Indexing...am i missing something??

Am I to understand that until an index is rebuilt there is absolutely NO
WAY for me to find a file by searching?? Can't Vista find a file that
isn't indexed?? good god, please, somebody tell me I'm wrong!! So
anytime I add files to my PC, there's no telling how long it will take
to find them? or to find them on a networked drive? arrgh! I thought
indexing was just to speed things up--not as the ONLY method for Vista
to locate a file. IF that IS the case, that's about as messed up as I
can imagine, for an OS in this day and age.

I'm suddenly very ****ed off at Vista....

Dave

David;428604 Wrote:
> Am I to understand that until an index is rebuilt there is absolutely NO
> WAY for me to find a file by searching?? Can't Vista find a file that
> isn't indexed?? good god, please, somebody tell me I'm wrong!! So
> anytime I add files to my PC, there's no telling how long it will take
> to find them? or to find them on a networked drive? arrgh! I thought
> indexing was just to speed things up--not as the ONLY method for Vista
> to locate a file. IF that IS the case, that's about as messed up as I
> can imagine, for an OS in this day and age.
>
> I'm suddenly very ****ed off at Vista....
>
> Dave

Hi Dave,

Oh no. You can always do a search in Vista for any file any time with
perfect results with a full non-indexed search. You just need to set
the search options for it. This is why I always do a non-indexed
search. It may take a bit longer, but the results are always accurate.
See this link for how.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/75...h-options.html

The Index is good for a quick search within a defined area, not a full
search of the whole hard drive. The index will take longer to update
it's list if you make a lot of changes all the time. To help with this,
try to leave a little more idle time for it to catch up with you.

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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In message <> David
<> wrote:

>Am I to understand that until an index is rebuilt there is absolutely NO
>WAY for me to find a file by searching?? Can't Vista find a file that
>isn't indexed?? good god, please, somebody tell me I'm wrong!!

You're wrong.

Choose the "Advanced Search" option, and enable the "Include
non-indexed..." checkbox.

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brink wrote:
> David;428604 Wrote:
>
>> Am I to understand that until an index is rebuilt there is absolutely NO
>> WAY for me to find a file by searching?? Can't Vista find a file that
>> isn't indexed?? good god, please, somebody tell me I'm wrong!! So
>> anytime I add files to my PC, there's no telling how long it will take
>> to find them? or to find them on a networked drive? arrgh! I thought
>> indexing was just to speed things up--not as the ONLY method for Vista
>> to locate a file. IF that IS the case, that's about as messed up as I
>> can imagine, for an OS in this day and age.
>>
>> I'm suddenly very ****ed off at Vista....
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Oh no. You can always do a search in Vista for any file any time with
> perfect results with a full non-indexed search. You just need to set
> the search options for it. This is why I always do a non-indexed
> search. It may take a bit longer, but the results are always accurate.
> See this link for how.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/75...h-options.html
>
> The Index is good for a quick search within a defined area, not a full
> search of the whole hard drive. The index will take longer to update
> it's list if you make a lot of changes all the time. To help with this,
> try to leave a little more idle time for it to catch up with you.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn
>
>
>
thanks, Shawn. Just a few minutes ago i did uncover an option to search
non indexed files. I think it took a total of 6 extra mouse clicks to
get to that search function. sigh. I wish i could just set the main
search box to search for non indexed files from the get-go instead of
going to the advanced screen.

Search Tools isn't always visible on the toolbar, either....sigh. I
keep forgetting what I've got to do to get that option to appear. I
don't think Gates and company spent enough time on useability. Geez!

dave

DevilsPGD wrote:
> In message <> David
> <> wrote:
>
>
>> Am I to understand that until an index is rebuilt there is absolutely NO
>> WAY for me to find a file by searching?? Can't Vista find a file that
>> isn't indexed?? good god, please, somebody tell me I'm wrong!!
>>
>
> You're wrong.
>
> Choose the "Advanced Search" option, and enable the "Include
> non-indexed..." checkbox.
>
>
but that seems to just enable the non indexed feature for that search
window. once closed, i'm back to square one with search only looking
for indexed files. btw, i just found that feature a few minutes
ago...buried about 6 mouse clicks from where I want to search from (a
folder).
dave

I moved 54GB of files to my new Vista machine. I left it on for seven days,
the index is complete. I'll save more time searching over the next two
weeks, than the delay during that first seven days. I can usually locate
what I am looking for by the time I type the 3rd letter.

You ought to take out your vindictive attitude on your lack of knowledge of
the subject, not the best new operating system ever.
"David" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> DevilsPGD wrote:
>> In message <> David
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Am I to understand that until an index is rebuilt there is absolutely NO
>>> WAY for me to find a file by searching?? Can't Vista find a file that
>>> isn't indexed?? good god, please, somebody tell me I'm wrong!!
>>
>> You're wrong.
>>
>> Choose the "Advanced Search" option, and enable the "Include
>> non-indexed..." checkbox.
>>
>>
> but that seems to just enable the non indexed feature for that search
> window. once closed, i'm back to square one with search only looking for
> indexed files. btw, i just found that feature a few minutes ago...buried
> about 6 mouse clicks from where I want to search from (a folder).
> dave

Charles W Davis wrote:
>
>
> You ought to take out your vindictive attitude on your lack of
> knowledge of the subject, not the best new operating system ever.
>
LOL. "vindictive"??? Grab yourself a dictionary next time and choose
the appropriate word so that your communiciations don't come across so
off-the-wall, eh??

Dave

So what if you have a click a few more times. and it isn't 6 extra clicks
either, just go to start, up to search on the right side then advanced, click
include non indexed etc etc.
I don't get how people can complain about clicking a few times,,,what's it
take about a half a second out of your day? Remember when we didn't have
computers to do things for us so easily a long time ago? I think people
complain too much. Things are never good enough for some people. Is it
gonna hurt your finger to click a few more times? LOL

"David" wrote:

> Charles W Davis wrote:
> >
> >
> > You ought to take out your vindictive attitude on your lack of
> > knowledge of the subject, not the best new operating system ever.
> >
> LOL. "vindictive"??? Grab yourself a dictionary next time and choose
> the appropriate word so that your communiciations don't come across so
> off-the-wall, eh??
>
> Dave
>

In message <> "Charles W Davis"
<> wrote:

>I moved 54GB of files to my new Vista machine. I left it on for seven days,
>the index is complete. I'll save more time searching over the next two
>weeks, than the delay during that first seven days. I can usually locate
>what I am looking for by the time I type the 3rd letter.

Seven days? Wow... What type of files?

Admittedly my profile is only about 20GB total, but the index takes less
then overnight to rebuild (I've never timed it, but I have smacked the
rebuild button when I've left for bed, it was always done by the
morning)

Much of that is photos, but no music or movies or other large files that
typically don't get indexed. I also don't index my chat logs (although
I will start, once someone builds a search filter that handles them more
gracefully)

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"Drob" <> wrote in message
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> So what if you have a click a few more times.

Multiply this by the lifetime use of the system please. It is typical lack
of attention to detail by MS.