installation advice

I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and therefore
maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore need some advice.

Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and would
like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server. I have POP3
accounts. Is there a way to
a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.) which may
reside on MS servers?
b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and not in the
default C: (documents and settings) drive location?

Thank you.

Jeff

<> wrote in message
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> I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and
> therefore maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore need
> some advice.
>
> Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and would
> like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server. I have POP3
> accounts. Is there a way to
> a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.) which may
> reside on MS servers?

Yes but unless you use Hotmail all your data (including calendar) IS on your
local HDD


> b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and not in
> the default C: (documents and settings) drive location?


Yes - you can move the data storage anywhere you like.

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"Gordon" <> wrote in message
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> <> wrote in message
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>> I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and
>> therefore maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore need
>> some advice.
>>
>> Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and would
>> like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server. I have POP3
>> accounts. Is there a way to
>> a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.) which may
>> reside on MS servers?
>
> Yes but unless you use Hotmail all your data (including calendar) IS on
> your local HDD
>

A Hotmail account setup as pop3 is no different than any other pop3 account.
Signing in with a Live ID will sync the Calendar and Contacts, but will not
affect a pop3 Hotmail account.
>
>> b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and not in
>> the default C: (documents and settings) drive location?
>
>
> Yes - you can move the data storage anywhere you like.

I have not had any experience with moving the store folder. Have you moved
the store folder?
--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP-Mail

Hi, Ron.

We can move Windows Live Mail's Message Store just about the way that we
move Outlook Express's Store Folders. The names of the folders have been
changed and their internal structure is completely different, but we can
move them in the same way.

Click Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance, then click Store Folder
(yes, the name on the button is still the same). The next window is Store
Location. Just type in the name of the folder that you want to use. Note
that this is the pathname to what Windows calls a "folder", not the store
folder itself, which is a file (not a Windows folder) called
Mail.MSMessageStore.

On my computer, I created a new volume, Drive H:, and created a folder there
called Win7WLM. So, for the new Store Location, I typed H:\Win7WLM. Then,
as instructed, I Exited WLM. When I started WLM again, it moved the Store
Folder. My message store is quite large, since I've been carrying it
forward for 10 years or more, so it took a while to actually copy all the
files. I don't recall if WLM did that when I Exited, or when I re-started
WLM, but I was up and running again with my messages in the new location
with little delay - and no trauma. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
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>> <> wrote in message
>> news:usXwnh#...
>>> I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and
>>> therefore maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore need
>>> some advice.
>>>
>>> Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and would
>>> like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server. I have POP3
>>> accounts. Is there a way to
>>> a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.) which may
>>> reside on MS servers?
>>
>> Yes but unless you use Hotmail all your data (including calendar) IS on
>> your local HDD
>>
>
> A Hotmail account setup as pop3 is no different than any other pop3
> account.
> Signing in with a Live ID will sync the Calendar and Contacts, but will
> not affect a pop3 Hotmail account.
>>
>>> b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and not in
>>> the default C: (documents and settings) drive location?
>>
>>
>> Yes - you can move the data storage anywhere you like.
>
> I have not had any experience with moving the store folder. Have you
> moved the store folder?
> --
> Ron Sommer
> MS MVP-Mail

All data with or without using Hotmail is stored on your local HDD in WLM.

Signing on to Windows Live (not Hotmail) only syncs contacts and the calendar with that respective Live ID used to sign on to
Windows Live.

A Live ID can be a Hotmail type account(hotmail.com, live.com, msn.com) or any third party email address registered as a Live ID.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Gordon" <> wrote in message >
> Yes but unless you use Hotmail all your data (including calendar) IS on your local HDD

