even before doing windows updates.before
>> installing av software. and after with or without aol software...ive
>> formatted and re-installed numerous times now.
>> doesnt matter if no add-ons or setting reset.
>> this has been an issue since i started using windows 7 from beta
>> versions,
>> so its been around a year now which is why i am at this newsgroup because
>> this is the first time since winME that i cant solve some computer issue
>> that has popped-up on mine or a friends machine.
>>
>> we all have the same problem which is...
>> i ALWAYS "open in new window".
>> the second and third window work fine..but when i open a fourth window
>> either from the original FIRST or as a "child" from the second or third
>> "instance" of ie8 the problem starts...of course i can always just copy
>> and
>> paste the url into the first ie window but then i move away from the
>> original page i wnted to not navigate away from. and of course i can just
>> close ie and start over again. and it doesnt matter if its in a new
>> window
>> or new tab...both actions cause the issue by the 4th OPEN. like i
>> said...im
>> not a computer expert nor am i a computer idiot, but if i need to ask for
>> help it is a real issue and my proof is that ive not had to ask for help
>> since windows millennium.
>> thank you all for your help and advice and i hope i have given all the
>> info
>> you might need to think about my issue since many heads are better than
>> one.
>> thank you agaijn, everyone.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> Uh-huh...
>>>
>>> And you're all running Win7?
>>>
>>> Are you all running Win7 64-bit?
>>>
>>> Did you upgrade to Win7 or are these all brand-new computers with Win7
>>> preinstalled?
>>>
>>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
>>> subscription current, and is it supported in Win7? What anti-spyware
>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you
>>> installed
>>> ___?
>>>
>>> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
>>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you
>>> bought
>>> it)?
>>>
>>> Does the behavior persist if you start IE8 in No Add-ons mode and/or do
>>> a
>>> Reset?
>>>
>>>
>>> jedab wrote:
>>>> i and all of my friends have this problem.
>>>> ie8 with windows 7.
>>>> ie8 cant handle multiple pages or tabs...by this i mean....
>>>> when i have multiple ie windows OR tabs running, SOME of them suddenly
>>>> seems
>>>> to NOT load but if i copy the address from the not responsive window or
>>>> tab
>>>> and paste it into the original window, ie8 loads the page.
>>>> im not a computer idiot, so spare me the usual add-ons and av and
>>>> malware
>>>> and spyware bs.
>>>> also on LOTS of sites (but never msn or other microsoft web pages
>>>> /sites)
>>>> ie8 takes FOREVER to load a page if it loads at all. its most noticable
>>>> with
>>>> facebook and new york times and filehippo and adobe to name a few.
>>>> being
>>>> slow to load also doesnt happen ALL the time, but it happens all the
>>>> time
>>>> with not responding with multiple tabs and / or multiple windows
>>>> starting
>>>> with the 3rd tab or window. it clears up when i close ie and then open
>>>> it
>>>> again, but then multiple "instances" (correct term?) cause the problem
>>>> all
>>>> over again
>>>
>>> .
>
>

want to bet its NOT aol as i have road runner as my isp NOT aol....and not a
single one of my friends who have this problem use aol either, just me and
the aol software is on my windows vista laptop only which has ie7, cuz till i
solve the ie8 issues on my other computers and my friends computers im not
putting it on.
and the operating systems that ie8 seems to not be working well on for me
and my friends are:
win7 premium
win7 professional
win7 ultimate
vista
xp home with all current sps
xp pro with all current sps
will everyone stop saying its all of our computers or isp or the like when
the issue seems to be only ie8. Windows 7 is fantastic, which is why i BOUGHT
2 versions, professional upgrade at a discount because of trying win7 from
beta to rtm and ultimate, because that the version of the betas and rc and
rtm i was using and am still using on one computer
seems like i am NOT the only one with ie8 issues.
and yes it occurs with no add-ons mode, as i have stated several times
already...doesnt make a difference no matter what ive done...and ive alswered
all the questions that pa bear asks...ive been going round and round with
this for around a year now and NOTHING helps...
so thank you all for your time and thoughts, but mr pa bears responses
remind me of microsoft bs.....i recall being told there was nothing glitchy
about winME....but hey, thats another story.
thank you everybody, but i suspect ie bugs and since ive done EVERYTHING
that you all have suggested AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and formatted and
started over and tweaked nothing and tweaked everything and did all updates
and used ie8 before any updates, yadda yadda yadda im stuck with an ie i hope
ms will fix cuz i hated firefox in the past and dont wanna try it again nor
do i wanna try another other browser since ive always been happy with ie
until version 8.
happy holidays everyone, thank you so much for yout time, but i wont be
checking here for this issue again.

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:39:01 -0800, jedab wrote:

> will everyone stop saying its all of our computers or isp or the like when
> the issue seems to be only ie8.

Because the issue is not "IE8", it is 'jedab's installation of "IE8". Too
many people are not having your issues with IE8 for it to be a generic IE8
problem.

I can match you, friend for friend, with people who aren't having troubles.
If three other posters have the same scope of friends as we, and only you,
and your cohort are having troubles, that is at least four times as many
people not have troubles as having them. And I will make a SWAG that there
are more than three posters with the same scope of friends as we, not one
having your problems.

> ... i recall being told there was nothing glitchy
> about winME....but hey, thats another story.

