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keokani;672202 Wrote: > When I click on Start, enter autochk.exe, then hit Enter, a window pops > up > with the following message: > > C:\Windows\system32\autochk.exe > > The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows > you’re running. Check your computer’s system information to see > whether you > need an x86 (32-bit) or x64 (64-bit) version of the program, and then > contact > the software publisher. > > This, in turn, prevents chkdsk.exe from running at startup. Hi Keokani, See if you can use one these autochk.exe versions from Step Two in this tutorial. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/13...tup-vista.html Shawn -- Brink *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*VISTA FORUMS*' *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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Dear Shawn,
I have already read the tutorial that you provided me, since it ranks the highest in any internet search of this topic. I have found that it is the most authoritative article addressing this issue. Wikipedia also corroborates the root cause of this problem of chkdsk.exe not running at startup, as being due to a problem with the autochk.exe file. Surprisingly, and unfortunately, the Microsoft and HP websites don't address this issue. It is sad that only third-party sources address this issue. Microsoft should take ownership of this issue and be at the forefront of it. The only way Microsoft addresses it, though, is indirectly through consumers (such as yourself) using its Vista Community forums. Anyway, I have not yet implemented step one or step two in this tutorial because I am not comfortable altering items in the registry editor, nor am I comfortable trying to take ownership of the autochk.exe file. The steps provided to take ownership of the file admit that you might have difficulties, which could open up another whole fiasco. When I open the file under the folder, C:\Windows\system32\autochk.exe, right-click on the file, click on Properties, then click on the Details tab, the following fields are left blank: File description, File version, Product name, Product version, Copyright, and Language. Therefore, if I do succeed in taking ownership of the file, won't I still not know which version of the file I have? If not, then I will not be able to complete step two of the tutorial, where it asks you to download a new copy of the version of the file that you already have. Furthermore, this tutorial is based on the assumption that your autochk.exe file is corrupted. However, I don't think that is my issue. Rather, as the error message indicates, I believe that I have the wrong version of the file for my operating system, which is the Windows Vista Ultimate, 64-bit version. Perhaps the file is designed for Windows Vista 32-bit versions instead.? Or perhaps it is designed for Windows XP and doesn't work with any Windows Vista operating systems at all? Today I started a support case for HP, the manufacturer of my computer, which is an HP Pavilion dv6700t CTO Notebook PC. I purchased and received this computer in February of this year (2008). I am awaiting their response and will update this discussion thread if and when they provide a proper solution. An appropriate solution to this specific problem needs to be documented, one that addresses the issue of having the incorrect version of the autochk.exe file, rather than a corrupted autochk.exe file, which the tutorial addresses. Both issues need to be confirmed and verified by the websites of Microsoft and computer manufacturers themselves, so that we know such procedures are valid and that we can trust them. If the tutorial came directly from Microsoft, then I would not have any hesitation to follow all of the steps outlined. However, since the best solution currently available is provided by a third-party website, I am reluctant to follow its instructions. Perhaps a future Windows Vista update, or the next service pack, will solve this issue. Obviously, Service Pack 1 for Vista did not correct the problem. Who knows how long it will be until the next service pack will come out, or if it will even fix the problem? My incorrect version of autochk will not allow me to run chkdsk, a huge liability that puts my computer at risk, preventing me from running this utility to fix file corruption, which will inevitably happen. It is only a matter of time. With Check Disk (chkdsk), however, these file corruptions can be prevented and repaired. Because of this vulnerability, my only recourse, currently, is to constantly back up my computer so that I can restore it every time a file corruption occurs. However, one should not be relegated to performing a full computer back up so often, because when you do such restorations, you lose the changes made to files and settings since the last backup. This is an undue inconvenience. Therefore, I will press HP, the manufacturer of my computer, to fix this problem immediately, or else I will ask that they let me return this product for a full refund. Alternatively, I think they could be sued for this problem, because they are distributing a defective product. If you purchase a computer and the Check Disk utility doesn't work, you have a