Installing UPGRADE disc without previous versions of Windows

There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of Windows
Vista...

In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with only a
single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version Windows. You
would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you to
insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique doesn’t
seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a full
version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version of
Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is complete and
you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows and
reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you legally
obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated version
of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.

"Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote in message
news:C9275C26-008F-4486-B108-...
> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of Windows
> Vista...
>
> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with only a
> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version Windows.
> You
> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you to
> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique doesn’t
> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a full
> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version of
> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is complete
> and
> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows and
> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you legally
> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated
> version
> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.


Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw about the
upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP. The process was
changed. So what is your question or issue?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote
> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of Windows
> Vista...
>
> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with only a
> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version Windows.
> You
> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you to
> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique doesn’t
> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a full
> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version of
> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is complete
> and
> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows and
> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you legally
> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated
> version
> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.


See for example:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Rock" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote in
> message news:C9275C26-008F-4486-B108-...
>> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of Windows
>> Vista...
>>
>> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with only
>> a
>> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version Windows.
>> You
>> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you to
>> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
>> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique
>> doesn’t
>> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a
>> full
>> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version of
>> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
>> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is complete
>> and
>> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows and
>> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you legally
>> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated
>> version
>> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.
>
>
> Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw about
> the upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP. The process
> was changed. So what is your question or issue?
>
> --

A better question might be what is your issue? All he is doing is passing
along some information he's discovered. I believe that's in scope for this
group, whether it's been reported or not.

Art

"Art Wakefield" <> wrote

> "Rock" <> wrote

>> "Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote
>>> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of Windows
>>> Vista...
>>>
>>> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with only
>>> a
>>> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version Windows.
>>> You
>>> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you to
>>> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
>>> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique
>>> doesn’t
>>> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a
>>> full
>>> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version of
>>> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
>>> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is complete
>>> and
>>> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows and
>>> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you legally
>>> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated
>>> version
>>> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.
>>
>>
>> Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw about
>> the upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP. The process
>> was changed. So what is your question or issue?
>>
>> --
>
> A better question might be what is your issue? All he is doing is passing
> along some information he's discovered. I believe that's in scope for
> this group, whether it's been reported or not.

He starts out by saying there is a flaw in the upgrade process. I'm trying
to clarify what it is he is posting about. Is he wanting to report a bug or
pass or info or ask a question? It's not clear. Hence my asking what is
the question or issue.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Rock" <> wrote in message
news:eIHT$...
> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
>
>> "Rock" <> wrote
>
>>> "Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote
>>>> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of
>>>> Windows
>>>> Vista...
>>>>
>>>> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with
>>>> only a
>>>> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version Windows.
>>>> You
>>>> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you
>>>> to
>>>> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
>>>> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique
>>>> doesn’t
>>>> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a
>>>> full
>>>> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version
>>>> of
>>>> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
>>>> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is
>>>> complete and
>>>> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows
>>>> and
>>>> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you legally
>>>> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated
>>>> version
>>>> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw about
>>> the upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP. The process
>>> was changed. So what is your question or issue?
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> A better question might be what is your issue? All he is doing is
>> passing along some information he's discovered. I believe that's in
>> scope for this group, whether it's been reported or not.
>
> He starts out by saying there is a flaw in the upgrade process. I'm
> trying to clarify what it is he is posting about. Is he wanting to report
> a bug or pass or info or ask a question? It's not clear. Hence my asking
> what is the question or issue.
>
> --

Weak, very weak. He didn't ask a question or seek help. This line might be
an indicator:

"however, there is a way to install a full version of Vista from an upgrade
disc... without any previous version of Windows. "

Don't pretend you were trying to be helpful. He was very clear.

Joshua, thanks for the post. I was unaware of this process.

