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C.B.
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      03-17-2008
In late February of 2007 I purchased a new computer with Vista Premium
x86 preinstalled. The Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD was included with the
computer. In late February of 2007 I also purchased the retail Vista
Ultimate Upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax and did a clean x86 install from boot
using the retail DVD.
I would like to uninstall my Vista Ultimate and reinstall it with SP1
already integrated within the OS. I always like to install an OS with the
service pack already included within the install as opposed to downloading
and installing the service pack into an existing installed OS. Personally, I
feel this is always the best way to go although many people think otherwise.
Is there a way for me to do this using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD?
It has never been used before. Are the different versions of Vista actually
on the Anytime Upgrade DVD or does the DVD "phone home" for the correct OS
once the license key is provided? I've never had a need to use the Anytime
Upgrade DVD so I am ignorant as to how it works. If I am indeed able to
install Vista Ultimate SP1 by using the Anytime Upgrade DVD could I do it
upon the release of SP1 on 03/18/2008 or would I have to wait until
mid-April when it is released for automatic updates?
If I cannot do this by using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD will
Microsoft send me a new Ultimate DVD with SP1 already incorporated into the
OS, provided I can show a valid license key, for a nominal charge (if so,
how do I contact Microsoft?) or will I be expected to purchase an additional
Vista Ultimate upgrade and pay the retail price for it? Of course, I don't
intend to pay retail again for something I already have.
If none of these scenarios are valid are there any other available
avenues to accomplish what I wish, short of purchasing an additional
Ultimate DVD with SP1 included? If not, I'll just leave everything as it is.
I was offered SP1 through Windows Update two weeks ago, got tired of seeing
it in WU available updates, got tired of not being able to remove it from
Windows Update and finally decided to just install it a few days ago. I
checked it after I installed it and ended up with:
6.0.6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840 (according to TweakVista assessment). It
shows up elsewhere on my system as Service Pack 1 (Control Panel, System)
and as 6.0.6001.18000 (command prompt). I've been told that this is the
actual SP1 RTM.
Thank you for your time and any assistance provided.

C.B.


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Carey Frisch [MVP]
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      03-17-2008
The Anytime Upgrade disc is designed to upgrade from
one edition of Vista to a different edition. It requires
the purchase of a "retail product key" and will not work
with the OEM Vista product key affixed to your computer.

Anytime Upgrade FAQ:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx

I would recommend downloading SP1 from the Windows
Update site when it becomes available. It will perform
equally well. Build 6.0.6001.18000 is the final version
of SP1 and it appears you already have it installed. You do
not have to do anything further.

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"C.B." wrote:

In late February of 2007 I purchased a new computer with Vista Premium
x86 preinstalled. The Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD was included with the
computer. In late February of 2007 I also purchased the retail Vista
Ultimate Upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax and did a clean x86 install from boot
using the retail DVD.
I would like to uninstall my Vista Ultimate and reinstall it with SP1
already integrated within the OS. I always like to install an OS with the
service pack already included within the install as opposed to downloading
and installing the service pack into an existing installed OS. Personally, I
feel this is always the best way to go although many people think otherwise.
Is there a way for me to do this using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD?
It has never been used before. Are the different versions of Vista actually
on the Anytime Upgrade DVD or does the DVD "phone home" for the correct OS
once the license key is provided? I've never had a need to use the Anytime
Upgrade DVD so I am ignorant as to how it works. If I am indeed able to
install Vista Ultimate SP1 by using the Anytime Upgrade DVD could I do it
upon the release of SP1 on 03/18/2008 or would I have to wait until
mid-April when it is released for automatic updates?
If I cannot do this by using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD will
Microsoft send me a new Ultimate DVD with SP1 already incorporated into the
OS, provided I can show a valid license key, for a nominal charge (if so,
how do I contact Microsoft?) or will I be expected to purchase an additional
Vista Ultimate upgrade and pay the retail price for it? Of course, I don't
intend to pay retail again for something I already have.
If none of these scenarios are valid are there any other available
avenues to accomplish what I wish, short of purchasing an additional
Ultimate DVD with SP1 included? If not, I'll just leave everything as it is.
I was offered SP1 through Windows Update two weeks ago, got tired of seeing
it in WU available updates, got tired of not being able to remove it from
Windows Update and finally decided to just install it a few days ago. I
checked it after I installed it and ended up with:
6.0.6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840 (according to TweakVista assessment). It
shows up elsewhere on my system as Service Pack 1 (Control Panel, System)
and as 6.0.6001.18000 (command prompt). I've been told that this is the
actual SP1 RTM.
Thank you for your time and any assistance provided.

C.B.


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Brian88135
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      03-17-2008

All my system says *Build 6001:Service Pack 1*

Does that mean that mean that I need to update it to whatever the new
SP1 will be when it comes out tomorrow?

Thanks
Brian


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      03-18-2008
Mr. Frisch,

Thank you for your assistance. However, there is something I don't
understand about your answer. I purchased the retail Vista Ultimate upgrade
DVDs from OfficeMax. The OEM Vista Home Premium was replaced by the retail
Vista Ultimate upgrade DVD, which has a retail product key. I cannot use the
Ultimate retail product key with the Anytime Upgrade DVD?
Again, thank you for your time and assistance.

C.B.


