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Veselin Markovic
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      03-13-2008
Hello! I am a newcomer to this forum and I think it's a great way to share
Windows Vista experiences among the on-line community. Now, here is what's
been troubling me.

I have successfully installed Windows 98 on Virtual PC 2007. However, I'm
having some problems with it.

The reason I did this is to be able to play games designed for Windows 98
that have compatibility issues with Windows XP and Vista (like Crimson Skies
for example). I can't install Windows 98 on a separate partition on my PC
because there are no drivers for it for my computer.

I have two main issues.

First, driver that installs automatically with Windows is S3, and it doesn't
support 3D acceleration. Is there a way to enable 3D acceleration in this
kind of virtual machine?

Second, I'm having problems with sound. Virtual PC 2007 seems to
incompatible with my Creative X-Fi sound card. Could someone suggest to me
how to resolve this, please?

I am interested to hear any ideas you might have.
 
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dzomlija
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      03-13-2008

Veselin Markovic;645096 Wrote:
> Hello! I am a newcomer to this forum and I think it's a great way t
> share Windows Vista experiences among the on-line community. Now, her
> is what's been troubling me
>
> I have successfully installed Windows 98 on Virtual PC 2007. However
> I'm having some problems with it
>
> The reason I did this is to be able to play games designed for Window
> 98 that have compatibility issues with Windows XP and Vista (lik
> Crimson Skies for example). I can't install Windows 98 on a separat
> partition on my PC because there are no drivers for it for my computer
>
> I have two main issues
>
> First, driver that installs automatically with Windows is S3, and i
> doesn't support 3D acceleration. Is there a way to enable 3
> acceleration in this kind of virtual machine
>
> Second, I'm having problems with sound. Virtual PC 2007 seems t
> incompatible with my Creative X-Fi sound card. Could someone suggest t
> me how to resolve this, please


Virtual PC display does not support 3D acceleration for guest operatin
systems

Have you been to the Creative website to check for updated Vist
drivers that you can install

Some other solutions that you can try is to allocate more memory to th
guest operating system. Increasing your physical memory will also help
Vista wants 2GB or more

Have you installed the Virtual Machine Add-Ons to your virtual Window
98? These provide optimized video and sound drivers

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-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And a
you die, so shall I be Reborn...

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen i
http://www.vistax64.com/general-disc...tml#post533290
went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the main
supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for th
insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-
' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)
 
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Veselin Markovic
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      03-13-2008
Yeah, I have installed add-ons, and updated Creative drivers. So 3D
acceleration is not supported... Is there a program othor than Virtual PC
2007 that DOES support 3D acceleration?

"dzomlija" wrote:

>
> Veselin Markovic;645096 Wrote:
> > Hello! I am a newcomer to this forum and I think it's a great way to
> > share Windows Vista experiences among the on-line community. Now, here
> > is what's been troubling me.
> >
> > I have successfully installed Windows 98 on Virtual PC 2007. However,
> > I'm having some problems with it.
> >
> > The reason I did this is to be able to play games designed for Windows
> > 98 that have compatibility issues with Windows XP and Vista (like
> > Crimson Skies for example). I can't install Windows 98 on a separate
> > partition on my PC because there are no drivers for it for my computer.
> >
> > I have two main issues.
> >
> > First, driver that installs automatically with Windows is S3, and it
> > doesn't support 3D acceleration. Is there a way to enable 3D
> > acceleration in this kind of virtual machine?
> >
> > Second, I'm having problems with sound. Virtual PC 2007 seems to
> > incompatible with my Creative X-Fi sound card. Could someone suggest to
> > me how to resolve this, please?

>
> Virtual PC display does not support 3D acceleration for guest operating
> systems.
>
> Have you been to the Creative website to check for updated Vista
> drivers that you can install?
>
>
> Some other solutions that you can try is to allocate more memory to the
> guest operating system. Increasing your physical memory will also help.
> Vista wants 2GB or more.
>
> Have you installed the Virtual Machine Add-Ons to your virtual Windows
> 98? These provide optimized video and sound drivers.
>
>
> --
> dzomlija
>
> _____________________
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-
>
> :cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
> http://www.vistax64.com/general-disc...tml#post533290)
> went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
> supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
> insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
> ' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)
>

 
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Richard G. Harper
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      03-13-2008
No, and no.

