if you are gonna complain, be fair!

Oh Tiberius is a troll
Oh Tiberius is a vista hater
Oh Tiberius is so negative, a naysayer, he insults everyone !!!

whine whine whine whine!

Ok complain about me all you like (although you are totally incorrect)...
but you ALSO must complain about :

VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK

See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...

I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?

Well I guess because he likes vista? OH! So if you are an idiot, and you
insult everyone, its ok
as long as you love vista? But Tiberius? He is the bad guy because he thinks
vista is a pile of CRAP?

What does diehard vistaboy MVP Jupiter Jones have to say about this?

He is on my back whining because I bash vista... I don't see him on Franks
back, even though
he never helps anyone (yes I bash vista but I help people in here and anyway
the so called vistabashing is really
providing the truth to people about vista) he lies, he calls people names,
he insults, he starts endless flamewars
of never-ending threads....

I can say more about other freakshow vistadiehard worshipers... but Frank is
really a good example of
the way MVPs in care not about order and helping as they CLAIM. But only
about forcing their opinion about Crapista
on everyone else, and stomping out all other opinions about vista.

You are not in luck. Vista is going down..

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:13 +0200, "Tie Various"
<> wrote:


>VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>
>See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>
>I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?

Because Frank as dumb and obnoxious as he is, IS an unabashed Vista
fanboy. So no matter out rude or crude everyone's favorite fool acts,
birds of feather flock together. That's why I have little respect for
the MVP gang or other fanboys. They don't deserve any because they
play favorites and refuse to have discussions based on facts and are
totally blind to all the things people all over the globe have
reported. That reduces this newsgroup to a circus, sometimes a freak
show where Frank has a staring role. While some people perhaps get
their questions answered, the signal to noise ratio is way too high,
making this group next to useless for it's intended purpose. ;-)

No matter what the idiot Frank or others like him say, others pretend
he didn't or just shrug their shoulders and say so what. Therefore
they have zero creditability because if anybody presents factual
evidence on all the dumb things Vista does or on some of Microsoft's
checkered history or questionable practices they only admit after
getting caught red handed, the fanboy gang immediately lines up to
attack as a group and blindly defend Microsoft. Entertaining maybe,
but also foolish.

MVPs also see other MVPs mouthing off and be rude and condescending to
posters. Again the few good ones do nothing, say nothing. However
anybody points out how rude some MVP acts like Jupiter, and mum is the
word.

So enjoy this newsgroup for what it is. Just entertainment and for
some odd reason it acts as a magnet to drawn newsgroup crazies from
all over Usenet.

But you are also a part of the flame fanning. If you could just consolidate
the bashing and use your knowledge to help others solve their problems we
all could be more productive in here. I have seen you answered some post
with really good information. Why can't you just continue on that path
instead of turning every thread into 'Flame Wars' prequels and sequels?
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:13 +0200, "Tie Various"
> <> wrote:
>
>
>>VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>>
>>See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>>
>>I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?
>
> Because Frank as dumb and obnoxious as he is, IS an unabashed Vista
> fanboy. So no matter out rude or crude everyone's favorite fool acts,
> birds of feather flock together. That's why I have little respect for
> the MVP gang or other fanboys. They don't deserve any because they
> play favorites and refuse to have discussions based on facts and are
> totally blind to all the things people all over the globe have
> reported. That reduces this newsgroup to a circus, sometimes a freak
> show where Frank has a staring role. While some people perhaps get
> their questions answered, the signal to noise ratio is way too high,
> making this group next to useless for it's intended purpose. ;-)
>
> No matter what the idiot Frank or others like him say, others pretend
> he didn't or just shrug their shoulders and say so what. Therefore
> they have zero creditability because if anybody presents factual
> evidence on all the dumb things Vista does or on some of Microsoft's
> checkered history or questionable practices they only admit after
> getting caught red handed, the fanboy gang immediately lines up to
> attack as a group and blindly defend Microsoft. Entertaining maybe,
> but also foolish.
>
> MVPs also see other MVPs mouthing off and be rude and condescending to
> posters. Again the few good ones do nothing, say nothing. However
> anybody points out how rude some MVP acts like Jupiter, and mum is the
> word.
>
> So enjoy this newsgroup for what it is. Just entertainment and for
> some odd reason it acts as a magnet to drawn newsgroup crazies from
> all over Usenet.
>
>

"Oh Tiberius is..."
All three well describe you at various times.
You need to personally attack others as only a troll needs.
You regularly change your name in a vain effort to hide and escape as
only a troll.
You focus on the negatives regularly lacking facts and ignore requests
to provide as a troll.
No one says there are no negatives, but some you suggest can not be
proven.
"he insults everyone "
Perhaps you do, but you do attack and insult others who disagree with
you.
When you lack facts, you compensate with your attacks.

"whining because I bash vista"
Look again and you will see my comments are about your personal
attacks on others.
Also about your statements you make which you can rarely prove.
Your statements using words such as "all" which are obviously FALSE to
most everyone except you.
You need others to produce the sources you seldom know of.
Your inability to comment without personal attacks is your real
problem.