R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Ron.
>
> We can move Windows Live Mail's Message Store just about the way that
> we move Outlook Express's Store Folders. The names of the folders
> have been changed and their internal structure is completely
> different, but we can move them in the same way.
>
> Click Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance, then click Store
> Folder (yes, the name on the button is still the same). The next
> window is Store Location. Just type in the name of the folder that
> you want to use. Note that this is the pathname to what Windows
> calls a "folder", not the store folder itself, which is a file (not a
> Windows folder) called Mail.MSMessageStore.
>
> On my computer, I created a new volume, Drive H:, and created a
> folder there called Win7WLM. So, for the new Store Location, I typed
> H:\Win7WLM. Then, as instructed, I Exited WLM. When I started WLM
> again, it moved the Store Folder. My message store is quite large,
> since I've been carrying it forward for 10 years or more, so it took
> a while to actually copy all the files. I don't recall if WLM did
> that when I Exited, or when I re-started WLM, but I was up and
> running again with my messages in the new location with little delay
> - and no trauma. ;<)
> RC
>
> "Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
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>> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
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>>> <> wrote in message
>>> news:usXwnh#...
>>>> I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and
>>>> therefore maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore
>>>> need some advice.
>>>>
>>>> Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and
>>>> would like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server.
>>>> I have POP3 accounts. Is there a way to
>>>> a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.)
>>>> which may reside on MS servers?
>>>
>>> Yes but unless you use Hotmail all your data (including calendar)
>>> IS on your local HDD
>>>
>>
>> A Hotmail account setup as pop3 is no different than any other pop3
>> account.
>> Signing in with a Live ID will sync the Calendar and Contacts, but
>> will not affect a pop3 Hotmail account.
>>>
>>>> b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and
>>>> not in the default C: (documents and settings) drive location?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes - you can move the data storage anywhere you like.
>>
>> I have not had any experience with moving the store folder. Have you
>> moved the store folder?
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>> MS MVP-Mail
Thank you Ron. Just what I needed to know.
I had moved my OE store folder years ago and now will use your instructions
to do the same with live mail.
Jeff

On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:15:54 -0500, wrote:

> I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and therefore
> maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore need some advice.
>
> Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and would
> like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server. I have POP3
> accounts. Is there a way to
> a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.) which may
> reside on MS servers?
> b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and not in the
> default C: (documents and settings) drive location?

For a): When you install Windows Live Mail, you don't need to have it sign
in with a Windows Live ID. If you don't have a Hotmail address
(@hotmail.com, @live.com, or @msn.com), you don't need this feature at all.
You can then just ignore the calendar feature. If you never use it, there
will be nothing sensitive on the server.

For b): Same location as MS Outlook Express (and probably Windows Mail):
Tools | Options | Advanced, and use the "Store Folder" button.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"N. Miller" <> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:15:54 -0500, wrote:
>
>> I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and
>> therefore
>> maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore need some advice.
>>
>> Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and would
>> like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server. I have POP3
>> accounts. Is there a way to
>> a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.) which may
>> reside on MS servers?
>> b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and not in
>> the
>> default C: (documents and settings) drive location?
>
> For a): When you install Windows Live Mail, you don't need to have it sign
> in with a Windows Live ID. If you don't have a Hotmail address
> (@hotmail.com, @live.com, or @msn.com), you don't need this feature at
> all.
> You can then just ignore the calendar feature. If you never use it, there
> will be nothing sensitive on the server.
>
> For b): Same location as MS Outlook Express (and probably Windows Mail):
> Tools | Options | Advanced, and use the "Store Folder" button.
>
Thank you.
Is there a way to use the Calendar feature without having it send data
elsewhere?

<> wrote in message
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> "N. Miller" <> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:15:54 -0500, wrote:
>>
>>> I will son be moving from XP and Outlook Express to Windows 7 and
>>> therefore
>>> maybe to Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird. I therefore need some
>>> advice.
>>>
>>> Being paranoid, I prefer not to participate in cloud computing and would
>>> like to have all my mail on my PC and my ISP's mail server. I have POP3
>>> accounts. Is there a way to
>>> a) install WLMail without its components (like calendar, etc.) which may
>>> reside on MS servers?
>>> b) have it place my storage folders on my E: "data partition" and not in
>>> the
>>> default C: (documents and settings) drive location?
>>
>> For a): When you install Windows Live Mail, you don't need to have it
>> sign
>> in with a Windows Live ID. If you don't have a Hotmail address
>> (@hotmail.com, @live.com, or @msn.com), you don't need this feature at
>> all.
>> You can then just ignore the calendar feature. If you never use it, there
>> will be nothing sensitive on the server.
>>
>> For b): Same location as MS Outlook Express (and probably Windows Mail):
>> Tools | Options | Advanced, and use the "Store Folder" button.
>>
> Thank you.
> Is there a way to use the Calendar feature without having it send data
> elsewhere?
>
>
The calendar functions without logging in, but the reminders feature and
importing calendar (ics) files does not work.
--
Ron Sommer
MS-MVP Windows Live Mail

On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 18:34:29 -0500, wrote:

> Is there a way to use the Calendar feature without having it send data
> elsewhere?

I don't use it, so I will have to defer to those who know more.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum