Install Software needing UAC prompt

I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
install a program from a standard user account.

The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.

What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard user
account.

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users account?

Thanks.

"Rob" <> wrote

>I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
> install a program from a standard user account.
>
> The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
>
> What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
> Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
> user
> account.
>
> Does anyone know why this is happening?
>
> Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
> account?

Can't you copy the shortcut that starts it to that users desktop?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

That sometimes happens if you are using a standard user account. When you
run a program and then specify an account from the uac prompt the program is
run in the context of the account you specify. Most programs have an option
to install for all users or only this user. If possible pick all users when
installing the program. If this doesn't work then you may have to
temporarily make your user account an administrator. Then you won't be
prompted for an account and password at the uac prompt. The program will be
installed in the context of your account. Once the program is installed you
can change the account back to a standard user. Generally programs that are
this poorly programmed will also have other problems in Vista so it may not
work out no matter what you do. What is the program in question?

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Rob" <> wrote in message
news:224B5486-410E-49C9-9EA1-...
>I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
> install a program from a standard user account.
>
> The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
>
> What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
> Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
> user
> account.
>
> Does anyone know why this is happening?
>
> Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
> account?
>
> Thanks.

No. It's an ADD-In for Outlook. My outlook setup is under the standard user
account so shortcuts don't apply.

"Rock" wrote:

> "Rob" <> wrote
>
> >I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
> > install a program from a standard user account.
> >
> > The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
> >
> > What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
> > Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
> > user
> > account.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this is happening?
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
> > account?
>
> Can't you copy the shortcut that starts it to that users desktop?
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>

Thanks Kerry. I was going to try the admin route anyways to get around this,
but it was a bit frustrating as I don't want to have to keep switching in and
out of the Admin role.

The program really is more of an Office Add-In. It is the Outlook backup
tool from the MS download site. I had it in XP and it worked great for what
I needed.

I was more trying to understand what caused this for future reference. It
must be that when using permission from UAC it seems to do it as a RunAs
which is why it installed under the Admin acount. This will obviously be the
biggest pain point for Vista until software is developed to better install in
the Vista world of security.

Thanks again.

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> That sometimes happens if you are using a standard user account. When you
> run a program and then specify an account from the uac prompt the program is
> run in the context of the account you specify. Most programs have an option
> to install for all users or only this user. If possible pick all users when
> installing the program. If this doesn't work then you may have to
> temporarily make your user account an administrator. Then you won't be
> prompted for an account and password at the uac prompt. The program will be
> installed in the context of your account. Once the program is installed you
> can change the account back to a standard user. Generally programs that are
> this poorly programmed will also have other problems in Vista so it may not
> work out no matter what you do. What is the program in question?
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "Rob" <> wrote in message
> news:224B5486-410E-49C9-9EA1-...
> >I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
> > install a program from a standard user account.
> >
> > The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
> >
> > What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
> > Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
> > user
> > account.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this is happening?
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
> > account?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
>

At gpedit.msc you can remove UAC for standard users.

Att,
Guilherme Kaneto



"Rob" <> wrote in message
news:0F05F468-F4D4-4589-BB8B-...
> Thanks Kerry. I was going to try the admin route anyways to get around
> this,
> but it was a bit frustrating as I don't want to have to keep switching in
> and
> out of the Admin role.
>
> The program really is more of an Office Add-In. It is the Outlook backup
> tool from the MS download site. I had it in XP and it worked great for
> what
> I needed.
>
> I was more trying to understand what caused this for future reference. It
> must be that when using permission from UAC it seems to do it as a RunAs
> which is why it installed under the Admin acount. This will obviously be
> the
> biggest pain point for Vista until software is developed to better install
> in
> the Vista world of security.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> That sometimes happens if you are using a standard user account. When you
>> run a program and then specify an account from the uac prompt the program
>> is
>> run in the context of the account you specify. Most programs have an
>> option
>> to install for all users or only this user. If possible pick all users
>> when
>> installing the program. If this doesn't work then you may have to
>> temporarily make your user account an administrator. Then you won't be
>> prompted for an account and password at the uac prompt. The program will
>> be
>> installed in the context of your account. Once the program is installed
>> you
>> can change the account back to a standard user. Generally programs that
>> are
>> this poorly programmed will also have other problems in Vista so it may
>> not
>> work out no matter what you do. What is the program in question?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "Rob" <> wrote in message
>> news:224B5486-410E-49C9-9EA1-...
>> >I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
>> > install a program from a standard user account.
>> >
>> > The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
>> >
>> > What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
>> > Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
>> > user
>> > account.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know why this is happening?
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
>> > account?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>

"Guilherme Kaneto" <> wrote in message
news:0DB53A44-A249-4EEA-80D7-...
> At gpedit.msc you can remove UAC for standard users.
>