"diehard vistaboy"
More of your useless labels.
Used by those that are insecure and need something, anything to
devalue others when facts will not or other insecurities make it to
difficult.

"have to say about this"
I find it interesting that you feel that way about Frank and at the
same time use him as the standard for everyone to compare you.
Both of you come up about the same.
So when that is your standard, I can see why you see yourself so well.
When you have a standard you consider low, no wonder you achieve what
you do.
I have said it before, you need to rise above. , Are you able?
Or will you continue to need to prop your views with personal attacks
in the vain hope they cover your shortcomings?
Change your standard.

"freakshow vistadiehard worshipers"
A typical example of the way you help others.
Unable to control yourself enough to deal with issues without
attacking others.

"vistabashing is really providing the truth"
Then provide sources when requested, otherwise it is nothing more than
your bashing hiding as your opinion , NOT a fact.
Your normal response is a personal attack.

"But only about forcing their opinion"
No one is forcing any opinion on anyone.
Ones opinion is ones own.
If you allow an opinion to be forced on you, that is a problem you
have to deal with and this newsgroup can not help.

"He is the bad guy because..."
That is your description of yourself and I see little reason to
dispute you.

"You are not in luck. Vista is going down."
I will agree only partly.
True, I am not in luck.
Because there is no such thing as luck, good or bad.
Those who rely on luck are setting themselves up to fail since they
rely on the nonexistent.
Perhaps you would succeed more if you dropped your dependence on the
mythical luck.
Windows Vista runs well on two older computers here and countless
others.
But then unlike yours, my computers are not dependant on luck.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Tie Various" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Oh Tiberius is a troll
> Oh Tiberius is a vista hater
> Oh Tiberius is so negative, a naysayer, he insults everyone !!!
>
> whine whine whine whine!
>
> Ok complain about me all you like (although you are totally
> incorrect)... but you ALSO must complain about :
>
> VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>
> See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>
> I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?
>
> Well I guess because he likes vista? OH! So if you are an idiot, and
> you insult everyone, its ok
> as long as you love vista? But Tiberius? He is the bad guy because
> he thinks vista is a pile of CRAP?
>
> What does diehard vistaboy MVP Jupiter Jones have to say about this?
>
> He is on my back whining because I bash vista... I don't see him on
> Franks back, even though
> he never helps anyone (yes I bash vista but I help people in here
> and anyway the so called vistabashing is really
> providing the truth to people about vista) he lies, he calls people
> names, he insults, he starts endless flamewars
> of never-ending threads....
>
> I can say more about other freakshow vistadiehard worshipers... but
> Frank is really a good example of
> the way MVPs in care not about order and helping as they CLAIM. But
> only about forcing their opinion about Crapista
> on everyone else, and stomping out all other opinions about vista.
>
> You are not in luck. Vista is going down.

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:13 +0200, "Tie Various"
> <> wrote:
>
>
>> VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>>
>> See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>>
>> I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?
>
> Because Frank as dumb and obnoxious as he is, IS an unabashed Vista
> fanboy. So no matter out rude or crude everyone's favorite fool acts,
> birds of feather flock together.

This is the Vista nest. It's reasonable for Vista birds to be here and
understandable that they object to interlopers. Particularily those with
dirty feet.


> That's why I have little respect for
> the MVP gang or other fanboys. They don't deserve any because they
> play favorites and refuse to have discussions based on facts and are
> totally blind to all the things people all over the globe have
> reported. That reduces this newsgroup to a circus, sometimes a freak
> show where Frank has a staring role.

Frank is the designated Vista nest bouncer. If you don't approve of his
comments, don't visit our nest.

>
> So enjoy this newsgroup for what it is. Just entertainment and for
> some odd reason it acts as a magnet to drawn newsgroup crazies from
> all over Usenet.

We know your agenda. But cluttering this Vista nest, by being nasty, you
hope to discourage or confuse those who need help, thereby (in your mind)
diminishing Vista popularity.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:15:13 -0500, "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]"
<> wrote:

>But you are also a part of the flame fanning. If you could just consolidate
>the bashing and use your knowledge to help others solve their problems we
>all could be more productive in here. I have seen you answered some post
>with really good information. Why can't you just continue on that path
>instead of turning every thread into 'Flame Wars' prequels and sequels?

Why aren't you telling Frank this?

You just confirmed what I said.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:43:21 -0500, "HeyBub" <> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:13 +0200, "Tie Various"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>>>
>>> See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>>>
>>> I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?
>>
>> Because Frank as dumb and obnoxious as he is, IS an unabashed Vista
>> fanboy. So no matter out rude or crude everyone's favorite fool acts,
>> birds of feather flock together.
>
>This is the Vista nest. It's reasonable for Vista birds to be here and
>understandable that they object to interlopers. Particularily those with
>dirty feet.

Again, typical.
>
>> That's why I have little respect for
>> the MVP gang or other fanboys. They don't deserve any because they
>> play favorites and refuse to have discussions based on facts and are
>> totally blind to all the things people all over the globe have
>> reported. That reduces this newsgroup to a circus, sometimes a freak
>> show where Frank has a staring role.
>
>Frank is the designated Vista nest bouncer. If you don't approve of his
>comments, don't visit our nest.