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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> The Anytime Upgrade disc is designed to upgrade from
> one edition of Vista to a different edition. It requires
> the purchase of a "retail product key" and will not work
> with the OEM Vista product key affixed to your computer.
>
> Anytime Upgrade FAQ:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx
>
> I would recommend downloading SP1 from the Windows
> Update site when it becomes available. It will perform
> equally well. Build 6.0.6001.18000 is the final version
> of SP1 and it appears you already have it installed. You do
> not have to do anything further.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "C.B." wrote:
>
> In late February of 2007 I purchased a new computer with Vista Premium
> x86 preinstalled. The Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD was included with the
> computer. In late February of 2007 I also purchased the retail Vista
> Ultimate Upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax and did a clean x86 install from boot
> using the retail DVD.
> I would like to uninstall my Vista Ultimate and reinstall it with SP1
> already integrated within the OS. I always like to install an OS with the
> service pack already included within the install as opposed to downloading
> and installing the service pack into an existing installed OS. Personally,
> I
> feel this is always the best way to go although many people think
> otherwise.
> Is there a way for me to do this using the Windows Anytime Upgrade
> DVD?
> It has never been used before. Are the different versions of Vista
> actually
> on the Anytime Upgrade DVD or does the DVD "phone home" for the correct OS
> once the license key is provided? I've never had a need to use the Anytime
> Upgrade DVD so I am ignorant as to how it works. If I am indeed able to
> install Vista Ultimate SP1 by using the Anytime Upgrade DVD could I do it
> upon the release of SP1 on 03/18/2008 or would I have to wait until
> mid-April when it is released for automatic updates?
> If I cannot do this by using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD will
> Microsoft send me a new Ultimate DVD with SP1 already incorporated into
> the
> OS, provided I can show a valid license key, for a nominal charge (if so,
> how do I contact Microsoft?) or will I be expected to purchase an
> additional
> Vista Ultimate upgrade and pay the retail price for it? Of course, I don't
> intend to pay retail again for something I already have.
> If none of these scenarios are valid are there any other available
> avenues to accomplish what I wish, short of purchasing an additional
> Ultimate DVD with SP1 included? If not, I'll just leave everything as it
> is.
> I was offered SP1 through Windows Update two weeks ago, got tired of
> seeing
> it in WU available updates, got tired of not being able to remove it from
> Windows Update and finally decided to just install it a few days ago. I
> checked it after I installed it and ended up with:
> 6.0.6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840 (according to TweakVista assessment). It
> shows up elsewhere on my system as Service Pack 1 (Control Panel, System)
> and as 6.0.6001.18000 (command prompt). I've been told that this is the
> actual SP1 RTM.
> Thank you for your time and any assistance provided.
>
> C.B.
>
>
> --
> It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
> and unfortunate among us.
>
>
>

 
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      03-18-2008
C.B. wrote:

> Mr. Frisch,
>
> Thank you for your assistance. However, there is something I don't
> understand about your answer. I purchased the retail Vista Ultimate
> upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax. The OEM Vista Home Premium was replaced by
> the retail Vista Ultimate upgrade DVD, which has a retail product key. I
> cannot use the Ultimate retail product key with the Anytime Upgrade DVD?
> Again, thank you for your time and assistance.
>
> C.B.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930733

I found the above link on the page Carey gave you.

Quote:

Note Windows Anytime Upgrade is available on the following editions of
Windows Vista:
• Windows Vista Home Basic
• Windows Vista Home Premium
• Windows Vista Business
• Windows Vista Home Basic N
• Windows Vista Business N

So I would guess that Ultimate isn't eligible.

SP1 isn't technically an "upgrade" anyway.

As for doing a clean install when new service packs come out, I do the
same thing. However, there really shouldn't be a difference if you do a
clean install with your present media, and then update to SP1 immediately
afterwards.

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      03-18-2008


"kurttrail" <> wrote in message
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> C.B. wrote:
>
>> Mr. Frisch,
>>
>> Thank you for your assistance. However, there is something I don't
>> understand about your answer. I purchased the retail Vista Ultimate
>> upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax. The OEM Vista Home Premium was replaced by
>> the retail Vista Ultimate upgrade DVD, which has a retail product key. I
>> cannot use the Ultimate retail product key with the Anytime Upgrade DVD?
>> Again, thank you for your time and assistance.
>>
>> C.B.

>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930733
>
> I found the above link on the page Carey gave you.
>
> Quote:
>
> Note Windows Anytime Upgrade is available on the following editions of
> Windows Vista:
> • Windows Vista Home Basic
> • Windows Vista Home Premium
> • Windows Vista Business
> • Windows Vista Home Basic N
> • Windows Vista Business N
>
> So I would guess that Ultimate isn't eligible.
>
> SP1 isn't technically an "upgrade" anyway.
>
> As for doing a clean install when new service packs come out, I do the
> same thing. However, there really shouldn't be a difference if you do a
> clean install with your present media, and then update to SP1 immediately
> afterwards.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/9307...microsoft.com/
> kb/930733
>


Kurt,

OK. I understand the Windows Anytime Upgrade now. It's apparently for
upgrade use only as opposed to a clean install. I guess that option is gone.
I realize SP1 isn't an upgrade. I was just trying to figure out a way
to do a single clean install that already incorporated the SP1 within it.
I'll just borrow a Vista Ultimate SP1 from someone when they are
available, use that retail full or upgrade DVD and my Ultimate retail
license key. Shouldn't be a problem as I always do a clean install from my
Ultimate upgrade DVD.
Anyway, I appreciate your reply.

C.B.


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      03-19-2008

"kurttrail" <> wrote in message
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>
> As for doing a clean install when new service packs come out, I do the
> same thing. However, there really shouldn't be a difference if you do a
> clean install with your present media, and then update to SP1 immediately
> afterwards.
>

I would suggest not turning on automatic updates after installing Vista,
then install SP1, and then all your drivers. Then turn on the auto updates.
This will prevent Vista from trying to install driver updates from Windows
Update.

 
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