defective product and you should be able to get your money back. Furthermore, they should be required to do a recall on such defective merchandise. In the meantime, any help that someone can contribute to this matter would be greatly appreciated. Together, I hope we can resolve this issue once and for all. "Brink" wrote: > > keokani;672202 Wrote: > > When I click on Start, enter autochk.exe, then hit Enter, a window pops > > up > > with the following message: > > > > C:\Windows\system32\autochk.exe > > > > The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows > > you’re running. Check your computer’s system information to see > > whether you > > need an x86 (32-bit) or x64 (64-bit) version of the program, and then > > contact > > the software publisher. > > > > This, in turn, prevents chkdsk.exe from running at startup. > > Hi Keokani, > > See if you can use one these autochk.exe versions from Step Two in this > tutorial. > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/13...tup-vista.html > > Shawn > > > -- > Brink > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask > them.* > '*VISTA FORUMS*' > *Please post feedback to help others.* > |
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keokani;672348 Wrote: > Dear Shawn > > I have already read the tutorial that you provided me, since it rank > th > highest in any internet search of this topic. I have found that it i > th > most authoritative article addressing this issue. Wikipedia als > corroborate > the root cause of this problem of chkdsk.exe not running at startup, a > bein > due to a problem with the autochk.exe file > > Surprisingly, and unfortunately, the Microsoft and HP websites don' > addres > this issue. It is sad that only third-party sources address this issue > Microsoft should take ownership of this issue and be at the forefron > of it > The only way Microsoft addresses it, though, is indirectly throug > consumer > (such as yourself) using its Vista Community forums > > Anyway, I have not yet implemented step one or step two in thi > tutoria > because I am not comfortable altering items in the registry editor, no > am > comfortable trying to take ownership of the autochk.exe file. The step > provided to take ownership of the file admit that you might hav > difficulties, which could open up another whole fiasco > > When I open the file under the folder, C:\Windows\system32\autochk.exe > right-click on the file, click on Properties, then click on the Detail > tab > the following fields are left blank: File description, File version > Produc > name, Product version, Copyright, and Language. Therefore, if I d > succeed i > taking ownership of the file, won't I still not know which version o > th > file I have? If not, then I will not be able to complete step two o > th > tutorial, where it asks you to download a new copy of the version o > the fil > that you already have > > Furthermore, this tutorial is based on the assumption that you > autochk.ex > file is corrupted. However, I don't think that is my issue. Rather, a > th > error message indicates, I believe that I have the wrong version of th > fil > for my operating system, which is the Windows Vista Ultimate, 64-bi > version > Perhaps the file is designed for Windows Vista 32-bit version > instead.? O > perhaps it is designed for Windows XP and doesn't work with any Window > Vist > operating systems at all > > Today I started a support case for HP, the manufacturer of my computer > which is an HP Pavilion dv6700t CTO Notebook PC. I purchased an > receive > this computer in February of this year (2008). I am awaiting thei > respons > and will update this discussion thread if and when they provide > prope > solution > > An appropriate solution to this specific problem needs to b > documented, on > that addresses the issue of having the incorrect version of th > autochk.ex > file, rather than a corrupted autochk.exe file, which the tutoria > addresses > Both issues need to be confirmed and verified by the websites o > Microsof > and computer manufacturers themselves, so that we know such procedure > ar > valid and that we can trust them. If the tutorial came directly fro > Microsoft, then I would not have any hesitation to follow all of th > step > outlined. However, since the best solution currently available i > provided b > a third-party website, I am reluctant to follow its instructions > > Perhaps a future Windows Vista update, or the next service pack, wil > solv > this issue. Obviously, Service Pack 1 for Vista did not correct th > problem > Who knows how long it will be until the next service pack will com > out, o > if it will even fix the problem > > My incorrect version of autochk will not allow me to run chkdsk, a hug > liability that puts my computer at risk, preventing me from runnin > thi > utility to fix file corruption, which will inevitably happen. It i > only > matter of time. With Check Disk (chkdsk), however, these fil > corruptions ca > be prevented and repaired > > Because of this vulnerability, my only recourse, currently, is t > constantl > back up my computer so that I can restore it every time a fil > corruptio > occurs. However, one should not be relegated to performing a ful > computer > back up so often, because when you do such