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Geoff
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      11-29-2007
David,

Thanks much for goign to that effort to uncover the codes. I ran the tool
this a.m. in my pajamas and had to get to work so I have not done those
searches. Your legwork will save me lots of time tonight when I get home.

But I had a good LOL at this response from Dell Tech Support, where I opened
an incident this morning after posting to the MS group:

" I would suggest you to download and install Firefox (one of the best and
the most reliable browser available in market) on this computer. I have given
below the link from where you will be able to download Firefox, free of cost.
The steps to download and install
Firefox are given below:
1. Open the link given below in a new Window.
http://www.download.com/3000-2356_4-10744221.html
2. Click Download Now.
3. Click Save.
4. Save the Firefox file on the desktop.
5. After the file is saved, close all the windows.
6. Double click Firefox file, saved on the desktop.
7. Follow the on-screen instructions to install Firefox. While launching
Firefox, it will ask for your permission to import the Internet Options
(settings) from Internet Explorer. We do not want Firefox browser to use
Internet Explorer settings. We want it to use its own settings. Please check
the
option which to ensure that it uses its own settings.
8. Check the computer with Firefox."

Isn't this hilarious? Especially the editorial comment <<one of the best
and the most reliable browser available in market>> I wonder if Bill G.
knows that Dell tech reps are making these suggestions!

I'll search the links you recommended tonight and let you know how I fare.
Here goes the old my-time-is-valuable-down-the-rathole exercise.


"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:

>
> "Geoff" <> wrote in message news:601D36A5-6AED-4CD0-B2D4-...
>
> > David, that's no big deal. At least it doesn't crap out as soon as it starts
> > for a million different reasons.

>
> I hate to be one of those that says, "I don't have that issue" and can not offer
> any help. ;-) But seriously, I'm not moving any of my personal boxes to
> VISTA permanently for some time to come... so I'm not much help other
> than on older OS's.
>
> > Ever since I got my new Dell desktop this has been happening to me: IE7 is
> > getting this "Internet Explorer has stopped working" message as soon as I
> > start it. I have created a few Internet shortcuts on my desktop to start IE7
> > with various pages as the initial page (my.yahoo.com, comcast.net,
> > www.annoyances.org). My home page is my.yahoo.com, but often when I start IE7
> > it pops this message and stops immediately. Also happens with the comcast.net
> > shortcut. But when I start the shortcut for www.annoyances.org, it never gets
> > the error. Then I can navigate anywhere on the web and it stays running.

>
> What happens when you simply set each of these as the 'default' home page in IE7 ?
>
> > The other time I get this error is if I start typing a long search into the
> > Google toolbar search window. After about 16 characters, IE7 freezes
> > completely and I have to start Task Mgr to kill it. Any ideas?

>
> Say Goodbye to the Google toolbar, at least temporarily. Uninstall it.
> Then run through the IE7 options and disable all 3rd party plug-ins.
>
> Does your IE7 browser say *anything* in the title bar besides " I E by Microsoft" ?
>
>
>
>
> > "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "W J Rushton" <> wrote in...
> > >
> > > > Use Mozilla Firefox it's more stable,
> > >
> > > And doesn't fully integrate. One example: Firefox will not read an M3u
> > > MP3 playlist and launch WMP. It reads the playlist as a text page (some
> > > times with hot links, some times without) of addresses. Each address
> > > that should have already opened WMP and begun the playback play as
> > > a sequence of songs, has to be pasted into the browser window and then
> > > fully dowloaded before playing. There are other integration issues as well.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
>
>

 
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John Barnes
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      11-29-2007
Anyone who thinks they can remove IE is a fool. The best that happens is
the shortcuts are removed.
Go to Start/all programs/accessories/system tools/internet explorer (no
add-ons). Most likely you will not have a problem. That narrows it down to
some add-on that you have installed.