Virtual PC works by virtualizing a hardware environment for operating
systems to run under. A number of "least-common-denominator" items were
selected to be emulated such as the S3 video device, SoundBlaster 16, Intel
440BX chipset, DEC 21140 network card, and so on. There is no way to change
the emulated hardware to something else since it's hard-wired into the
Virtual PC environment.

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"Veselin Markovic" <Veselin > wrote in
message news:7A7B5A5C-A586-4EA0-876E-...
> Hello! I am a newcomer to this forum and I think it's a great way to share
> Windows Vista experiences among the on-line community. Now, here is what's
> been troubling me.
>
> I have successfully installed Windows 98 on Virtual PC 2007. However, I'm
> having some problems with it.
>
> The reason I did this is to be able to play games designed for Windows 98
> that have compatibility issues with Windows XP and Vista (like Crimson
> Skies
> for example). I can't install Windows 98 on a separate partition on my PC
> because there are no drivers for it for my computer.
>
> I have two main issues.
>
> First, driver that installs automatically with Windows is S3, and it
> doesn't
> support 3D acceleration. Is there a way to enable 3D acceleration in this
> kind of virtual machine?
>
> Second, I'm having problems with sound. Virtual PC 2007 seems to
> incompatible with my Creative X-Fi sound card. Could someone suggest to me
> how to resolve this, please?
>
> I am interested to hear any ideas you might have.


 
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dzomlija
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      03-13-2008

Veselin Markovic;645130 Wrote:
> Yeah, I have installed add-ons, and updated Creative drivers. So 3D
> acceleration is not supported... Is there a program othor than Virtual
> PC 2007 that DOES support 3D acceleration?


Not that I'm aware of, no. I don't believe that any "Virtual PC"
program can/does support 3D acceleration. You might want to look at
VMWare, although I'm not sure it'll do what you want.

As far as ease-of-use is concerned, Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is the
better choice...


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dzomlija

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Peter Alexander Dzomlija
-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
http://www.vistax64.com/general-disc...tml#post533290)
went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)
 
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Synapse Syndrome
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      03-13-2008
"Veselin Markovic" <Veselin > wrote in
message news:7A7B5A5C-A586-4EA0-876E-...
> Hello! I am a newcomer to this forum and I think it's a great way to share
> Windows Vista experiences among the on-line community. Now, here is what's
> been troubling me.
>
> I have successfully installed Windows 98 on Virtual PC 2007. However, I'm
> having some problems with it.
>
> The reason I did this is to be able to play games designed for Windows 98
> that have compatibility issues with Windows XP and Vista (like Crimson
> Skies
> for example). I can't install Windows 98 on a separate partition on my PC
> because there are no drivers for it for my computer.
>
> I have two main issues.
>
> First, driver that installs automatically with Windows is S3, and it
> doesn't
> support 3D acceleration. Is there a way to enable 3D acceleration in this
> kind of virtual machine?
>
> Second, I'm having problems with sound. Virtual PC 2007 seems to
> incompatible with my Creative X-Fi sound card. Could someone suggest to me
> how to resolve this, please?
>
> I am interested to hear any ideas you might have.


If these are DOS game, and it sounds like they are, use DOSBox instead.

http://www.dosbox.com/information.php?page=0

ss.


 
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c0d1f1ed
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      04-21-2008

You can run DirectX 8/9 applications in Virtual PC using 'SwiftShader
2.0' (http://transgaming.com/products/swif.../technology/):

'[image: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9...ldxca8.th.png]'
(http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rtualdxca8.png)

Note that it emulates Direct3D on the CPU, so it's not hardware
accelerated. However, it's still about 50 times faster than Microsoft's
reference rasterizer, so it can be adequate for simple 3D applications.


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CoCo
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      06-13-2008
Try downloading the Sound Blaster 16 driver into your Virtual OS, not your
Host OS. I had the same problem with my virtually installed Server 2003,
which by the way, servers don't have sound usually, and I have sound working
on a virtual server.

"c0d1f1ed" wrote:

>
> You can run DirectX 8/9 applications in Virtual PC using 'SwiftShader
> 2.0' (http://transgaming.com/products/swif.../technology/):
>
> '[image: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9...ldxca8.th.png]'
> (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rtualdxca8.png)
>
> Note that it emulates Direct3D on the CPU, so it's not hardware
> accelerated. However, it's still about 50 times faster than Microsoft's
> reference rasterizer, so it can be adequate for simple 3D applications.
>
>
> --
> c0d1f1ed
>

 
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