initialize USB disk

Hi, I have Vista and I have a hard drive that I had for my personal stuff
from XP, my son installed it into my new PC then I got the drive
disconnected so as not to void the warranty when the technician from Acer
came to fix a problem I was having. I decided to get a casing for the drive
and use it as a USB device but can't initialise the disk.
I go to control panel/admin. tools/computer management/disk management. My
disk shows but I don't know how to initalize from there. When I right click
I get a help message only and not the options I get when I right click my
other drives.
The guy who sold me the casing installed the drive for me and I'm sure it is
OK as it shows that the disk is there.
It doesn't show when I look in the computer.
Thanks, I hope I have explained my problem properly

"The Clarks" <> wrote in message
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> Hi, I have Vista and I have a hard drive that I had for my personal stuff
> from XP, my son installed it into my new PC then I got the drive
> disconnected so as not to void the warranty when the technician from Acer
> came to fix a problem I was having. I decided to get a casing for the
> drive and use it as a USB device but can't initialise the disk.
> I go to control panel/admin. tools/computer management/disk management.
> My disk shows but I don't know how to initalize from there. When I right
> click I get a help message only and not the options I get when I right
> click my other drives.
> The guy who sold me the casing installed the drive for me and I'm sure it
> is OK as it shows that the disk is there.
> It doesn't show when I look in the computer.
> Thanks, I hope I have explained my problem properly


You were using this drive, and you have data on it? In that case you do
not have to initialise it. That's really only necessary before it's been
partitioned.

Try assigning it a drive letter, and at worst you can try the command line
version of the disk management utility. Open a command prompt and type
"diskpart", and then work through the commands. Basically the process is
to list the disks, select the disk you want, list the partitions, select the
partition you want, assign it a drive letter. In diskpart, the ? key will
get you the help text. You don't have to list the items if you know
exactly what they are, but it helps to be sure.

The syntax is like this:

List disk
Select disk 2
List partition
Select partition 1
assign
exit

and at this point, you should be able to see the drive with a letter in My
Computer and Explorer.

HTH
-pk

"Patrick Keenan" <> wrote

> you can try the command line version of the disk management utility.
> Open a command prompt and type "diskpart", and then work through the
> commands. Basically the process is to list the disks, select the disk
> you want, list the partitions, select the partition you want, assign it a
> drive letter. In diskpart, the ? key will get you the help text. You
> don't have to list the items if you know exactly what they are, but it
> helps to be sure.
> The syntax is like this:
> List disk
> Select disk 2
> List partition
> Select partition 1
> assign
> exit

Boy that sure jogged memories. It's like working through an old "Adventure"
game...
;-)

--
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com

When I bought a brand new drive I could not format it as it was no
initialized. Nowhere in Vista could I find out how this is done

On another forum I found the answer

Under Control Panel/Disk Management I found the new hard drive t
appear but in black, not like the other drives

Next to the name was a small red cross. Right clicking the red cros
allowed me to initialize it

Why is it so hard to do this in Vista and why is there no help for thi
proces

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oldun

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:33:18 +0530, a1000 wrote:

> HI,
> I have a somewhat slightly differnt question regarding disk
> Initialization...
> I installed a usb drive (brand new) and when I went to the Disk Manager
> it asked me to initalize the disk so I Clicked yes, and then poof it was
> doen..however it initalized the 250 g as a 130 g and I can't get windows
> xp to change it . I read the help files and then say to rgiht click the
> drive and select initalize but that option never appears...any
> suggestions?
> Many thanks

In Windows the word is Format.

Your BIOS might not allow larger file systems - the number 130 "g" (you
meant GB, right?) rings a bell in my brain.

If your computer is a 5 or 6 years old and running Windows Me, the BIOS
might be the reason.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

a1000 wrote:
> Hi,
> It is an older machine (2006) but its running windows XP. The question
> is how can I re-initialize the drive with the propwer 250 GB as opposed
> to 130 GB.