Art

"Art Wakefield" <> wrote

> "Rock" <> wrote

>> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
>>
>>> "Rock" <> wrote
>>
>>>> "Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote
>>>>> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Vista...
>>>>>
>>>>> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with
>>>>> only a
>>>>> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version
>>>>> Windows. You
>>>>> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you
>>>>> to
>>>>> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
>>>>> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique
>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a
>>>>> full
>>>>> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version
>>>>> of
>>>>> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
>>>>> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is
>>>>> complete and
>>>>> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows
>>>>> and
>>>>> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you legally
>>>>> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated
>>>>> version
>>>>> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw about
>>>> the upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP. The
>>>> process was changed. So what is your question or issue?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> A better question might be what is your issue? All he is doing is
>>> passing along some information he's discovered. I believe that's in
>>> scope for this group, whether it's been reported or not.
>>
>> He starts out by saying there is a flaw in the upgrade process. I'm
>> trying to clarify what it is he is posting about. Is he wanting to
>> report a bug or pass or info or ask a question? It's not clear. Hence
>> my asking what is the question or issue.
>>
>> --
>
> Weak, very weak. He didn't ask a question or seek help. This line might
> be an indicator:
>
> "however, there is a way to install a full version of Vista from an
> upgrade disc... without any previous version of Windows. "
>
> Don't pretend you were trying to be helpful. He was very clear.
>
> Joshua, thanks for the post. I was unaware of this process.

That's your opinion. It wasn't clear and that's why I ended with a
question.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Rock" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
>
>> "Rock" <> wrote
>
>>> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
>>>
>>>> "Rock" <> wrote
>>>
>>>>> "Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote
>>>>>> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> Vista...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with
>>>>>> only a
>>>>>> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version
>>>>>> Windows. You
>>>>>> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt you
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
>>>>>> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique
>>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>>> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install a
>>>>>> full
>>>>>> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous version
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
>>>>>> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is
>>>>>> complete and
>>>>>> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you
>>>>>> legally
>>>>>> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full, activated
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw
>>>>> about the upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP. The
>>>>> process was changed. So what is your question or issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> A better question might be what is your issue? All he is doing is
>>>> passing along some information he's discovered. I believe that's in
>>>> scope for this group, whether it's been reported or not.
>>>
>>> He starts out by saying there is a flaw in the upgrade process. I'm
>>> trying to clarify what it is he is posting about. Is he wanting to
>>> report a bug or pass or info or ask a question? It's not clear. Hence
>>> my asking what is the question or issue.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Weak, very weak. He didn't ask a question or seek help. This line might
>> be an indicator:
>>
>> "however, there is a way to install a full version of Vista from an
>> upgrade disc... without any previous version of Windows. "
>>
>> Don't pretend you were trying to be helpful. He was very clear.
>>
>> Joshua, thanks for the post. I was unaware of this process.
>
> That's your opinion. It wasn't clear and that's why I ended with a
> question.
>

I've lurked for quite a while and know you've been helpful to many, many
other folks. It's just one of those things that struck me as odd. I guess
all the trolls have been getting to me. Sometimes this ng seems more about
fighting trolls than Vista. My bad.

Thanks for the good work that you do Rock.

Art

"Art Wakefield" <> wrote

> "Rock" <> wrote

>> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
>>
>>> "Rock" <> wrote
>>
>>>> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> "Rock" <> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> "Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote
>>>>>>> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> Vista...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with
>>>>>>> only a
>>>>>>> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version
>>>>>>> Windows. You
>>>>>>> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt
>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
>>>>>>> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique
>>>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>>>> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install
>>>>>>> a full
>>>>>>> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous
>>>>>>> version of
>>>>>>> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
>>>>>>> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is
>>>>>>> complete and
>>>>>>> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you
>>>>>>> legally
>>>>>>> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full,
>>>>>>> activated version
>>>>>>> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw
>>>>>> about the upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP.
>>>>>> The process was changed. So what is your question or issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> A better question might be what is your issue? All he is doing is
>>>>> passing along some information he's discovered. I believe that's in
>>>>> scope for this group, whether it's been reported or not.
>>>>
>>>> He starts out by saying there is a flaw in the upgrade process. I'm
>>>> trying to clarify what it is he is posting about. Is he wanting to
>>>> report a bug or pass or info or ask a question? It's not clear. Hence
>>>> my asking what is the question or issue.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Weak, very weak. He didn't ask a question or seek help. This line
>>> might be an indicator:
>>>
>>> "however, there is a way to install a full version of Vista from an
>>> upgrade disc... without any previous version of Windows. "
>>>
>>> Don't pretend you were trying to be helpful. He was very clear.
>>>
>>> Joshua, thanks for the post. I was unaware of this process.
>>
>> That's your opinion. It wasn't clear and that's why I ended with a
>> question.
>>
>
> I've lurked for quite a while and know you've been helpful to many, many
> other folks. It's just one of those things that struck me as odd. I
> guess all the trolls have been getting to me. Sometimes this ng seems
> more about fighting trolls than Vista. My bad.
>
> Thanks for the good work that you do Rock.


