Install - repair install

Hi all.

Dud motherboard here nothing else playing up but put new motherboard and CPU
in and expected that I could do a repair install, install new motherboard
drivers and possibly have to validate all over again the same as you always
did with XP but no good. I cannot get into Windows at all so cant run repair
from WITHIN windows and no option from the boot DVD works. So, do you have
to lose everything each time you upgrade hardware or some part of it dies
meaning you are forced to upgrade hardware?

I installed from Vista Business pre SP1 and installed SP1 before the
motherboard died. Any help appreciated.

I know that you must reinstall windows if the two motherboards does no
have the same chipset company (i.e.: if both motherboards have inte
chipsets you need not reinstall a new windows

--
ahmad12

You dont run a repair from within win, but boot up from the win cd/dvd &
repair from there

"Grey" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi all.
>
> Dud motherboard here nothing else playing up but put new motherboard and
> CPU in and expected that I could do a repair install, install new
> motherboard drivers and possibly have to validate all over again the same
> as you always did with XP but no good. I cannot get into Windows at all so
> cant run repair from WITHIN windows and no option from the boot DVD works.
> So, do you have to lose everything each time you upgrade hardware or some
> part of it dies meaning you are forced to upgrade hardware?
>
> I installed from Vista Business pre SP1 and installed SP1 before the
> motherboard died. Any help appreciated.
>

Possibly incorrect; I now understand you cannot repair a Vista installation
when new hw is installed, but have to clean install

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:eJK$...
> You dont run a repair from within win, but boot up from the win cd/dvd &
> repair from there
>
> "Grey" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Dud motherboard here nothing else playing up but put new motherboard and
>> CPU in and expected that I could do a repair install, install new
>> motherboard drivers and possibly have to validate all over again the same
>> as you always did with XP but no good. I cannot get into Windows at all
>> so cant run repair from WITHIN windows and no option from the boot DVD
>> works. So, do you have to lose everything each time you upgrade hardware
>> or some part of it dies meaning you are forced to upgrade hardware?
>>
>> I installed from Vista Business pre SP1 and installed SP1 before the
>> motherboard died. Any help appreciated.
>>
>
>

Repair install you have to do on almost all occasions but there is no need
to fresh install with XP. With Vista you don't have a choice but to fresh
install. Imagine the crap that will cause for major businesses!

"ahmad12" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> I know that you must reinstall windows if the two motherboards does not
> have the same chipset company (i.e.: if both motherboards have intel
> chipsets you need not reinstall a new windows)
>
>
> --
> ahmad12

Sorry but wrong. It is the opposite to which you say with Vista but with W2K
or XP you are right. I don't know why they changed it but there is no chance
to do a repair install in these circumstances with Vista.

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:eJK$...
> You dont run a repair from within win, but boot up from the win cd/dvd &
> repair from there
>
> "Grey" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Dud motherboard here nothing else playing up but put new motherboard and
>> CPU in and expected that I could do a repair install, install new
>> motherboard drivers and possibly have to validate all over again the same
>> as you always did with XP but no good. I cannot get into Windows at all
>> so cant run repair from WITHIN windows and no option from the boot DVD
>> works. So, do you have to lose everything each time you upgrade hardware
>> or some part of it dies meaning you are forced to upgrade hardware?
>>
>> I installed from Vista Business pre SP1 and installed SP1 before the
>> motherboard died. Any help appreciated.
>>
>
>

Yep that is what I found out but I am trying to find someone to prove me
wrong. So far no luck.

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:...
> Possibly incorrect; I now understand you cannot repair a Vista
> installation when new hw is installed, but have to clean install
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:eJK$...
>> You dont run a repair from within win, but boot up from the win cd/dvd &
>> repair from there
>>
>> "Grey" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> Dud motherboard here nothing else playing up but put new motherboard and
>>> CPU in and expected that I could do a repair install, install new
>>> motherboard drivers and possibly have to validate all over again the
>>> same as you always did with XP but no good. I cannot get into Windows at
>>> all so cant run repair from WITHIN windows and no option from the boot
>>> DVD works. So, do you have to lose everything each time you upgrade
>>> hardware or some part of it dies meaning you are forced to upgrade
>>> hardware?
>>>
>>> I installed from Vista Business pre SP1 and installed SP1 before the
>>> motherboard died. Any help appreciated.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Here's an interesting related article:

'Vista Repair Install - Vista Setup and Install'
(http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=705151)

Apparently it's possible to do an "upgrade" over an existing Vista
install. For the moment it looks like this is as close to a "repair"
install as we're going to get.

