join domain issues

Hi,

I have a Vista Business and a Vista Ultimate laptop. I'm trying to join a
Windows 2008 domain.
It takes forever for both machines to join the domain. If I let it sit it
eventually does maybe 40 minutes
later. Then when I log off it takes about the same amount of time to log
off??

It seems like it eventually joins the domain but takes a VERY long time. I
don't have this same issue
with Windows XP machines..

What could be the cause?

Thanks
Geo

George wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Vista Business and a Vista Ultimate laptop. I'm trying to join a
> Windows 2008 domain.
> It takes forever for both machines to join the domain. If I let it sit it
> eventually does maybe 40 minutes later.

Try this: Join to the domain, and while it seems to be taking a while
thinking about it, hit ctrl+alt+delete and bring up the task manager.
see if that makes it go any faster.

> Then when I log off it takes about the same amount of time to log
> off??

What is setup in your global policy settings? There could be something
making it take such a long time.

>
> It seems like it eventually joins the domain but takes a VERY long time. I
> don't have this same issue
> with Windows XP machines..
>
> What could be the cause?
>
> Thanks
> Geo
>
>


--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101

I'll give it a try..

But why do the XP machines come up no problem?? If I unplug the network
wire it signs on normally from a cached profile I assume.. I can plug it back
in after it's all loaded and it seems fine.

I don't really see anything to tell me what is causing the problem.. I just
don't get why an XP machine processes everything and comes up in a normal
time frame.

Thanks,
George

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster" wrote:

> George wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Vista Business and a Vista Ultimate laptop. I'm trying to join a
> > Windows 2008 domain.
> > It takes forever for both machines to join the domain. If I let it sit it
> > eventually does maybe 40 minutes later.
>
> Try this: Join to the domain, and while it seems to be taking a while
> thinking about it, hit ctrl+alt+delete and bring up the task manager.
> see if that makes it go any faster.
>
> > Then when I log off it takes about the same amount of time to log
> > off??
>
> What is setup in your global policy settings? There could be something
> making it take such a long time.
>
> >
> > It seems like it eventually joins the domain but takes a VERY long time. I
> > don't have this same issue
> > with Windows XP machines..
> >
> > What could be the cause?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Geo
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
> - Linus Torvalds
>
> DRM and unintended consequences:
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101
> .
>

I don't know about domains, but in ordinary networking, this slow
behavior usually implies that the computer is searching for a missing
computer that used to be available - e.g., one that is currently turned
off or unplugged...

Just a guess.

On 1/18/10, buf1 posted:
> I'll give it a try..

> But why do the XP machines come up no problem?? If I unplug the network
> wire it signs on normally from a cached profile I assume.. I can plug it back
> in after it's all loaded and it seems fine.

> I don't really see anything to tell me what is causing the problem.. I just
> don't get why an XP machine processes everything and comes up in a normal
> time frame.

> Thanks,
> George

> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster" wrote:

>> George wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a Vista Business and a Vista Ultimate laptop. I'm trying to join a
>>> Windows 2008 domain.
>>> It takes forever for both machines to join the domain. If I let it sit it
>>> eventually does maybe 40 minutes later.
>>
>> Try this: Join to the domain, and while it seems to be taking a while
>> thinking about it, hit ctrl+alt+delete and bring up the task manager.
>> see if that makes it go any faster.
>>
>>> Then when I log off it takes about the same amount of time to log
>>> off??
>>
>> What is setup in your global policy settings? There could be something
>> making it take such a long time.
>>
>>>
>>> It seems like it eventually joins the domain but takes a VERY long time. I
>>> don't have this same issue
>>> with Windows XP machines..
>>>
>>> What could be the cause?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Geo
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
>> - Linus Torvalds
>>
>> DRM and unintended consequences:
>> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101
>> .
>>

--
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buf1 wrote:
> I'll give it a try..

Great, post back and let us know how it goes.
>
> But why do the XP machines come up no problem?? If I unplug the network
> wire it signs on normally from a cached profile I assume.. I can plug it back
> in after it's all loaded and it seems fine.
>
> I don't really see anything to tell me what is causing the problem.. I just
> don't get why an XP machine processes everything and comes up in a normal
> time frame.
>
> Thanks,
> George

Well, TBH George, my crystal ball is on the fritz today and I have
not gotten enough info from you yet to figure out why XP does it so much
better than vista. Have you paid attention to the service pack levels
of your xp and vista machines?

>
> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster" wrote:
>
>> George wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a Vista Business and a Vista Ultimate laptop. I'm trying to join a
>>> Windows 2008 domain.
>>> It takes forever for both machines to join the domain. If I let it sit it
>>> eventually does maybe 40 minutes later.
>> Try this: Join to the domain, and while it seems to be taking a while
>> thinking about it, hit ctrl+alt+delete and bring up the task manager.
>> see if that makes it go any faster.
>>
>>> Then when I log off it takes about the same amount of time to log
>>> off??
>> What is setup in your global policy settings? There could be something
>> making it take such a long time.
>>
>>> It seems like it eventually joins the domain but takes a VERY long time. I
>>> don't have this same issue
>>> with Windows XP machines..
>>>
>>> What could be the cause?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Geo



--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101

Thanks.. I'm not asking for you to look into your cyrstal ball for the
answer.
I'm simply just asking if anyone has experienced this behavior and what they
may have
done or not done about it.. Just something to possibly help me look in the
right
direction..