"Geoff" <> wrote in message
news:8FA5A2BE-4738-403B-AEE9-...
> David,
>
> Thanks much for goign to that effort to uncover the codes. I ran the tool
> this a.m. in my pajamas and had to get to work so I have not done those
> searches. Your legwork will save me lots of time tonight when I get home.
>
> But I had a good LOL at this response from Dell Tech Support, where I
> opened
> an incident this morning after posting to the MS group:
>
> " I would suggest you to download and install Firefox (one of the best and
> the most reliable browser available in market) on this computer. I have
> given
> below the link from where you will be able to download Firefox, free of
> cost.
> The steps to download and install
> Firefox are given below:
> 1. Open the link given below in a new Window.
> http://www.download.com/3000-2356_4-10744221.html
> 2. Click Download Now.
> 3. Click Save.
> 4. Save the Firefox file on the desktop.
> 5. After the file is saved, close all the windows.
> 6. Double click Firefox file, saved on the desktop.
> 7. Follow the on-screen instructions to install Firefox. While launching
> Firefox, it will ask for your permission to import the Internet Options
> (settings) from Internet Explorer. We do not want Firefox browser to use
> Internet Explorer settings. We want it to use its own settings. Please
> check
> the
> option which to ensure that it uses its own settings.
> 8. Check the computer with Firefox."
>
> Isn't this hilarious? Especially the editorial comment <<one of the best
> and the most reliable browser available in market>> I wonder if Bill G.
> knows that Dell tech reps are making these suggestions!
>
> I'll search the links you recommended tonight and let you know how I fare.
> Here goes the old my-time-is-valuable-down-the-rathole exercise.
>
>
> "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Geoff" <> wrote in message
>> news:601D36A5-6AED-4CD0-B2D4-...
>>
>> > David, that's no big deal. At least it doesn't crap out as soon as it
>> > starts
>> > for a million different reasons.

>>
>> I hate to be one of those that says, "I don't have that issue" and can
>> not offer
>> any help. ;-) But seriously, I'm not moving any of my personal boxes
>> to
>> VISTA permanently for some time to come... so I'm not much help other
>> than on older OS's.
>>
>> > Ever since I got my new Dell desktop this has been happening to me:
>> > IE7 is
>> > getting this "Internet Explorer has stopped working" message as soon as
>> > I
>> > start it. I have created a few Internet shortcuts on my desktop to
>> > start IE7
>> > with various pages as the initial page (my.yahoo.com, comcast.net,
>> > www.annoyances.org). My home page is my.yahoo.com, but often when I
>> > start IE7
>> > it pops this message and stops immediately. Also happens with the
>> > comcast.net
>> > shortcut. But when I start the shortcut for www.annoyances.org, it
>> > never gets
>> > the error. Then I can navigate anywhere on the web and it stays
>> > running.

>>
>> What happens when you simply set each of these as the 'default' home page
>> in IE7 ?
>>
>> > The other time I get this error is if I start typing a long search into
>> > the
>> > Google toolbar search window. After about 16 characters, IE7 freezes
>> > completely and I have to start Task Mgr to kill it. Any ideas?

>>
>> Say Goodbye to the Google toolbar, at least temporarily. Uninstall it.
>> Then run through the IE7 options and disable all 3rd party plug-ins.
>>
>> Does your IE7 browser say *anything* in the title bar besides " I E by
>> Microsoft" ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "W J Rushton" <> wrote in...
>> > >
>> > > > Use Mozilla Firefox it's more stable,
>> > >
>> > > And doesn't fully integrate. One example: Firefox will not read an
>> > > M3u
>> > > MP3 playlist and launch WMP. It reads the playlist as a text page
>> > > (some
>> > > times with hot links, some times without) of addresses. Each address
>> > > that should have already opened WMP and begun the playback play as
>> > > a sequence of songs, has to be pasted into the browser window and
>> > > then
>> > > fully dowloaded before playing. There are other integration issues
>> > > as well.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >

>>
>>
>>


 
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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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      11-29-2007

"Geoff" <> wrote in message news:8FA5A2BE-4738-403B-AEE9-...
> David,
>
> Thanks much for goign to that effort to uncover the codes. I ran the tool
> this a.m. in my pajamas and had to get to work so I have not done those
> searches. Your legwork will save me lots of time tonight when I get home.
>
> But I had a good LOL at this response from Dell Tech Support, where I opened
> an incident this morning after posting to the MS group:


Mmmmmmm........ :-(

> "I would suggest you to download and install Firefox (one of the best and
> the most reliable browser available in market) on this computer. I have given
> below the link from where you will be able to download Firefox, free of cost.


Of course it's *free*. So are IE and Netscape... and all the other malware
plug-ins, tool-bars. and browser hi-jackers installed courtesy of ISPs.

Something tells me you were talking to someone in India who's in 'level one'
tech support, and isn't exactly sitting along side those who pay his/her salary
and owe their very existence to Microsoft.

I really am surprised at the Dell rep.... they have a *great* deal of money
invested in Microsoft products, and this essentially represents absolutely
ZERO effort to try and remedy your real issues.... it's nothing more than
an effort to turn your attention away from the issue and leave the corrupt
problem in place by hiding it, when FF could have cause it.


> The steps to download and install
> Firefox are given below:
> 1. Open the link given below in a new Window.
> http://www.download.com/3000-2356_4-10744221.html
> 2. Click Download Now.
> 3. Click Save.
> 4. Save the Firefox file on the desktop.
> 5. After the file is saved, close all the windows.
> 6. Double click Firefox file, saved on the desktop.
> 7. Follow the on-screen instructions to install Firefox. While launching
> Firefox, it will ask for your permission to import the Internet Options
> (settings) from Internet Explorer. We do not want Firefox browser to use
> Internet Explorer settings. We want it to use its own settings. Please check
> the option which to ensure that it uses its own settings.
> 8. Check the computer with Firefox."


Grrrooaaaaannnnnnnnn.................. :-\ Oh well. It's a good browser,
it just (like all other invasions of the MS OS) doesn't always play nicely.

> Isn't this hilarious? Especially the editorial comment <<one of the best
> and the most reliable browser available in market>> I wonder if Bill G.
> knows that Dell tech reps are making these suggestions!


Yes... more than hilarious. I don't know of a single PC that has installed
a third party (to MS) browser that didn't encounter problems when once
again trying to use Internet Explorer. That's my experience -- it doesn't
have to be yours and many people will tell me that I'm crazy -- but my
experience tells me there are always issues when you start altering the
OS or the Microsoft IE.

Obviously though.. if you like it, you need to tweak it and never use IE again.

Personally, I'd go back to IE6 by uninstall both of these monsters along with
any and all toolbars and plugs. Then I would manually go the MS Windows
Update, select "custom," and permanently hide the IE7 download. But again,
that's just me.

If you're permanently on VISTA, you _can't_ remove IE7, but you can dump
all the toolbars and 3rd party plug-ins. IE7 on a new VISTA machine also
*forces* you to leave at least one search bar preference, and I can't remember
if that search bar can be turned off or removed from the IE tools palette.

> I'll search the links you recommended tonight and let you know how I fare.
> Here goes the old my-time-is-valuable-down-the-rathole exercise.


If your "Microsoft Internet Explorer" has been hi-jacked by Yahoo! or another
ISP or search engine and altered the title bar to reflect such, you may still
have issues... even without Mozilla.

Essentially Geoff, here's what we're saddled with... people think they're
going to suddenly become free of viruses or at least be less susceptible
to them if they don't use a Microsoft browser. It's like a bad wive's tale.


--
David B. Morgan (MAMS)
Morgan Audio Media Service
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_____________________________
http://www.januarysound.com



> "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Geoff" <> wrote in message news:601D36A5-6AED-4CD0-B2D4-...
> >
> > > David, that's no big deal. At least it doesn't crap out as soon as it starts
> > > for a million different reasons.

> >
> > I hate to be one of those that says, "I don't have that issue" and can not offer
> > any help. ;-) But seriously, I'm not moving any of my personal boxes to
> > VISTA permanently for some time to come... so I'm not much help other
> > than on older OS's.
> >
> > > Ever since I got my new Dell desktop this has been happening to me: IE7 is
> > > getting this "Internet Explorer has stopped working" message as soon as I
> > > start it. I have created a few Internet shortcuts on my desktop to start IE7
> > > with various pages as the initial page (my.yahoo.com, comcast.net,
> > > www.annoyances.org). My home page is my.yahoo.com, but often when I start IE7
> > > it pops this message and stops immediately. Also happens with the comcast.net
> > > shortcut. But when I start the shortcut for www.annoyances.org, it never gets
> > > the error. Then I can navigate anywhere on the web and it stays running.

> >
> > What happens when you simply set each of these as the 'default' home page in IE7 ?
> >
> > > The other time I get this error is if I start typing a long search into the
> > > Google toolbar search window. After about 16 characters, IE7 freezes
> > > completely and I have to start Task Mgr to kill it. Any ideas?