Thanks Art. Yeah the trolls are bad. They hurt a lot of folks here,
especially the unsuspecting new people who just come here for help.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Sorry for the confusion, I was only trying to help. Still seems a little odd
to have two different install medias (at different prices) if you can
accomplish the same task with both.
What is a "troll"?

"Rock" wrote:

> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
>
> > "Rock" <> wrote
>
> >> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
> >>
> >>> "Rock" <> wrote
> >>
> >>>> "Art Wakefield" <> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>> "Rock" <> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>>> "Jöshua Barnett" <Jöshua > wrote
> >>>>>>> There is a small flaw in the Upgrade installation programming of
> >>>>>>> Windows
> >>>>>>> Vista...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In the past, you could upgrade a blank (formatted) hard drive, with
> >>>>>>> only a
> >>>>>>> single upgrade disc and a full version of any previous version
> >>>>>>> Windows. You
> >>>>>>> would start with the upgrade disc, and eventually it would prompt
> >>>>>>> you to
> >>>>>>> insert the full version disc from a previous version of Windows.
> >>>>>>> Now, I’ve only installed Vistas twice so far, but the same technique
> >>>>>>> doesn’t
> >>>>>>> seem to work with Windows Vista; however, there is a way to install
> >>>>>>> a full
> >>>>>>> version of Vista from an upgrade disc... without any previous
> >>>>>>> version of
> >>>>>>> Windows. You need to install Vista (with only the upgrade disc you
> >>>>>>> purchased) without entering a product key. Once the install is
> >>>>>>> complete and
> >>>>>>> you are staring a the desktop, start the install from within Windows
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> reinstall it as an upgrade. This time use the product key you
> >>>>>>> legally
> >>>>>>> obtained, and reinstall the same version. You have a full,
> >>>>>>> activated version
> >>>>>>> of Vista... from only the upgrade disc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok so this is old news, long known and reported. It's not a flaw
> >>>>>> about the upgrade process not accepting the shiny media as in XP.
> >>>>>> The process was changed. So what is your question or issue?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A better question might be what is your issue? All he is doing is
> >>>>> passing along some information he's discovered. I believe that's in
> >>>>> scope for this group, whether it's been reported or not.
> >>>>
> >>>> He starts out by saying there is a flaw in the upgrade process. I'm
> >>>> trying to clarify what it is he is posting about. Is he wanting to
> >>>> report a bug or pass or info or ask a question? It's not clear. Hence
> >>>> my asking what is the question or issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>
> >>> Weak, very weak. He didn't ask a question or seek help. This line
> >>> might be an indicator:
> >>>
> >>> "however, there is a way to install a full version of Vista from an
> >>> upgrade disc... without any previous version of Windows. "
> >>>
> >>> Don't pretend you were trying to be helpful. He was very clear.
> >>>
> >>> Joshua, thanks for the post. I was unaware of this process.
> >>
> >> That's your opinion. It wasn't clear and that's why I ended with a
> >> question.
> >>
> >
> > I've lurked for quite a while and know you've been helpful to many, many
> > other folks. It's just one of those things that struck me as odd. I
> > guess all the trolls have been getting to me. Sometimes this ng seems
> > more about fighting trolls than Vista. My bad.
> >
> > Thanks for the good work that you do Rock.
>
>
> Thanks Art. Yeah the trolls are bad. They hurt a lot of folks here,
> especially the unsuspecting new people who just come here for help.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>