What info is sent to MS from bug reporting and feedback?

In Vista on the desktop is the feedback link and there's also a feedback
tool like program I guess you can use. The same goes for bug reporting which
I guess is slightly different then using that feedback link? With bug
reporting you also get to use a bug report tool. What info is sent to MS
other then the information you put in yourself? Does it send your Vista Key
or hardware ID like from Activation or the specs of your pc etc?

That information no one can answer only the team that implemented that part
of the program.
No matter what anyone says, you will never know. It might be the information
you send, and/or all the information about your pc.



"AMDX2" <> wrote in message
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> In Vista on the desktop is the feedback link and there's also a feedback
> tool like program I guess you can use. The same goes for bug reporting
> which I guess is slightly different then using that feedback link? With
> bug reporting you also get to use a bug report tool. What info is sent to
> MS other then the information you put in yourself? Does it send your Vista
> Key or hardware ID like from Activation or the specs of your pc etc?
>

All that goes, is application data regarding the operating system, the
product ID (to see whether it's a genuine copy or not, but they can't do
anything really with that - just know that theres a non-genuine copy around
and about), as well as data about crashes such as if the Control Panel
crashes, it'll try and get the crash data from that.

They get sent whatever you attach as well (screenshots etc.), and the data
that you fill out from the main bug report window. They also record the IP
from which the report has come from - this will either be a unique IP from
your computer or from the ISP itself. But they do have a strong privacy
policy regarding it.

They don't actually collect personal data really - they just want the bug
report )

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"Sean Thompson" <> wrote in message
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> That information no one can answer only the team that implemented that
> part of the program.
> No matter what anyone says, you will never know. It might be the
> information you send, and/or all the information about your pc.
>
>
>
> "AMDX2" <> wrote in message
> news:244D4F4D-FE4A-40C6-A4B0-...
>> In Vista on the desktop is the feedback link and there's also a feedback
>> tool like program I guess you can use. The same goes for bug reporting
>> which I guess is slightly different then using that feedback link? With
>> bug reporting you also get to use a bug report tool. What info is sent to
>> MS other then the information you put in yourself? Does it send your
>> Vista Key or hardware ID like from Activation or the specs of your pc
>> etc?
>>
>
>

That is too much personal data already, your ip, your product ID etc. I
would think all they'd collect is the relevant info to what you are posting
and also the system hardware specs like what you have, but nothing to
identify you or your connection or whatever.


"Zack Whittaker" <> wrote in message
news:ecFRey%...
> All that goes, is application data regarding the operating system, the
> product ID (to see whether it's a genuine copy or not, but they can't do
> anything really with that - just know that theres a non-genuine copy
> around and about), as well as data about crashes such as if the Control
> Panel crashes, it'll try and get the crash data from that.
>
> They get sent whatever you attach as well (screenshots etc.), and the data
> that you fill out from the main bug report window. They also record the IP
> from which the report has come from - this will either be a unique IP from
> your computer or from the ISP itself. But they do have a strong privacy
> policy regarding it.
>
> They don't actually collect personal data really - they just want the bug
> report )
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
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> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
> that up!
>
> --: Original message follows :--
> "Sean Thompson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> That information no one can answer only the team that implemented that
>> part of the program.
>> No matter what anyone says, you will never know. It might be the
>> information you send, and/or all the information about your pc.
>>
>>
>>
>> "AMDX2" <> wrote in message
>> news:244D4F4D-FE4A-40C6-A4B0-...
>>> In Vista on the desktop is the feedback link and there's also a feedback
>>> tool like program I guess you can use. The same goes for bug reporting
>>> which I guess is slightly different then using that feedback link? With
>>> bug reporting you also get to use a bug report tool. What info is sent
>>> to MS other then the information you put in yourself? Does it send your
>>> Vista Key or hardware ID like from Activation or the specs of your pc
>>> etc?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hardware information, program data, no personal information, so don't expect
things like your IE Cache to be sent.
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"AMDX2" <> wrote in message
news:244D4F4D-FE4A-40C6-A4B0-...
> In Vista on the desktop is the feedback link and there's also a feedback
> tool like program I guess you can use. The same goes for bug reporting
> which I guess is slightly different then using that feedback link? With
> bug reporting you also get to use a bug report tool. What info is sent to
> MS other then the information you put in yourself? Does it send your Vista
> Key or hardware ID like from Activation or the specs of your pc etc?

That is the difference between Microsoft and OpenSource (eg, Linux)
products.

The truth is no one knows. Sure you will get everyone's opinions, but no one
knows.

Assume they take all information with the exception of your personal
documents. (eg, Word documents, Excel etc, etc).

But no one can answer that question for you here, because no body knows.




"AMDX2" <> wrote in message
news:244D4F4D-FE4A-40C6-A4B0-...
> In Vista on the desktop is the feedback link and there's also a feedback
> tool like program I guess you can use. The same goes for bug reporting
> which I guess is slightly different then using that feedback link? With
> bug reporting you also get to use a bug report tool. What info is sent to
> MS other then the information you put in yourself? Does it send your Vista
> Key or hardware ID like from Activation or the specs of your pc etc?
>

> That is the difference between Microsoft and OpenSource (eg, Linux)
> products.
[...]
> Assume they take all information with the exception of your personal
> documents.

Between Microsoft taking all my information and Open Source Product X taking
all my information, I'd rather trust Microsoft.

If I know both are taking my information, what does having the source
provide me with?

The relative certainty that you know what information is being
recorded/transmitted. I guess there is a benefit in "trusting" Microsoft
because should something go awry you would actually have an entity to sue.

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> If I know both are taking my information, what does having the source
> provide me with?

Homer.

The point that I was trying to make, is with the open source products, you
and I are able to determine what information is been sent.
Just look at the source code. (We might not approve of what information is
been sent but we CAN answer the original question)
With Microsoft products, No one person here can answer the "Original
question" which was "What info is sent to MS from bug reporting and
feedback?".





"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>> That is the difference between Microsoft and OpenSource (eg, Linux)
>> products.
> [...]
>> Assume they take all information with the exception of your personal
>> documents.
>
> Between Microsoft taking all my information and Open Source Product X
> taking all my information, I'd rather trust Microsoft.
>
> If I know both are taking my information, what does having the source
> provide me with?
>
>

> Homer.
>
> The point that I was trying to make, is with the open source products, you
> and I are able to determine what information is been sent.
> Just look at the source code. (We might not approve of what information is
> been sent but we CAN answer the original question)
> With Microsoft products, No one person here can answer the "Original
> question" which was "What info is sent to MS from bug reporting and
> feedback?".

(IMNSHO) I think it's safe to assume that even with an open source project,
if your crash reporting infrastructure is designed to upload a raw dump of a
chunk of memory, the odds are not zero that at some point or another you'll
be (maybe inadvertantly) transmitting bits and pieces of data that you might
prefer not to see being sent. That being said, I'd rather have Microsoft
getting that data and going out of its way to keep that data private than
some rinky-dink open source project with little to no resources to spend on
securing its infrastructure.

It's all about accountability. To that end, providing me with the source
still does not assure me in any way that personal information is not
inadvertantly shared.