> >
> > Say Goodbye to the Google toolbar, at least temporarily. Uninstall it.
> > Then run through the IE7 options and disable all 3rd party plug-ins.
> >
> > Does your IE7 browser say *anything* in the title bar besides " I E by Microsoft" ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "W J Rushton" <> wrote in...
> > > >
> > > > > Use Mozilla Firefox it's more stable,
> > > >
> > > > And doesn't fully integrate. One example: Firefox will not read an M3u
> > > > MP3 playlist and launch WMP. It reads the playlist as a text page (some
> > > > times with hot links, some times without) of addresses. Each address
> > > > that should have already opened WMP and begun the playback play as
> > > > a sequence of songs, has to be pasted into the browser window and then
> > > > fully dowloaded before playing. There are other integration issues as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> >
> >



 
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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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      11-29-2007

"John Barnes" <> wrote in message...

> Anyone who thinks they can remove IE is a fool.


Agreed. What's your point?

> Go to Start/all programs/accessories/system tools/internet explorer (no
> add-ons). Most likely you will not have a problem. That narrows it down to
> some add-on that you have installed.


Good.




 
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Geoff
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      01-12-2008
Been away for a while...busy holiday season compounded by my wife's mother
dying. Here's the deal-breaker: my wife works from home, is a federal gov't
lawyer, and must of course use email and Word[im]Perfect for all her
documents. Turns out that the agency's email system is Lotus-Notes based and
their ActiveX control for sending mail (at least in her agency's build) does
not work in Vista, so she can read mail but not send. Their official
solution? Use Firefox. So we did and life is wonderful for the past month.
Yahoo and Google toolbars are working fine. IE7 is still shutting down when
I happen to use it by accident.

"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:

>
> "Geoff" <> wrote in message news:8FA5A2BE-4738-403B-AEE9-...
> > David,
> >
> > Thanks much for goign to that effort to uncover the codes. I ran the tool
> > this a.m. in my pajamas and had to get to work so I have not done those
> > searches. Your legwork will save me lots of time tonight when I get home.
> >
> > But I had a good LOL at this response from Dell Tech Support, where I opened
> > an incident this morning after posting to the MS group:

>
> Mmmmmmm........ :-(
>
> > "I would suggest you to download and install Firefox (one of the best and
> > the most reliable browser available in market) on this computer. I have given
> > below the link from where you will be able to download Firefox, free of cost.

>
> Of course it's *free*. So are IE and Netscape... and all the other malware
> plug-ins, tool-bars. and browser hi-jackers installed courtesy of ISPs.
>
> Something tells me you were talking to someone in India who's in 'level one'
> tech support, and isn't exactly sitting along side those who pay his/her salary
> and owe their very existence to Microsoft.
>
> I really am surprised at the Dell rep.... they have a *great* deal of money
> invested in Microsoft products, and this essentially represents absolutely
> ZERO effort to try and remedy your real issues.... it's nothing more than
> an effort to turn your attention away from the issue and leave the corrupt
> problem in place by hiding it, when FF could have cause it.
>
>
> > The steps to download and install
> > Firefox are given below:
> > 1. Open the link given below in a new Window.
> > http://www.download.com/3000-2356_4-10744221.html
> > 2. Click Download Now.
> > 3. Click Save.
> > 4. Save the Firefox file on the desktop.
> > 5. After the file is saved, close all the windows.
> > 6. Double click Firefox file, saved on the desktop.
> > 7. Follow the on-screen instructions to install Firefox. While launching
> > Firefox, it will ask for your permission to import the Internet Options
> > (settings) from Internet Explorer. We do not want Firefox browser to use
> > Internet Explorer settings. We want it to use its own settings. Please check
> > the option which to ensure that it uses its own settings.
> > 8. Check the computer with Firefox."

>
> Grrrooaaaaannnnnnnnn.................. :-\ Oh well. It's a good browser,
> it just (like all other invasions of the MS OS) doesn't always play nicely.
>
> > Isn't this hilarious? Especially the editorial comment <<one of the best
> > and the most reliable browser available in market>> I wonder if Bill G.
> > knows that Dell tech reps are making these suggestions!