This won't help if the program needs administrator privileges. It will still
fail.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

I'm not familiar with that program but from the sound if it, it would have
to be user specific. This is one case where it would be very nice to be able
to tell Windows "I know this is an installation program but it doesn't need
administrator privileges.". Hopefully a future service pack will add this
feature.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Rob" <> wrote in message
news:0F05F468-F4D4-4589-BB8B-...
> Thanks Kerry. I was going to try the admin route anyways to get around
> this,
> but it was a bit frustrating as I don't want to have to keep switching in
> and
> out of the Admin role.
>
> The program really is more of an Office Add-In. It is the Outlook backup
> tool from the MS download site. I had it in XP and it worked great for
> what
> I needed.
>
> I was more trying to understand what caused this for future reference. It
> must be that when using permission from UAC it seems to do it as a RunAs
> which is why it installed under the Admin acount. This will obviously be
> the
> biggest pain point for Vista until software is developed to better install
> in
> the Vista world of security.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> That sometimes happens if you are using a standard user account. When you
>> run a program and then specify an account from the uac prompt the program
>> is
>> run in the context of the account you specify. Most programs have an
>> option
>> to install for all users or only this user. If possible pick all users
>> when
>> installing the program. If this doesn't work then you may have to
>> temporarily make your user account an administrator. Then you won't be
>> prompted for an account and password at the uac prompt. The program will
>> be
>> installed in the context of your account. Once the program is installed
>> you
>> can change the account back to a standard user. Generally programs that
>> are
>> this poorly programmed will also have other problems in Vista so it may
>> not
>> work out no matter what you do. What is the program in question?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "Rob" <> wrote in message
>> news:224B5486-410E-49C9-9EA1-...
>> >I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
>> > install a program from a standard user account.
>> >
>> > The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
>> >
>> > What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
>> > Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
>> > user
>> > account.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know why this is happening?
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
>> > account?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>

For MSI files it's already here - Bit 3
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372870.aspx
--
Phil Wilson
[Microsoft MVP Windows Installer]
"Kerry Brown" <*a*m> wrote in message
news:...
> I'm not familiar with that program but from the sound if it, it would have
> to be user specific. This is one case where it would be very nice to be
> able to tell Windows "I know this is an installation program but it
> doesn't need administrator privileges.". Hopefully a future service pack
> will add this feature.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "Rob" <> wrote in message
> news:0F05F468-F4D4-4589-BB8B-...
>> Thanks Kerry. I was going to try the admin route anyways to get around
>> this,
>> but it was a bit frustrating as I don't want to have to keep switching in
>> and
>> out of the Admin role.
>>
>> The program really is more of an Office Add-In. It is the Outlook backup
>> tool from the MS download site. I had it in XP and it worked great for
>> what
>> I needed.
>>
>> I was more trying to understand what caused this for future reference.
>> It
>> must be that when using permission from UAC it seems to do it as a RunAs
>> which is why it installed under the Admin acount. This will obviously be
>> the
>> biggest pain point for Vista until software is developed to better
>> install in
>> the Vista world of security.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>>
>>> That sometimes happens if you are using a standard user account. When
>>> you
>>> run a program and then specify an account from the uac prompt the
>>> program is
>>> run in the context of the account you specify. Most programs have an
>>> option
>>> to install for all users or only this user. If possible pick all users
>>> when
>>> installing the program. If this doesn't work then you may have to
>>> temporarily make your user account an administrator. Then you won't be
>>> prompted for an account and password at the uac prompt. The program will
>>> be
>>> installed in the context of your account. Once the program is installed
>>> you
>>> can change the account back to a standard user. Generally programs that
>>> are
>>> this poorly programmed will also have other problems in Vista so it may
>>> not
>>> work out no matter what you do. What is the program in question?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerry Brown
>>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rob" <> wrote in message
>>> news:224B5486-410E-49C9-9EA1-...
>>> >I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
>>> > install a program from a standard user account.
>>> >
>>> > The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
>>> >
>>> > What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
>>> > Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
>>> > user
>>> > account.
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know why this is happening?
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
>>> > account?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>

Was it an MSI install? If so, this would be normal behavior for a per-user
install as opposed to a per-machine install. (Just me me or Everyone if
you're familiar with Visual Studio setup projects.).
--
Phil Wilson
[Microsoft MVP Windows Installer]
"Rob" <> wrote in message
news:224B5486-410E-49C9-9EA1-...
>I get the whole idea behind the UAC, but I ran into an issue trying to
> install a program from a standard user account.
>
> The UAC prmopted me for the program and it installed successfully.
>
> What I didn't know is that it installed successfully under the
> Administrator's account. It is nowhere to be found under the standard
> user
> account.
>
> Does anyone know why this is happening?
>
> Does anyone know how to get it to be available on the standard users
> account?
>
> Thanks.