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Justin
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      01-19-2009
on my mother's laptop, the Java update will come up and it asks for the
admin login to run. Once given, it tries to run but can't.
I get a message saying failed to download installation files. The only
time it works is when I actually login under then admin, fire up Java
and then run the update.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/73067d24056652

My question is, how can I stop this admin prompt from coming up, and how
can the java update run correctly without making everyone an admin? I
am a firm believer in only letting people have the security rights they
need. Running everyone as an admin is completely unacceptable.
 
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Malke
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      01-19-2009
Justin wrote:

> on my mother's laptop, the Java update will come up and it asks for the
> admin login to run. Once given, it tries to run but can't.
> I get a message saying failed to download installation files. The only
> time it works is when I actually login under then admin, fire up Java
> and then run the update.
>
> http://www.imagebam.com/image/73067d24056652
>
> My question is, how can I stop this admin prompt from coming up, and how
> can the java update run correctly without making everyone an admin? I
> am a firm believer in only letting people have the security rights they
> need. Running everyone as an admin is completely unacceptable.


Change Java's preferences to never update. Log into the administrative user
account and run regedit. Navigate to:

HKEY_LM>Software>Microsoft>Windows>Current Version>Run

Delete the entry for Sun Java update. In your own account (if you use it
regularly), go to Control Panel>Java and set the update to "Never".
Manually check for updates on a regular basis and install them.

Log back into your mother's account. She will not be able to change Java's
update preferences in her own Control Panel applet but it won't matter
because Java will not automatically check for updates since you removed the
registry entry.

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Justin
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      01-20-2009
Malke wrote:
> Justin wrote:
>
>> on my mother's laptop, the Java update will come up and it asks for the
>> admin login to run. Once given, it tries to run but can't.
>> I get a message saying failed to download installation files. The only
>> time it works is when I actually login under then admin, fire up Java
>> and then run the update.
>>
>> http://www.imagebam.com/image/73067d24056652
>>
>> My question is, how can I stop this admin prompt from coming up, and how
>> can the java update run correctly without making everyone an admin? I
>> am a firm believer in only letting people have the security rights they
>> need. Running everyone as an admin is completely unacceptable.

>
> Change Java's preferences to never update. Log into the administrative user
> account and run regedit. Navigate to:
>
> HKEY_LM>Software>Microsoft>Windows>Current Version>Run
>
> Delete the entry for Sun Java update. In your own account (if you use it
> regularly), go to Control Panel>Java and set the update to "Never".
> Manually check for updates on a regular basis and install them.
>
> Log back into your mother's account. She will not be able to change Java's
> update preferences in her own Control Panel applet but it won't matter
> because Java will not automatically check for updates since you removed the
> registry entry.
>
> Malke



Ths problem with disabling Jave update is when she uses Paypal's print
shipping label feature, sometimes if its not updated it freezes and
doesn't print the labelm
I experienced the same thing on my XP machine.
Is there another way?
 
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Justin
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      01-20-2009
Malke wrote:
> Justin wrote:
>
>> on my mother's laptop, the Java update will come up and it asks for the
>> admin login to run. Once given, it tries to run but can't.
>> I get a message saying failed to download installation files. The only
>> time it works is when I actually login under then admin, fire up Java
>> and then run the update.
>>
>> http://www.imagebam.com/image/73067d24056652
>>
>> My question is, how can I stop this admin prompt from coming up, and how
>> can the java update run correctly without making everyone an admin? I
>> am a firm believer in only letting people have the security rights they
>> need. Running everyone as an admin is completely unacceptable.

>
> Change Java's preferences to never update. Log into the administrative user
> account and run regedit. Navigate to:
>
> HKEY_LM>Software>Microsoft>Windows>Current Version>Run
>
> Delete the entry for Sun Java update. In your own account (if you use it
> regularly), go to Control Panel>Java and set the update to "Never".
> Manually check for updates on a regular basis and install them.
>
> Log back into your mother's account. She will not be able to change Java's
> update preferences in her own Control Panel applet but it won't matter
> because Java will not automatically check for updates since you removed the
> registry entry.



There isn't a java icon in control panel.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/beabbc24139684
 
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Malke
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      01-20-2009
Justin wrote:

>Ths problem with disabling Jave update is when she uses Paypal's print
>shipping label feature, sometimes if its not updated it freezes and
>doesn't print the labelm


Well, you can't have it both ways. Either you let Java check for updates
automatically or you need to manually update it. You definitely don't want
to run with an obsolete version because that will leave you vulnerable to
malware infection.

Your problem with PayPal's "print shipping label" feature may have nothing
to do with Java automatically updating. Unless the "print shipping label"
feature was hard-coded to a particular version of Java, it shouldn't
matter. If the problem goes away when you then manually update Java, then
you know that is the case and there's nothing you can do about it except
manually update Java. If the problem still occurs after you update to the
latest version of Java, then the issue lies with PayPal's software and you
should contact their tech support.

> There isn't a java icon in control panel.
>
> http://www.imagebam.com/image/beabbc24139684


Since you are missing the Java Control Panel applet, Java must not be
installed correctly. It certainly shows up on every Vista machine on which
I've installed Java, and that is a lot of machines. If it shows up in
Programs & Features, uninstall it. If it doesn't, or the uninstall doesn't
work, you might try the free JavaRa tool to remove all old versions.

http://raproducts.org/

Then go to Sun's site and download the latest version. Currently that is the
first item on this page:

Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 11
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

Or you can post in Sun's Java support forums since this isn't really a Vista
issue.

Malke
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