Everything on all machines is up to date service pack wise.. I then plugged
a windows
7 machine in and it came up in a normal fashion similar to the XP machine..
However
the two vista machines did not. They were on the welcome screen for like 40
minutes.

IP's and all that come from the DHCP server (dns, etc.) Some people suggest
a DNS
problem or a Group Policy problem But why do the xp and windows 7 machines
come
up they are grabbing IP information from the same server?

I'm not sure where to look.. All I'm asking is if anyone has experienced a
similar problem. Googling
it, it sounds like they have with no definitive solution.. Symptoms seem
similar.



"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<> wrote in message news:hj4v06$8ho$...
> buf1 wrote:
>> I'll give it a try..
>
> Great, post back and let us know how it goes.
>>
>> But why do the XP machines come up no problem?? If I unplug the network
>> wire it signs on normally from a cached profile I assume.. I can plug it
>> back in after it's all loaded and it seems fine.
>>
>> I don't really see anything to tell me what is causing the problem.. I
>> just don't get why an XP machine processes everything and comes up in a
>> normal time frame.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> George
>
> Well, TBH George, my crystal ball is on the fritz today and I have not
> gotten enough info from you yet to figure out why XP does it so much
> better than vista. Have you paid attention to the service pack levels of
> your xp and vista machines?
>
>>
>> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster" wrote:
>>
>>> George wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Vista Business and a Vista Ultimate laptop. I'm trying to
>>>> join a Windows 2008 domain.
>>>> It takes forever for both machines to join the domain. If I let it sit
>>>> it eventually does maybe 40 minutes later.
>>> Try this: Join to the domain, and while it seems to be taking a while
>>> thinking about it, hit ctrl+alt+delete and bring up the task manager.
>>> see if that makes it go any faster.
>>>
>>>> Then when I log off it takes about the same amount of time to log off??
>>> What is setup in your global policy settings? There could be something
>>> making it take such a long time.
>>>
>>>> It seems like it eventually joins the domain but takes a VERY long
>>>> time. I don't have this same issue
>>>> with Windows XP machines..
>>>>
>>>> What could be the cause?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Geo
>
>
>
> --
> "Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
> - Linus Torvalds
>
> DRM and unintended consequences:
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101

George wrote:
> Thanks.. I'm not asking for you to look into your cyrstal ball for the
> answer.
> I'm simply just asking if anyone has experienced this behavior and what they
> may have
> done or not done about it.. Just something to possibly help me look in the
> right
> direction..
>
> Everything on all machines is up to date service pack wise.. I then plugged
> a windows
> 7 machine in and it came up in a normal fashion similar to the XP machine..
> However
> the two vista machines did not. They were on the welcome screen for like 40
> minutes.
>
> IP's and all that come from the DHCP server (dns, etc.) Some people suggest
> a DNS
> problem or a Group Policy problem But why do the xp and windows 7 machines
> come
> up they are grabbing IP information from the same server?
>
> I'm not sure where to look.. All I'm asking is if anyone has experienced a
> similar problem. Googling
> it, it sounds like they have with no definitive solution.. Symptoms seem
> similar.
>

Just one more thought, have you checked the event logs on the 2008
server & clients to see what, if anything, is happening differently on
the XP/7 machines as compared to Vista?

>
>
> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
> <> wrote in message news:hj4v06$8ho$...
>> buf1 wrote:
>>> I'll give it a try..
>> Great, post back and let us know how it goes.
>>> But why do the XP machines come up no problem?? If I unplug the network
>>> wire it signs on normally from a cached profile I assume.. I can plug it
>>> back in after it's all loaded and it seems fine.
>>>
>>> I don't really see anything to tell me what is causing the problem.. I
>>> just don't get why an XP machine processes everything and comes up in a
>>> normal time frame.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> George
>> Well, TBH George, my crystal ball is on the fritz today and I have not
>> gotten enough info from you yet to figure out why XP does it so much
>> better than vista. Have you paid attention to the service pack levels of
>> your xp and vista machines?
>>
>>> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster" wrote:
>>>
>>>> George wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Vista Business and a Vista Ultimate laptop. I'm trying to
>>>>> join a Windows 2008 domain.
>>>>> It takes forever for both machines to join the domain. If I let it sit
>>>>> it eventually does maybe 40 minutes later.
>>>> Try this: Join to the domain, and while it seems to be taking a while
>>>> thinking about it, hit ctrl+alt+delete and bring up the task manager.
>>>> see if that makes it go any faster.
>>>>
>>>>> Then when I log off it takes about the same amount of time to log off??
>>>> What is setup in your global policy settings? There could be something
>>>> making it take such a long time.
>>>>
>>>>> It seems like it eventually joins the domain but takes a VERY long
>>>>> time. I don't have this same issue
>>>>> with Windows XP machines..
>>>>>
>>>>> What could be the cause?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Geo


--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101