Nice of the folks at Microsoft to make us all pay out the nose to alpha
test their OS isn't it?

For the record, I did an interesting thing when I upgraded from XP to
Vista--totally off the top. My XP environment was a repair install of an
environment I moved over from an entirely different system! It worked,
but I discovered there were some hardware compatibility issues with XP
that have yet to be resolved. And as I migrated my XP environment over
from an IDE system to my new ATA AHCI system, I had to disable AHCI in
the BIOS to run XP (though I later found out there's a nifty way to
slip-stream the necessary drivers into the installation process--which
I'm sure will be possible with Vista via a third party app before long).

I had to start the upgrade from within XP, for some reason only
Microsloth knows. But when it rebooted the first time, I stopped the
process, went into BIOS, and reenabled AHCI, the upgrade went on without
a hitch and now I'm using SATA AHCI.

Kind of cool huh?

I think if -that's- possible, it's probably possible to figure out how
to get a repair install over a new motherboard via the upgrade process.


Keep one thing in mind as you deal with Vista. It's no longer
"software", but "market-ware". It's designed to make you spend as much
money as humanly possible in order to get it to work, and especially in
order to make any serious changes to your environment.

But, we the users will always find a way around their evil plots.


--
wornways
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com

Thanks for the info but to do an "upgrade" you would have to have that
option. Using the scenario I experienced:

My motherboard blew. I had previously had XP Pro on the machine and upgraded
to Vista Business with no probs. When the motherboard blew, I put another
in. I couldn't boot into Windows which was expected but I could boot off the
Vista disk and tried to do a repair install. When you get into the Vista
disk if you have already put SP1 in, you do *NOT* have the option to upgrade
as alluded to by the MVP on that web site. So, sorry, but this MAY well have
worked pre SP1 but it doesn't work after SP1. Thus, we are back to square
one where, if you have any hardware blow, unless you can supply exactly the
same hardware as before, you are stuffed. You can NOT repair install or
"upgrade".

"wornways" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Here's an interesting related article:
>
> 'Vista Repair Install - Vista Setup and Install'
> (http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=705151)
>
> Apparently it's possible to do an "upgrade" over an existing Vista
> install. For the moment it looks like this is as close to a "repair"
> install as we're going to get.
>
> Nice of the folks at Microsoft to make us all pay out the nose to alpha
> test their OS isn't it?
>
> For the record, I did an interesting thing when I upgraded from XP to
> Vista--totally off the top. My XP environment was a repair install of an
> environment I moved over from an entirely different system! It worked,
> but I discovered there were some hardware compatibility issues with XP
> that have yet to be resolved. And as I migrated my XP environment over
> from an IDE system to my new ATA AHCI system, I had to disable AHCI in
> the BIOS to run XP (though I later found out there's a nifty way to
> slip-stream the necessary drivers into the installation process--which
> I'm sure will be possible with Vista via a third party app before long).
>
> I had to start the upgrade from within XP, for some reason only
> Microsloth knows. But when it rebooted the first time, I stopped the
> process, went into BIOS, and reenabled AHCI, the upgrade went on without
> a hitch and now I'm using SATA AHCI.
>
> Kind of cool huh?
>
> I think if -that's- possible, it's probably possible to figure out how
> to get a repair install over a new motherboard via the upgrade process.
>
>
> Keep one thing in mind as you deal with Vista. It's no longer
> "software", but "market-ware". It's designed to make you spend as much
> money as humanly possible in order to get it to work, and especially in
> order to make any serious changes to your environment.
>
> But, we the users will always find a way around their evil plots.
>
>
> --
> wornways
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>

Well there's got to be a way, somehow. I'll keep bumping this up until
someone, eventually, has an answer. I'd like to learn a way to handle
such a circumstance -before- it happens to me.


--
wornways
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com