Right click on My Computer, either on your desktop (if present) or in
the Start menu. In the pop-up menu click on Manage. On the left side
of the Computer Management window click on Disk Management. Now
right-click on the entry for your USB drive and select delete partition.
Finally try to create the partition again.


--

Roy Smith
Windows XP Pro SP3

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:30:00 +0530, a1000 wrote:

> Hi,
> It is an older machine (2006) but its running windows XP. The question
> is how can I re-initialize the drive with the propwer 250 GB as opposed
> to 130 GB.
> Thanks in advance..

The question should've been "how can I reformat the drive...", and if your
BIOS doesn't support large partitions, the answer is "You can't". Unless
you upgrade your BIOS...

If your BIOS supports large drives, then I agree with Roy Smith.

I think 2006 is recent enough that your hardware (BIOS) should be OK.

OTOH, maybe there's something wrong with either the hard drive or the USB
enclosure or adapter that you are using. It happens :-(

You are formatting the drive as FAT32 or NTFS, correct?

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"Gene E. Bloch" <not-> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:30:00 +0530, a1000 wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> It is an older machine (2006) but its running windows XP. The
>> question
>> is how can I re-initialize the drive with the propwer 250 GB as
>> opposed
>> to 130 GB.
>> Thanks in advance..
>
> The question should've been "how can I reformat the drive...", and
> if your
> BIOS doesn't support large partitions, the answer is "You can't".
> Unless
> you upgrade your BIOS...
>
> If your BIOS supports large drives, then I agree with Roy Smith.
>
> I think 2006 is recent enough that your hardware (BIOS) should be
> OK.
>
> OTOH, maybe there's something wrong with either the hard drive or
> the USB
> enclosure or adapter that you are using. It happens :-(
>

The 130GB sounds like the 24bit addressing limit that used to be a
problem back around 2001 when the first WD 160GB drives arrived. XP
SP1 should have taken care of that limit, as should a BIOS from 2006.
However, as suggested the drive enclosure may be the problem. See
http://forums.windrivers.com/archive...p/t-64702.html for an
example much like this one, where the solution was to connect the
drive directly and partition / format it, then put it back in the
enclosure. I'm not sure how comfortable I would be that it wouldn't
have problems when filled to over 130GB, however...

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:55:26 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:30:00 +0530, a1000 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> It is an older machine (2006) but its running windows XP. The
>>> question
>>> is how can I re-initialize the drive with the propwer 250 GB as
>>> opposed
>>> to 130 GB.
>>> Thanks in advance..
>>
>> The question should've been "how can I reformat the drive...", and
>> if your
>> BIOS doesn't support large partitions, the answer is "You can't".
>> Unless
>> you upgrade your BIOS...
>>
>> If your BIOS supports large drives, then I agree with Roy Smith.
>>
>> I think 2006 is recent enough that your hardware (BIOS) should be
>> OK.
>>
>> OTOH, maybe there's something wrong with either the hard drive or
>> the USB
>> enclosure or adapter that you are using. It happens :-(
>>
>
> The 130GB sounds like the 24bit addressing limit that used to be a
> problem back around 2001 when the first WD 160GB drives arrived. XP
> SP1 should have taken care of that limit, as should a BIOS from 2006.
> However, as suggested the drive enclosure may be the problem. See
> http://forums.windrivers.com/archive...p/t-64702.html for an
> example much like this one, where the solution was to connect the
> drive directly and partition / format it, then put it back in the
> enclosure. I'm not sure how comfortable I would be that it wouldn't
> have problems when filled to over 130GB, however...

Thanks for the corroboration - I wasn't all that sure about the 130 GB
number.

And yes, as your link seems to imply, the enclosure itself might have a
controller that won't work over 137 GB (OK, I was off by 7 GB!).

I have no idea why the OP thinks that the boot sector prevents Windows from
formatting the drive to a new capacity. Perhaps he doesn't think that
rewriting the boot sector is part of formatting...

If Roy Smith's idea doesn't work for the OP, that does tend to implicate
the BIOS in the computer or the controller in the enclosure (or even the
drive itself).

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