I remember all the fuss about how horrible Windows ME was. I did not have
any problem with ME, other than the basic 9x Achilles's heel of system
resources. Afflicted all versions of the Windows 9x family, all the way back
to Windows 95.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Hi jb,

By chance have you given your friends copies of your Beta Tester
complementary copies of Win7 RTM?

Before installing the RTM Beta Testers Complementary Builds you should have
been instructed to uninstall and reformat your previous Beta versions.

You may find joy posting your questions to the connect.microsoft.com Win7
Beta testers Newsgroups. You will also find the EULA and your unique
Activation Keys there.

Regards.

"jedab" <> wrote in message
news8ADC157-217D-454B-91C8-...
> i and all of my friends have this problem.
> ie8 with windows 7.
> ie8 cant handle multiple pages or tabs...by this i mean....
> when i have multiple ie windows OR tabs running, SOME of them suddenly
> seems
> to NOT load but if i copy the address from the not responsive window or
> tab
> and paste it into the original window, ie8 loads the page.
> im not a computer idiot, so spare me the usual add-ons and av and malware
> and spyware bs.
> also on LOTS of sites (but never msn or other microsoft web pages /sites)
> ie8 takes FOREVER to load a page if it loads at all. its most noticable
> with
> facebook and new york times and filehippo and adobe to name a few. being
> slow to load also doesnt happen ALL the time, but it happens all the time
> with not responding with multiple tabs and / or multiple windows starting
> with the 3rd tab or window. it clears up when i close ie and then open it
> again, but then multiple "instances" (correct term?) cause the problem all
> over again

its funny rob, how everyone seems to miss the part where ive formatted and
re-installed windows 7 all over again , several times over, NOT just
re-installed win7 ontop of win7, which i didnt know you can do, all this time
i thought i HAD to format and install unless doing an upgrade. and i dont see
how the issue is "my installation" of ie8 since ie8 is a part of win7, not a
separate download for win7...but it potentially can be the installation on my
friends computers who have downloaded and installed ie8 under windows vista
and windows xp, but they have the same issue...after opening either window 4
or tab 4 the newer tabs or windows stop doing anything even tho the older
windows / tabs works fine. ie8 has never crashed on us, its just after 4 or
more "instances" the newest ones dont "work". kinda reminds me of MANY years
ago when i had to tweak ie to have "more connections" so i could have
multiple web pages open at one time, and that "fix" was found on one of the
microsoft support pages for internet explorer. i had to change a setting to
allow 10 connections...i think that was back in win95 but it could have been
one of the win98s it was too long ago to remember. i guess ill have to live
with not opening more than 3 separate ie8 windows but since i usually have 3
computers running at a time i guess i can have 3 open windows on each
computer. i would consider posting to the win7 beta site but im not using a
beta now i am using store bought win7 ( i thought win7 was worth buying so i
bought one upgrade and one ultimate to have it on two of my computers) and im
not having any issues with win7, just ie8. is there an ie8 only newsgroup i
might post to?
oh...and none of my friends have used a beta of win7...they bought a copy
when it came out because of how much i raved how great win7 is and they
formatted and installed fresh and when we "compared notes" on our thoughts of
win7 we all had the same complaint...ie8 after opening several web pages.
oh...and while doing beta testing, i recall getting emails from microsoft
asking what i thought and i recall emails from microsoft asking what i feel
is ready for the rtm and what needs more work and i always said ie8 doesnt
work as well for me as ie7 and isnt ready for the rtm.
wow...i havent spent so much time and effort to solve any computer issue
since 1991 when i got my first computer, phew<wipe brow>
LOL
i appreciate every moment of thought youve put into this, i really do, thank
you so very much.

<yawn>

jedab wrote:
> its funny rob, how everyone seems to miss the part where...

that is exactly how i felt about your posts on this matter

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> <yawn>

at least rob tries to be of help

"jedab" <> wrote in message news:F8D5DA59-AFCD-48BF-85BA-...

> will everyone stop saying its all of our computers or isp or the like when
> the issue seems to be only ie8.

Then you will have to do some diagnosis and refine your symptom
description to make others see things your way too.
Doing that may even help you find usable workarounds for them.


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---

i found the solution to my ie8 issue rob....on the microsoft corporation web
site.
it seems there is a known issue with the amount of connections ie8 allows
and there is a fix, which i have downloaded, saved and applied and lo and
behold i have opened 8 separate web pages and they all respond as fast as i
would expect.seems ie8 was allowing 6 connections, which i suspect is 3 pages
with crash recovery for each page, and i kept saying i have trouble with more
than 3 open instances of ie8.
now i shall share this fix from microsoft with my other computers and my
friends.

i found the solution to my ie8 issue....on the microsoft corporation web
site.
it seems there is a known issue with the amount of connections ie8 allows
and there is a fix, which i have downloaded, saved and applied and lo and
behold i have opened 8 separate web pages and they all respond as fast as i
would expect.seems ie8 was allowing 6 connections, which i suspect is 3 pages
with crash recovery for each page, and i kept saying i have trouble with more
than 3 open instances of ie8.
now i shall share this fix from microsoft with my other computers and my
friends.


"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>
> "jedab" <> wrote in message news:F8D5DA59-AFCD-48BF-85BA-...
>
> > will everyone stop saying its all of our computers or isp or the like when
> > the issue seems to be only ie8.
>
> Then you will have to do some diagnosis and refine your symptom
> description to make others see things your way too.
> Doing that may even help you find usable workarounds for them.
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
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>
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