restorations, you lose the > changes > made to files and settings since the last backup. This is an undue > inconvenience. > > Therefore, I will press HP, the manufacturer of my computer, to fix > this > problem immediately, or else I will ask that they let me return this > product > for a full refund. Alternatively, I think they could be sued for this > problem, because they are distributing a defective product. If you > purchase a > computer and the Check Disk utility doesn't work, you have a defective > product and you should be able to get your money back. Furthermore, > they > should be required to do a recall on such defective merchandise. > > In the meantime, any help that someone can contribute to this matter > would > be greatly appreciated. Together, I hope we can resolve this issue once > and > for all. > > "Brink" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > keokani;672202 Wrote: > > > > > > Hi Keokani, > > > > > > See if you can use one these autochk.exe versions from Step Two in > > this > > > tutorial. > > > > > > > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/13...tup-vista.html > > > > > > Shawn > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Brink > > > > > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask > > > them.* > > > '*VISTA FORUMS*' > > > *Please post feedback to help others.* > > > > > Keokani, I can understand your point of view, but these files are clean and safe. I made sure of it before I posted anything like that. If your willing, you can try each version to see which one will work for you. They work for both the 32 bit and 64 bit Vista. These are the default autochk.exe files installed by Vista. One version is before the SP1 is installed and the other after, that's all. It's up to you, but I believe it may help you. As an alternative, you can try running a "sfc /scannow" (No quotes) command to see if it can repair the file for you. This will show you how if needed. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66...c-command.html Hope this helps, Shawn -- Brink *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*VISTA FORUMS*' *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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I've tried the sfc /scannow command and it always terminates prematurely,
even when I run the command prompt as an administrator. It seems that the only way to run the Check Disk (chkdsk.exe) command is at startup before Windows boots up. As long as Windows is running, Check Disk will not work. Instead, it always asks if you want to schedule it upon the next startup (or restart), which of course, never happens because the autochk.exe file doesn't work. HP has opened up a service ticket for my case and have contacted me. They suspect several possibilities: The autochk.exe file might be corrupted, in a bad sector, or copied improperly from the recovery drive. I replied that I had the same problem before and after I restored my computer from the recovery drive. They also acknowledge the possibility that the incorrect version of the file was originally installed on both drives, in which case they will have to communicate with Microsoft. Accordingly, I have been instructed to restart my computer and keep hitting F11 (or F10, the guy wasn't sure) before Windows boots, until the BIOS screen comes up. Next, it is recommended that I have this utility check both the C drive and the recovery drive (D) to check for bad sectors. If there are bad sectors, then they may need to replace my hard drive. If there are no bad sectors, then they recommend that I perform a system recovery from the recovery CDs that came with my computer, rather than performing a recovery from the hard drive (D). The thought here is that the recovery drive could have an incorrect or corrupted version of the file, and that the recovery CDs will not. Since the last thing I want to do is perform a system recovery, I may try your procedure first. Right now I am undecided. What are your thoughts? Also, can step two of your procedure be performed before, or without performing, step two? "Brink" wrote: > > keokani;672348 Wrote: > > Dear Shawn, > > > > I have already read the tutorial that you provided me, since it ranks > > the > > highest in any internet search of this topic. I have found that it is > > the > > most authoritative article addressing this issue. Wikipedia also > > corroborates > > the root cause of this problem of chkdsk.exe not running at startup, as > > being > > due to a problem with the autochk.exe file. > > > > Surprisingly, and unfortunately, the Microsoft and HP websites don't > > address > > this issue. It is sad that only third-party sources address this issue. > > Microsoft should take ownership of this issue and be at the forefront > > of it. > > The only way Microsoft addresses it, though, is indirectly through > > consumers > > (such as yourself) using its Vista Community forums. > > > > Anyway, I have not yet implemented step one or step two in this > > tutorial > > because I am not comfortable altering items in the registry editor, nor > > am I > > comfortable trying to take ownership of the autochk.exe file. The steps > > provided to take ownership of the file admit that you might have > > difficulties, which could open up