Installing SP1 -- need a little advice

The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It
obviously includes more than I need for this fast and
stable Vista Business installation on my T7700 4GB
laptop. The grass is always greener...

The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then
install SP1. If all goes well, fine. If not, it's back
to perfection.

Is there a method for checking the validity of that
download?

Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the
record I tried Linux before it was called that
(Stallman), have been in computing since vacuum tubes,
and have had success with almost everything from uSoft,
so please don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should
wait for the Google OS.

Thanks!

Since you are so happy why dont you stay without sp1?

Something about your fan boy attitude gives me the creeps...

you freak me out kiddo!

if you dont have SP1 vista is not "fast and stable" rather its fat and
belongs in a stable

> back to perfection.

Back to horrible Vista you mean...

Vista before SP1 was crap....


"Hank" <> wrote in message
news:fovd4a$rs8$...
> The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It obviously includes more
> than I need for this fast and stable Vista Business installation on my
> T7700 4GB laptop. The grass is always greener...
>
> The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then install SP1. If
> all goes well, fine. If not, it's back to perfection.
>
> Is there a method for checking the validity of that download?
>
> Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the record I tried Linux
> before it was called that (Stallman), have been in computing since vacuum
> tubes, and have had success with almost everything from uSoft, so please
> don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should wait for the Google OS.
>
> Thanks!

As far as I know there is no way of validating the download. Just make sure
it comes from the official Microsoft download site, TechNet or msdn. Some
pirate sites are, I believe, already allowing downloads but the file, in
many cases, is somewhat larger than the official version, so ask yourself
what malware/spyware has been added by the pirate sites?

I'm using Vista Ultimate and SP1 is running fine on my machine. I agree that
it is wise to image the drive prior to installing; this is something I would
do as a matter of course with any service pack update.


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"Hank" <> wrote in message
news:fovd4a$rs8$...
> The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It obviously includes more
> than I need for this fast and stable Vista Business installation on my
> T7700 4GB laptop. The grass is always greener...
>
> The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then install SP1. If
> all goes well, fine. If not, it's back to perfection.
>
> Is there a method for checking the validity of that download?
>
> Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the record I tried Linux
> before it was called that (Stallman), have been in computing since vacuum
> tubes, and have had success with almost everything from uSoft, so please
> don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should wait for the Google OS.
>
> Thanks!

"Hank" <> wrote in message
news:fovd4a$rs8$...
> The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It obviously includes more
> than I need for this fast and stable Vista Business installation on my
> T7700 4GB laptop. The grass is always greener...
>
> The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then install SP1. If
> all goes well, fine. If not, it's back to perfection.
>
> Is there a method for checking the validity of that download?
>
> Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the record I tried Linux
> before it was called that (Stallman), have been in computing since vacuum
> tubes, and have had success with almost everything from uSoft, so please
> don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should wait for the Google OS.
>
> Thanks!

What you are downloading is NOT just SP1 as you have surmised.
It is a slipstreamed DVD of the 32 and 64 bit products (all regular
editions).
So you cannot just "install" SP1 from it it is for doing OEM clean installs
with - this is why it was on the system builders' site.
The real SP1 package you will see later this month (dependent on what
programs you are on) are available as stand alone packages for 32 or 64 bit
to apply to a currently running machine.
So you either wait for these or the Windows Update release (mid March) or
you do a clean install with your OEM DVD you have made from the ISO, or you
try an "upgrade" using the DVD.

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low-life troll. A real Tiberius reincarnation.

"Previously Tiberius" <> wrote in message
news:47b33dfa$...
> Since you are so happy why dont you stay without sp1?
>
> Something about your fan boy attitude gives me the creeps...
>
> you freak me out kiddo!
>
> if you dont have SP1 vista is not "fast and stable" rather its fat and
> belongs in a stable
>
>> back to perfection.
>
> Back to horrible Vista you mean...
>
> Vista before SP1 was crap....
>
>
> "Hank" <> wrote in message
> news:fovd4a$rs8$...
>> The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It obviously includes more
>> than I need for this fast and stable Vista Business installation on my
>> T7700 4GB laptop. The grass is always greener...
>>
>> The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then install SP1. If
>> all goes well, fine. If not, it's back to perfection.
>>
>> Is there a method for checking the validity of that download?
>>
>> Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the record I tried Linux
>> before it was called that (Stallman), have been in computing since vacuum
>> tubes, and have had success with almost everything from uSoft, so please
>> don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should wait for the Google OS.
>>
>> Thanks!
>

"it is wise to image the drive prior to installing"

Is the Vista Ultimate complete pc backup an image?
The folder created is labeled "WindowsImageBackup" which suggests that it
is.