It isn't your NEST. As a customer and user of Microsoft products I
have every bit as much right to post here as anyone. The fanboy crowd
doesn't like what I have to say because I can document what I say and
it doesn't always put Microsoft in a good light. I both praise and
scold Microsoft when it is appropriate. Fanboys only praise making
them look like apologists and butt kissers. By foolishly claiming this
newsgroup as your "nest" you confirm what I just said. You don't want
objective posts even if they are only slightly critical, you sure
don't want to see posts from people having problems, only those that
praise Microsoft and Vista to the highest are welcome in your cockeyed
world. How dumb is that?

>> So enjoy this newsgroup for what it is. Just entertainment and for
>> some odd reason it acts as a magnet to drawn newsgroup crazies from
>> all over Usenet.
>
>We know your agenda.

I have no agenda other than exposing the crackpots, fools and BS
artists for what they are. Heck, they do all the work, I just help
them see what they're doing. ;-)

>But cluttering this Vista nest, by being nasty, you
>hope to discourage or confuse those who need help, thereby (in your mind)
>diminishing Vista popularity.

That would be insane since I'm also a Microsoft stockholder and in
effect would be shooting myself in the foot. Unlike the idiot Frank
that quickly chimes in I have one share I assure you that you would
need to add several zeros after that "1".

Tie Various wrote:
> Oh Tiberius is a troll
> Oh Tiberius is a vista hater
> Oh Tiberius is so negative, a naysayer, he insults everyone !!!
>
> whine whine whine whine!
>
> Ok complain about me all you like (although you are totally incorrect)...
> but you ALSO must complain about :
>
> VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>
> See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>
> I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?
>
> Well I guess because he likes vista? OH! So if you are an idiot, and you
> insult everyone, its ok
> as long as you love vista? But Tiberius? He is the bad guy because he thinks
> vista is a pile of CRAP?
>
> What does diehard vistaboy MVP Jupiter Jones have to say about this?
>
> He is on my back whining because I bash vista... I don't see him on Franks
> back, even though
> he never helps anyone (yes I bash vista but I help people in here and anyway
> the so called vistabashing is really
> providing the truth to people about vista) he lies, he calls people names,
> he insults, he starts endless flamewars
> of never-ending threads....
>
> I can say more about other freakshow vistadiehard worshipers... but Frank is
> really a good example of
> the way MVPs in care not about order and helping as they CLAIM. But only
> about forcing their opinion about Crapista
> on everyone else, and stomping out all other opinions about vista.
>
> You are not in luck. Vista is going down..
>
>


Well, you've now entered the realm of being a delusion fool.
Good luck (you'll need it!)
Frank

HeyBub wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:13 +0200, "Tie Various"
>><> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>>>
>>>See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>>>
>>>I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?
>>
>>Because Frank as dumb and obnoxious as he is, IS an unabashed Vista
>>fanboy. So no matter out rude or crude everyone's favorite fool acts,
>>birds of feather flock together.
>
>
> This is the Vista nest. It's reasonable for Vista birds to be here and
> understandable that they object to interlopers. Particularily those with
> dirty feet.
>
>
>
>>That's why I have little respect for
>>the MVP gang or other fanboys. They don't deserve any because they
>>play favorites and refuse to have discussions based on facts and are
>>totally blind to all the things people all over the globe have
>>reported. That reduces this newsgroup to a circus, sometimes a freak
>>show where Frank has a staring role.
>
>
> Frank is the designated Vista nest bouncer. If you don't approve of his
> comments, don't visit our nest.

Yep! I'm the guy at the door...lol! :-)

what is this about nests? lol

vista nest?

the only nest vista-da-bloated-monster could fit in would be the elephant
birds nest, but that bird has been extinct since the 16th century!

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aepyornis




"HeyBub" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:13 +0200, "Tie Various"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> VistaBoy extraordinaire>> FRANK
>>>
>>> See what crap he is posting... really read his posts...
>>>
>>> I don't see anyone who is an MVP complaining about him.... WHY?
>>
>> Because Frank as dumb and obnoxious as he is, IS an unabashed Vista
>> fanboy. So no matter out rude or crude everyone's favorite fool acts,
>> birds of feather flock together.
>
> This is the Vista nest. It's reasonable for Vista birds to be here and
> understandable that they object to interlopers. Particularily those with
> dirty feet.
>
>
>> That's why I have little respect for
>> the MVP gang or other fanboys. They don't deserve any because they
>> play favorites and refuse to have discussions based on facts and are
>> totally blind to all the things people all over the globe have
>> reported. That reduces this newsgroup to a circus, sometimes a freak
>> show where Frank has a staring role.
>
> Frank is the designated Vista nest bouncer. If you don't approve of his
> comments, don't visit our nest.
>
>>
>> So enjoy this newsgroup for what it is. Just entertainment and for
>> some odd reason it acts as a magnet to drawn newsgroup crazies from
>> all over Usenet.
>
> We know your agenda. But cluttering this Vista nest, by being nasty, you
> hope to discourage or confuse those who need help, thereby (in your mind)
> diminishing Vista popularity.
>