another whole fiasco. > > > > When I open the file under the folder, C:\Windows\system32\autochk.exe, > > right-click on the file, click on Properties, then click on the Details > > tab, > > the following fields are left blank: File description, File version, > > Product > > name, Product version, Copyright, and Language. Therefore, if I do > > succeed in > > taking ownership of the file, won't I still not know which version of > > the > > file I have? If not, then I will not be able to complete step two of > > the > > tutorial, where it asks you to download a new copy of the version of > > the file > > that you already have. > > > > Furthermore, this tutorial is based on the assumption that your > > autochk.exe > > file is corrupted. However, I don't think that is my issue. Rather, as > > the > > error message indicates, I believe that I have the wrong version of the > > file > > for my operating system, which is the Windows Vista Ultimate, 64-bit > > version. > > Perhaps the file is designed for Windows Vista 32-bit versions > > instead.? Or > > perhaps it is designed for Windows XP and doesn't work with any Windows > > Vista > > operating systems at all? > > > > Today I started a support case for HP, the manufacturer of my computer, > > which is an HP Pavilion dv6700t CTO Notebook PC. I purchased and > > received > > this computer in February of this year (2008). I am awaiting their > > response > > and will update this discussion thread if and when they provide a > > proper > > solution. > > > > An appropriate solution to this specific problem needs to be > > documented, one > > that addresses the issue of having the incorrect version of the > > autochk.exe > > file, rather than a corrupted autochk.exe file, which the tutorial > > addresses. > > Both issues need to be confirmed and verified by the websites of > > Microsoft > > and computer manufacturers themselves, so that we know such procedures > > are > > valid and that we can trust them. If the tutorial came directly from > > Microsoft, then I would not have any hesitation to follow all of the > > steps > > outlined. However, since the best solution currently available is > > provided by > > a third-party website, I am reluctant to follow its instructions. > > > > Perhaps a future Windows Vista update, or the next service pack, will > > solve > > this issue. Obviously, Service Pack 1 for Vista did not correct the > > problem. > > Who knows how long it will be until the next service pack will come > > out, or > > if it will even fix the problem? > > > > My incorrect version of autochk will not allow me to run chkdsk, a huge > > liability that puts my computer at risk, preventing me from running > > this > > utility to fix file corruption, which will inevitably happen. It is > > only a > > matter of time. With Check Disk (chkdsk), however, these file > > corruptions can > > be prevented and repaired. > > > > Because of this vulnerability, my only recourse, currently, is to > > constantly > > back up my computer so that I can restore it every time a file > > corruption > > occurs. However, one should not be relegated to performing a full > > computer > > back up so often, because when you do such restorations, you lose the > > changes > > made to files and settings since the last backup. This is an undue > > inconvenience. > > > > Therefore, I will press HP, the manufacturer of my computer, to fix > > this > > problem immediately, or else I will ask that they let me return this > > product > > for a full refund. Alternatively, I think they could be sued for this > > problem, because they are distributing a defective product. If you > > purchase a > > computer and the Check Disk utility doesn't work, you have a defective > > product and you should be able to get your money back. Furthermore, > > they > > should be required to do a recall on such defective merchandise. > > > > In the meantime, any help that someone can contribute to this matter > > would > > be greatly appreciated. Together, I hope we can resolve this issue once > > and > > for all. > > > > "Brink" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > keokani;672202 Wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Keokani, > > > > > > > > See if you can use one these autochk.exe versions from Step Two in > > > this > > > > tutorial. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/13...tup-vista.html > > > > > > > > Shawn > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Brink > > > > > > > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask > > > > them.* > > > > '*VISTA FORUMS*' > > > > *Please post feedback to help others.* > > > > > > > > Keokani, > > I can understand your point of view, but these files are clean and > safe. I made sure of it before I posted anything like that. If your > willing, you can try each version to see which one will work for you. > They work for both the 32 bit and 64 bit Vista. These are the default > autochk.exe files installed by Vista. One version is before the SP1 is > installed and the other after, that's all. > > It's up to you, but I believe it may help you. > > > As an alternative, you can try running a "sfc /scannow" (No quotes) > command to see if it can repair the file for you. This will show you how > if needed. > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66...c-command.html > > Hope this helps, > Shawn > > > -- > Brink > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask > them.* > '*VISTA FORUMS*' > *Please post feedback to help others.* > |
