Install Updates and Reboot Option @ Shutdown??

When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost never
turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is pretty
useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:

> When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
> from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost never
> turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is pretty
> useless.
>
> Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
>
> Thanks,
> Scott<-
>
>

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-
"MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Scott,
>
> After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
> Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
> restart, not shutdown, the system.
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
> Scott Townsend wrote:
>
>> When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
>> from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
>> never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
>> pretty useless.
>>
>> Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott<-

Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Scott Townsend wrote:

> What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
> be installed. I do not install them automatically.
>
> So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
> the systray icon.
>
> Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
> install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.
>
> So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
> install updates and shut down.
>
> I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
> require a reboot.
>
> Thank you,
> Scott<-
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>Scott,
>>
>>After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
>>Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
>>restart, not shutdown, the system.
>>
>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>>===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>>Never Forgotten
>>===============
>>
>>Scott Townsend wrote:
>>
>>
>>>When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
>>>from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
>>>never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
>>>pretty useless.
>>>
>>>Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>> Scott<-
>
>
>

HI,

I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...

That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
and SHUTDOWN"

My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
That is "notify but don't download or install"

I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
restart.

I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and option
since I remote in.
Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"

I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..


Thank you

GT


"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
> an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
> don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
> and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
> rebooting.
> One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
> reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html
>
> BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
> install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
> d/ling them.
>
> HTH,
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
>
> Scott Townsend wrote:
>
> > What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
> > be installed. I do not install them automatically.
> >
> > So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
> > the systray icon.
> >
> > Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
> > install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.
> >
> > So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
> > install updates and shut down.
> >
> > I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
> > require a reboot.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Scott<-
> > "MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> >
> >>Scott,
> >>
> >>After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
> >>Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
> >>restart, not shutdown, the system.
> >>
> >>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> >>===============
> >> *-343-* FDNY
> >>Never Forgotten
> >>===============
> >>
> >>Scott Townsend wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
> >>>from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
> >>>never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
> >>>pretty useless.
> >>>
> >>>Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>> Scott<-
> >
> >
> >
>

[Then you're just gonna *love* this months round of updates!]

GST-GridTech wrote:
> HI,
>
> I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...
>
> That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
> and SHUTDOWN"
>
> My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
> That is "notify but don't download or install"
>
> I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
> was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
> restart.
>
> I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and
> option
> since I remote in.
> Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
> the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
> when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"
>
> I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
> Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
> on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..
>
>
> Thank you
>
> GT
>
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
>> an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
>> don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
>> and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
>> rebooting.
>> One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
>> reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
>> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html
>>
>> BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
>> install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
>> d/ling them.
>>
>> HTH,
>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>> ===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ===============
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Townsend wrote:
>>
>>> What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending
>>> to
>>> be installed. I do not install them automatically.
>>>
>>> So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I
>>> ignore
>>> the systray icon.
>>>
>>> Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time
>>> to
>>> install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come
>>> back.
>>>
>>> So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
>>> install updates and shut down.
>>>
>>> I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
>>> require a reboot.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Scott<-
>>> "MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>
>>>> Scott,
>>>>
>>>> After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
>>>> Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
>>>> restart, not shutdown, the system.
>>>>
>>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>>>> ===============
>>>> *-343-* FDNY
>>>> Never Forgotten
>>>> ===============
>>>>
>>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an
>>>>> option from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I
>>>>> almost never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and
>>>>> Shutdown is pretty useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Scott<-

Not sure what you mean.

is this addressed in SP3 or later updates.
Only 1 of my PC's has SP3, the rest are (SP2 with SP2 updates)
is this a known issue/problem that WILL be fixed/corrected???????

Thank you...GT


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> [Then you're just gonna *love* this months round of updates!]
>
> GST-GridTech wrote:
> > HI,
> >
> > I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...
> >
> > That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
> > and SHUTDOWN"
> >
> > My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
> > That is "notify but don't download or install"
> >
> > I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
> > was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
> > restart.
> >
> > I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and
> > option
> > since I remote in.
> > Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
> > the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
> > when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"
> >
> > I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
> > Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
> > on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..
> >
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > GT
> >
> >
> > "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Scott,
> >>
> >> Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
> >> an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
> >> don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
> >> and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
> >> rebooting.
> >> One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
> >> reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
> >> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html
> >>
> >> BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
> >> install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
> >> d/ling them.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> >> ===============
> >> *-343-* FDNY
> >> Never Forgotten
> >> ===============
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Townsend wrote:
> >>
> >>> What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending
> >>> to
> >>> be installed. I do not install them automatically.
> >>>
> >>> So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I
> >>> ignore
> >>> the systray icon.
> >>>
> >>> Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time
> >>> to
> >>> install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come
> >>> back.
> >>>
> >>> So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
> >>> install updates and shut down.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
> >>> require a reboot.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Scott<-
> >>> "MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> >>> news:...
> >>>
> >>>> Scott,
> >>>>
> >>>> After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
> >>>> Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
> >>>> restart, not shutdown, the system.
> >>>>
> >>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> >>>> ===============
> >>>> *-343-* FDNY
> >>>> Never Forgotten
> >>>> ===============
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an
> >>>>> option from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I
> >>>>> almost never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and
> >>>>> Shutdown is pretty useless.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Scott<-
>
>

