On 2008-05-02 10:41, DanielEKFA wrote:
> "Lim-Dul" <lim_dul_@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
> news:4818fcf1$0$15080$...
>> On 2008-03-27 00:04, philo wrote:
>>> I have been using both Win2k and XP for years...
>>> and have not once gotten a BSOD
>>>
>>> Vista, even after sp1 ...had given me BSOD four times...
>>> so it's now all gone
>> Strange. I had the most crashes on WinXP before all the patches and SPs -
>> in fact I stuck to Win2K all the way up to Vista and wouldn't install
>> WinXP even if somebody was paying me for doing that.
>
> My experience with XP was that out-of-the-box it was stable, then post-SP1
> and pre-SP2, it kept biting my ass, and finally post-SP2 rock stable.
> Haven't tried SP3 yet, but I doubt that it would make it any less stable.
>
>> I've been using Vista basically since the day it came out and I didn't
>> have a single BSOD (for more than a year now - not a single reinstall).
>> Even better - the system never even crashed or locked up without a BSOD.
>
> Same here - only the game Assassin's Creed has been able to crash my
> computer (twice). Vista was horrible, horrible, horrible to install though
> (took four days of removing hardware, fiddling with BIOS settings, etc.
> etc.), but after it was installed, it's been just like XP RTM - that is,
> stable albeit with a few (interface) bugs. Now, after SP1, I'm experiencing
> the story all over again. It's got more quirks and is less stable than RTM
> (Why is my wireless card constantly crashing? Where did Windows Search go?
> Etc.). Wonder how long it is till SP2 
>
>> I wouldn't switch to any other Windows version no matter what - I'm really
>> happy with Vista and mind you, I've been using the WinNT line since
>> version 3.1.
>>
>> I wonder what people are doing to their systems to make them so unstable.
>> ;-)
>> Vista has had many changes to the kernel after all and isn't a half-step
>> up in the OS department like WinXP compared to Win2K or rather WinNT 5.1
>> to WinNT 5.0 as I like to call them... Also, there's no point in waiting
>> for the new Windows since it'll be to Vista what XP had been to Win2K -
>> virtually no difference at all... WinNT 6.1...
>>
>> If you don't like to have too much crap on a healthy kernel then consider
>> using Windows Server 2008. It's like a better Vista. No, it IS a better
>> Vista (although I'm not using it on my desktop computer).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Lim-Dul
OK - I'd like to amend my previous post. Sorry for my ignorance and
arrogance. Actually I also installed SP1 today - I'm on the Polish
(completely legal, by the way) version of Vista Home Premium 32bit and
wanted to wait for SP1 to appear in Windows Update but since I heared
that even the main versions have been removed because of some critical
bug that didn't concern me I decided to install it "offline" to check
what everybody is whining about.
Well - I still stand by my previous statement that Vista had been very
stable for over a year except some early driver issues (poor
performance) or application (not OS) crashes for which I blame the
respective hardware/software manufacturers and not Microsoft since alpha
versions of Vista and devkits etc. had been around for like a year
prior to Vista's release - they failed to adapt in spite of Microsoft
actually coming forward to them. However, note how I wrote "had been
very stable" in past perfect not "has been" - after I installed SP1
Vista managed to lock-up three times in a 10-hour span with alarming
regularity (like once every three hours). No errors, no BSODs - only an
event log entry that the system was shut down unexpectedly (which is
logical - I had to do it since it locked-up ;-).
So much for "increased stability" - ha, ha. Still, I'm not too angry -
just mildly annoyed. The lock-ups happened usually during video playback
so I assume that it can have something to do with some codecs I will
have to reinstall (but which still shouldn't lock-up the whole system)
or my beta video card drivers (again - they never crashed the system
before). Yet another possibility is that the cause is my overclocked
processor (2.2GHz@3.2GHz) but it would be a strange coincidence if after
over a year of stable performance (my computer ran for like 5 minutes on
the default clockspeed after I had assembled it - just enough to get all
the BIOS settings right ;-) and even whole days of running memory and
processor overheating and stability checks it would suddenly start
failing just after the SP1 installation. =)
Well - whatever. If the problems persist after some maintenance (sfc
doesn't report any errors, neither do various other checks) I'll just
uninstall SP1 or reinstall Vista - it's not as if I am not used to this
after my horrible experiences with WinXP and a year is more than enough
to finish any Windows OS but my beloved WinNT 4.0 Server. ;-)
Best regards,
Lim-Dul