"John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
news:771B70B3-C6D7-4847-A08E-...
> As far as I know there is no way of validating the download. Just make
> sure it comes from the official Microsoft download site, TechNet or msdn.
> Some pirate sites are, I believe, already allowing downloads but the file,
> in many cases, is somewhat larger than the official version, so ask
> yourself what malware/spyware has been added by the pirate sites?
>
> I'm using Vista Ultimate and SP1 is running fine on my machine. I agree
> that it is wise to image the drive prior to installing; this is something
> I would do as a matter of course with any service pack update.
>
>
> --
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> this mail/post..
>
> "Hank" <> wrote in message
> news:fovd4a$rs8$...
>> The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It obviously includes more
>> than I need for this fast and stable Vista Business installation on my
>> T7700 4GB laptop. The grass is always greener...
>>
>> The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then install SP1. If
>> all goes well, fine. If not, it's back to perfection.
>>
>> Is there a method for checking the validity of that download?
>>
>> Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the record I tried Linux
>> before it was called that (Stallman), have been in computing since vacuum
>> tubes, and have had success with almost everything from uSoft, so please
>> don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should wait for the Google OS.
>>
>> Thanks!
>

Yes it is.

"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "it is wise to image the drive prior to installing"
>
> Is the Vista Ultimate complete pc backup an image?
> The folder created is labeled "WindowsImageBackup" which suggests that it
> is.
>
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:771B70B3-C6D7-4847-A08E-...
>> As far as I know there is no way of validating the download. Just make
>> sure it comes from the official Microsoft download site, TechNet or msdn.
>> Some pirate sites are, I believe, already allowing downloads but the
>> file, in many cases, is somewhat larger than the official version, so ask
>> yourself what malware/spyware has been added by the pirate sites?
>>
>> I'm using Vista Ultimate and SP1 is running fine on my machine. I agree
>> that it is wise to image the drive prior to installing; this is something
>> I would do as a matter of course with any service pack update.
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>> "Hank" <> wrote in message
>> news:fovd4a$rs8$...
>>> The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It obviously includes more
>>> than I need for this fast and stable Vista Business installation on my
>>> T7700 4GB laptop. The grass is always greener...
>>>
>>> The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then install SP1. If
>>> all goes well, fine. If not, it's back to perfection.
>>>
>>> Is there a method for checking the validity of that download?
>>>
>>> Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the record I tried Linux
>>> before it was called that (Stallman), have been in computing since
>>> vacuum tubes, and have had success with almost everything from uSoft, so
>>> please don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should wait for the
>>> Google OS.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>

Thanks a lot. I mind waiting because, as mentioned, the
grass is always greener. Ah, well. I'll just have to
settle for the best computer and OS I've ever used.

I wonder what makes some of these folks tick. They don't
use Vista, hate Microsoft, and compute with a wooden
abacus. Some use derivatives of Linux, on which
approximately 1% of useful software will run. Others use
Apple, which costs approximately 150% of a PC for the
same functionality, and Apple software choices are
reduced by about 90%.

Some of these passionate but misguided people seem to
subscribe to a belief system that is a cross between
Islam and Scientology.

It would be great if everyone in this Vista discussion
group actually used Vista, and helped each other solve
problems and fully exploit that excellent OS. I, for
one, would promise never, ever, EVER to hassle them in
their Linux discussions...

My Advice Is To Wait Until It Ends Up On Microsoft Windows Update And Not
Try To Download It From A Non Microsoft Source, Just FYI. P.S. Microsoft
Windows Server 2008 RTM Is Also A Good Choice as Well (It's Much More Stable
Than The Beta Version's Of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 That I Was Able To
Test), Just FYI.

"Hank" <> wrote in message
news:fovd4a$rs8$...
> The 1.2GB SP1 32/64 file is downloading now. It obviously includes more
> than I need for this fast and stable Vista Business installation on my
> T7700 4GB laptop. The grass is always greener...
>
> The plan is to use Acronis to do a disk image, and then install SP1. If
> all goes well, fine. If not, it's back to perfection.
>
> Is there a method for checking the validity of that download?
>
> Any competent suggestions are welcome, but for the record I tried Linux
> before it was called that (Stallman), have been in computing since vacuum
> tubes, and have had success with almost everything from uSoft, so please
> don't tell me how bad Vista is or why I should wait for the Google OS.
>
> Thanks!

This is an incredibly insightful narrative but only if those people could be
influenced by your or similar arguments! They are so screwed up that no
amount of medication or brain surgery could help.

"Hank" <> wrote in message
news:fp01vn$3vq$...
> Thanks a lot. I mind waiting because, as mentioned, the grass is always
> greener. Ah, well. I'll just have to settle for the best computer and OS
> I've ever used.
>
> I wonder what makes some of these folks tick. They don't use Vista, hate
> Microsoft, and compute with a wooden abacus. Some use derivatives of
> Linux, on which approximately 1% of useful software will run. Others use
> Apple, which costs approximately 150% of a PC for the same functionality,
> and Apple software choices are reduced by about 90%.
>
> Some of these passionate but misguided people seem to subscribe to a
> belief system that is a cross between Islam and Scientology.
>
> It would be great if everyone in this Vista discussion group actually used
> Vista, and helped each other solve problems and fully exploit that
> excellent OS. I, for one, would promise never, ever, EVER to hassle them
> in their Linux discussions...