No, I was referring to the excessive demand on the update servers due to the
large number of August updates:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms09-aug.mspx (just about
all of which will apply to WinXP SP2 and SP3)

Plus http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec...ry/973811.mspx
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973811)

Personally, I don't expect there to be any "fix" for WinXP...which entered
Extended Support in Apr-09. Speaking of which, computers running WinXP SP2
will not be offered any further critical security updates and Windows Update
website will not be available if SP3 isn't installed by April 2010.


GST-GridTech wrote:
> Not sure what you mean.
>
> is this addressed in SP3 or later updates.
> Only 1 of my PC's has SP3, the rest are (SP2 with SP2 updates)
> is this a known issue/problem that WILL be fixed/corrected???????
>
> Thank you...GT
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> [Then you're just gonna *love* this months round of updates!]
>>
>> GST-GridTech wrote:
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...
>>>
>>> That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install
>>> Updates
>>> and SHUTDOWN"
>>>
>>> My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
>>> That is "notify but don't download or install"
>>>
>>> I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003)
>>> and
>>> was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do
>>> a
>>> restart.
>>>
>>> I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and
>>> option
>>> since I remote in.
>>> Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
>>> the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
>>> when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"
>>>
>>> I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to
>>> Restart.
>>> Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server
>>> back
>>> on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> GT
>>>
>>>
>>> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
>>>> an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
>>>> don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
>>>> and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
>>>> rebooting.
>>>> One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
>>>> reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
>>>> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html
>>>>
>>>> BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
>>>> install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
>>>> d/ling them.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>>>> ===============
>>>> *-343-* FDNY
>>>> Never Forgotten
>>>> ===============
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What usually happens is that the system has some update that is
>>>>> pending
>>>>> to
>>>>> be installed. I do not install them automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I
>>>>> ignore
>>>>> the systray icon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time
>>>>> to
>>>>> install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come
>>>>> back.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
>>>>> install updates and shut down.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
>>>>> require a reboot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Scott<-
>>>>> "MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
>>>>>> Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> restart, not shutdown, the system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>>>>>> ===============
>>>>>> *-343-* FDNY
>>>>>> Never Forgotten
>>>>>> ===============
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an
>>>>>>> option from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> almost never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and
>>>>>>> Shutdown is pretty useless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Scott<-

GST-GridTech wrote:

> I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...
>
> That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
> and SHUTDOWN"

Same solution. Use the Windows Update or Microsoft Update web site.

Harry.

>
> My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
> That is "notify but don't download or install"
>
> I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
> was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
> restart.
>
> I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and option
> since I remote in.
> Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
> the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
> when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"
>
> I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
> Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
> on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..
>
>
> Thank you
>
> GT
>
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
>> an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
>> don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
>> and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
>> rebooting.
>> One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
>> reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
>> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html
>>
>> BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
>> install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
>> d/ling them.
>>
>> HTH,
>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>> ===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ===============
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Townsend wrote:
>>
>>> What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
>>> be installed. I do not install them automatically.
>>>
>>> So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
>>> the systray icon.
>>>
>>> Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
>>> install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.
>>>
>>> So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
>>> install updates and shut down.
>>>
>>> I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
>>> require a reboot.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Scott<-
>>> "MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>
>>>> Scott,
>>>>
>>>> After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
>>>> Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
>>>> restart, not shutdown, the system.
>>>>
>>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>>>> ===============
>>>> *-343-* FDNY
>>>> Never Forgotten
>>>> ===============
>>>>
>>>> Scott Townsend wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
>>>> >from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
>>>>> never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
>>>>> pretty useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Scott<-
>>>
>>>

Updates are not "downloaded" again.

Punk wrote:
> I had the same problem... (That is I needed "Install updates and
> Restart" instead of "Install Updates and SHUTDOWN").
>
> But you can try force install of updates through windows update option
> with iexplorer. (Start --> all programs --> windows update)
> You will get the same set of updates, then you click install and all
> the updates that are already
> downloaded to computer will get "downloaded" again (very fast because
> they are already downloaded :-)...).
> Then you will get "restart" option after install. (Installation
> Complete ---- Restart now)
>
> And voila, you downloaded updates, installed them and restarted the
> computer all remotely through RDP.