>
> Yes... more than hilarious. I don't know of a single PC that has installed
> a third party (to MS) browser that didn't encounter problems when once
> again trying to use Internet Explorer. That's my experience -- it doesn't
> have to be yours and many people will tell me that I'm crazy -- but my
> experience tells me there are always issues when you start altering the
> OS or the Microsoft IE.
>
> Obviously though.. if you like it, you need to tweak it and never use IE again.
>
> Personally, I'd go back to IE6 by uninstall both of these monsters along with
> any and all toolbars and plugs. Then I would manually go the MS Windows
> Update, select "custom," and permanently hide the IE7 download. But again,
> that's just me.
>
> If you're permanently on VISTA, you _can't_ remove IE7, but you can dump
> all the toolbars and 3rd party plug-ins. IE7 on a new VISTA machine also
> *forces* you to leave at least one search bar preference, and I can't remember
> if that search bar can be turned off or removed from the IE tools palette.
>
> > I'll search the links you recommended tonight and let you know how I fare.
> > Here goes the old my-time-is-valuable-down-the-rathole exercise.

>
> If your "Microsoft Internet Explorer" has been hi-jacked by Yahoo! or another
> ISP or search engine and altered the title bar to reflect such, you may still
> have issues... even without Mozilla.
>
> Essentially Geoff, here's what we're saddled with... people think they're
> going to suddenly become free of viruses or at least be less susceptible
> to them if they don't use a Microsoft browser. It's like a bad wive's tale.
>
>
> --
> David B. Morgan (MAMS)
> Morgan Audio Media Service
> http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
> Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
> _____________________________
> http://www.januarysound.com
>
>
>
> > "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Geoff" <> wrote in message news:601D36A5-6AED-4CD0-B2D4-...
> > >
> > > > David, that's no big deal. At least it doesn't crap out as soon as it starts
> > > > for a million different reasons.
> > >
> > > I hate to be one of those that says, "I don't have that issue" and can not offer
> > > any help. ;-) But seriously, I'm not moving any of my personal boxes to
> > > VISTA permanently for some time to come... so I'm not much help other
> > > than on older OS's.
> > >
> > > > Ever since I got my new Dell desktop this has been happening to me: IE7 is
> > > > getting this "Internet Explorer has stopped working" message as soon as I
> > > > start it. I have created a few Internet shortcuts on my desktop to start IE7
> > > > with various pages as the initial page (my.yahoo.com, comcast.net,
> > > > www.annoyances.org). My home page is my.yahoo.com, but often when I start IE7
> > > > it pops this message and stops immediately. Also happens with the comcast.net
> > > > shortcut. But when I start the shortcut for www.annoyances.org, it never gets
> > > > the error. Then I can navigate anywhere on the web and it stays running.
> > >
> > > What happens when you simply set each of these as the 'default' home page in IE7 ?
> > >
> > > > The other time I get this error is if I start typing a long search into the
> > > > Google toolbar search window. After about 16 characters, IE7 freezes
> > > > completely and I have to start Task Mgr to kill it. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Say Goodbye to the Google toolbar, at least temporarily. Uninstall it.
> > > Then run through the IE7 options and disable all 3rd party plug-ins.
> > >
> > > Does your IE7 browser say *anything* in the title bar besides " I E by Microsoft" ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "W J Rushton" <> wrote in...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Use Mozilla Firefox it's more stable,
> > > > >
> > > > > And doesn't fully integrate. One example: Firefox will not read an M3u
> > > > > MP3 playlist and launch WMP. It reads the playlist as a text page (some
> > > > > times with hot links, some times without) of addresses. Each address
> > > > > that should have already opened WMP and begun the playback play as
> > > > > a sequence of songs, has to be pasted into the browser window and then
> > > > > fully dowloaded before playing. There are other integration issues as well.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
>
>

 
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"Geoff" <> wrote in message news18CCD90-C936-4D76-9822-...
> Been away for a while...busy holiday season compounded by my wife's mother
> dying. Here's the deal-breaker: my wife works from home, is a federal gov't
> lawyer, and must of course use email and Word[im]Perfect for all her
> documents. Turns out that the agency's email system is Lotus-Notes based and
> their ActiveX control for sending mail (at least in her agency's build) does
> not work in Vista, so she can read mail but not send. Their official
> solution? Use Firefox. So we did and life is wonderful for the past month.
> Yahoo and Google toolbars are working fine. IE7 is still shutting down when
> I happen to use it by accident.




I'm sure we could work on it Jeff, but if you're happy with the way things are,
there's no need to rock the boat after finally getting the compatibility with your
wife's workplace straightened out.

Cheers,

DM


(I've seen Corel WP screw e-mail things up as well -- MS Word is better, imho).




 
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