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keokani;672631 Wrote: > I've tried the sfc /scannow command and it always terminate > prematurely > even when I run the command prompt as an administrator. It seems tha > th > only way to run the Check Disk (chkdsk.exe) command is at startu > befor > Windows boots up. As long as Windows is running, Check Disk will no > work > Instead, it always asks if you want to schedule it upon the nex > startup (o > restart), which of course, never happens because the autochk.exe fil > doesn' > work > > HP has opened up a service ticket for my case and have contacted me > The > suspect several possibilities: The autochk.exe file might be corrupted > in > bad sector, or copied improperly from the recovery drive. I replie > that > had the same problem before and after I restored my computer from th > recovery drive. They also acknowledge the possibility that th > incorrec > version of the file was originally installed on both drives, in whic > cas > they will have to communicate with Microsoft > > Accordingly, I have been instructed to restart my computer and kee > hittin > F11 (or F10, the guy wasn't sure) before Windows boots, until the BIO > scree > comes up. Next, it is recommended that I have this utility check bot > the > drive and the recovery drive (D) to check for bad sectors. If there ar > ba > sectors, then they may need to replace my hard drive > > If there are no bad sectors, then they recommend that I perform > syste > recovery from the recovery CDs that came with my computer, rather tha > performing a recovery from the hard drive (D). The thought here is tha > th > recovery drive could have an incorrect or corrupted version of th > file, an > that the recovery CDs will not > > Since the last thing I want to do is perform a system recovery, I ma > tr > your procedure first. Right now I am undecided. What are your thoughts > Also > can step two of your procedure be performed before, or withou > performing > step two > Keokani You should do both Step One and Step Two to rule out and fix bot common problems. Step One makes sure that there is not a bad registr setting that allows chkdsk to run at startup by returning it to th default state. Step Two replaces the autochk.exe file with a clean cop of it. The worst thing that will happen is that it will not work and you ar back to where you are now Shaw -- Brin *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not as them.* '*VISTA FORUMS*' *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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I finally took your advice and implemented step two of your tutorial. It was
much easier than I imagined, with no problems at all, and the whole process is very quick. What is interesting is that step two automatically peformed step one, because the registry value is now exactly what you said to change it to, without my actually doing it. Perhaps that is something you might want to indicate in your tutorial. Since I have previously installed Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista, I chose the correct version of the two autochk files that you offer in step two. Since the autochk file I had did not indicate what version it was, I had to kind of think it through to figure out which of the two I was supposed to download. That would be my only other suggestion to improve your tutorial. Indicate which download is for Vista and which one is for Service Pack 1. Next, I scheduled Check Disk (chkdsk.exe) for the next startup, checking both of the boxes, then restarted my computer. Finally, it worked as it is supposed to. I am very thankful for your tutorial and your helping me out in this discussion. Microsoft and HP should pay you for doing their work for them. They owe you big. Your procedure is something that they should directly link their customers to when they inquire about this issue on their websites. Once again, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help. I would still be frustrated and miserable. I should have followed your tutorial right away, but I was apprehensive about third-party solutions. Since it was at the top of the search results, I should have trusted it sooner. By comparison, all of the advice and technical support that HP took me through was off target. I should bill them for all of my time they took up and for my increased cell phone bill. I would recommend your tutorials to anyone. You really have this stuff down. Keep up the good public service. "Brink" wrote: > > keokani;672631 Wrote: > > I've tried the sfc /scannow command and it always terminates > > prematurely, > > even when I run the command prompt as an administrator. It seems that > > the > > only way to run the Check Disk (chkdsk.exe) command is at startup > > before > > Windows boots up. As long as Windows is running, Check Disk will not > > work. > > Instead, it always asks if you want to schedule it upon the next > > startup (or > > restart), which of course, never happens because the autochk.exe file > > doesn't > > work. > > > > HP has opened up a service ticket for my case and have contacted me. > > They > > suspect several possibilities: The autochk.exe file might be corrupted, > > in a > > bad sector, or copied improperly from the recovery drive. I replied > > that I > > had the same problem before and after I restored my computer from the > > recovery drive. They also acknowledge the possibility that the > > incorrect > > version of the file was originally installed on both drives, in which > > case > > they will have to communicate with Microsoft. > > > > Accordingly, I have been instructed to restart my computer and keep > > hitting > > F11 (or F10, the guy wasn't sure) before Windows boots, until the BIOS > > screen > > comes up. Next, it is recommended that I have this utility check both > > the C > > drive and the recovery drive (D) to check for bad sectors. If there are > > bad > > sectors, then they may need to replace my hard drive. > > > > If there are no bad sectors, then they recommend that I perform a > > system > > recovery from the recovery CDs that came with my computer, rather than > > performing a recovery from the hard drive (D). The thought here is that > > the > > recovery drive could have an incorrect or corrupted version of the > > file, and > > that the recovery CDs will not. > > > > Since the last thing I want to do is perform a system recovery, I may > > try > > your procedure first. Right now I am undecided. What are your thoughts? > > Also, > > can step two of your procedure be performed before, or without > > performing, > > step two? > > > > Keokani, > > You should do both Step One and Step Two to rule out and fix both > common problems. Step One makes sure that there is not a bad registry > setting that allows chkdsk to run at startup by returning it to the > default state. Step Two replaces the autochk.exe file with a clean copy > of it. > > The worst thing that will happen is that it will not work and you are > back to where you are now. > > Shawn > > > -- > Brink > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask > them.* > '*VISTA FORUMS*' > *Please post feedback to help others.* > |
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keokani;672835 Wrote: > I finally took your advice and implemented step two of your tutorial. I > wa > much easier than I imagined, with no problems at all, and the whol > proces > is very quick. What is interesting is that step two automaticall > peforme > step one, because the registry value is now exactly what you said t > chang > it to, without my actually doing it. Perhaps that is something yo > might wan > to indicate in your tutorial > > Since I have previously installed Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista, > chos > the correct version of the two autochk files that you offer in ste > two > Since the autochk file I had did not indicate what version it was, > had t > kind of think it through to figure out which of the two I was suppose > t > download. That would be my only other suggestion to improve you > tutorial > Indicate which download is for Vista and which one is for Service Pac > 1 > > Next, I scheduled Check Disk (chkdsk.exe) for the next startup > checkin > both of the boxes, then restarted my computer. Finally, it worked as i > i > supposed to. I am very thankful for your tutorial and your helping m > out i > this discussion. Microsoft and HP should pay you for doing their wor > fo > them. They owe you big. Your procedure is something that they shoul > directl > link their customers to when they inquire about this issue on thei > websites > > Once again, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help. I woul > stil > be frustrated and miserable. I should have followed your tutorial righ > away > but I was apprehensive about third-party solutions. Since it was at th > to > of the search results, I should have trusted it sooner > > By comparison, all of the advice and technical support that HP took m > through was off target. I should bill them for all of my time they too > u > and for my increased cell phone bill > > I would recommend your tutorials to anyone. You really have this stuf > down > Keep up the good public service > > > "Brink" wrote > > > > > > > > > keokani;672631 Wrote > > > > > Keokani > > > > > You should do both Step One and Step Two to rule out and fix bot > > > common problems. Step One makes sure that there is not a bad registr > > > setting that allows chkdsk to run at startup by returning it to th > > > default state. Step Two replaces the autochk.exe file with a clea > > cop > > > of it > > > > > The worst thing that will happen is that it will not work and you ar > > > back to where you are now > > > > > Shaw > > > > > > > - > > > Brin > > > > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not as > > > them. > > > '*VISTA FORUMS*' (http://www.vistax64.com > > > *Please post feedback to help others. > > > > > Your welcome Keokani. I'm glad to hear that chkdsk is working for yo now. Thank you for your suggestions on improving the tutorial. They wil be added Shaw -- Brin *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not as them.* '*VISTA FORUMS*' *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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