KB867801 causes timeouts in OE and IMAP

Hi
After applying KB867801 I started to have problems trying to keep a
connection to an IMAP server.

The program connects fine and starts to download headers and messages, but
then suddenly it stops. I can download maybe 20 to 25 headers before
Outlook Experss complains about a timeout.

The IMAP server is on a LAN (I am the only user).
I already changed the IMAP program (was Courier,now it is Dovecot).

It does not matter what IMAP client I try to use, the result is the same
Originally I had Outlook 2000 working perfectly before applying KB867801.
I used Thunderbird and Outlook Express with the same result.

What is KB867801 doing that makes the system slow enough to provoke
timeouts?
And how do I rollback the changes? My system is a Windows 2k with all
patches.

Javier

Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to Add/Remove
Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If all is well, go
Windows Updates and download it again with your A/V disabled.
--
Bruce Hagen
~IB-CA~


"pepebuho" <> wrote in message
news...
> Hi
> After applying KB867801 I started to have problems trying to keep a
> connection to an IMAP server.
>
> The program connects fine and starts to download headers and
messages, but
> then suddenly it stops. I can download maybe 20 to 25 headers
before
> Outlook Experss complains about a timeout.
>
> The IMAP server is on a LAN (I am the only user).
> I already changed the IMAP program (was Courier,now it is Dovecot).
>
> It does not matter what IMAP client I try to use, the result is the
same
> Originally I had Outlook 2000 working perfectly before applying
KB867801.
> I used Thunderbird and Outlook Express with the same result.
>
> What is KB867801 doing that makes the system slow enough to provoke
> timeouts?
> And how do I rollback the changes? My system is a Windows 2k with
all
> patches.
>
> Javier

Did you have a question???
--
Bruce Hagen
~IB-CA~


"sgordon" <> wrote in message
news:Q4gRc.6755$ ink.net...
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
> > Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to Add/Remove
> > Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If all is well, go
> > Windows Updates and download it again with your A/V disabled.

I think the blank space was it

"Bruce Hagen" <> wrote in message
news:O5O$...
> Did you have a question???
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> ~IB-CA~
>
>
> "sgordon" <> wrote in message
> news:Q4gRc.6755$ ink.net...
> > Bruce Hagen wrote:
> >
> > > Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to Add/Remove
> > > Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If all is well, go
> > > Windows Updates and download it again with your A/V disabled.
>
>

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 09:54:49 +0100, DL wrote:

> I think the blank space was it
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <> wrote in message
> news:O5O$...
>> Did you have a question???
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> ~IB-CA~
>>
>>
>> "sgordon" <> wrote in message
>> news:Q4gRc.6755$ ink.net...
>> > Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> >
>> > > Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to Add/Remove
>> > > Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If all is well, go
>> > > Windows Updates and download it again with your A/V disabled.
>>
>>

No, I did not. Nevertheless, I removed as you said and downloaded it with
my AV disabled.

I am still having the same problem. I downloads 20 to 30 headers/messages
and then it timeouts. What else can I do?

Thanks

On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 01:06:42 -0500, pepebuho <>
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 09:54:49 +0100, DL wrote:
>
>> I think the blank space was it
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <> wrote in message
>> news:O5O$...
>>> Did you have a question???
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> ~IB-CA~
>>>
>>>
>>> "sgordon" <> wrote in message
>>> news:Q4gRc.6755$ ink.net...
>>> > Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to Add/Remove
>>> > > Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If all is well, go
>>> > > Windows Updates and download it again with your A/V disabled.
>>>
>>>
>
>No, I did not. Nevertheless, I removed as you said and downloaded it with
>my AV disabled.
>
>I am still having the same problem. I downloads 20 to 30 headers/messages
>and then it timeouts. What else can I do?
>
>Thanks
How about installing 871260 ? I'vr heard that in some instances
it helps.
Dave

On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 06:53:07 +0000, davexnet02 wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 01:06:42 -0500, pepebuho <>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 09:54:49 +0100, DL wrote:
>>
>>> I think the blank space was it
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <> wrote in message
>>> news:O5O$...
>>>> Did you have a question???
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> ~IB-CA~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sgordon" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:Q4gRc.6755$ ink.net...
>>>> > Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to Add/Remove
>>>> > > Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If all is well, go
>>>> > > Windows Updates and download it again with your A/V disabled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>No, I did not. Nevertheless, I removed as you said and downloaded it with
>>my AV disabled.
>>
>>I am still having the same problem. I downloads 20 to 30 headers/messages
>>and then it timeouts. What else can I do?
>>
>>Thanks
> How about installing 871260 ? I'vr heard that in some instances
> it helps.
> Dave

Hi
Same
I uninstalled 867801 and installed 871260 (AV off) and I am still getting
the same problem.

pepebuho wrote:
> > > > > > Bruce Hagen wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to
> > > > > > > Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If
> > > > > > > all is well, go Windows Updates and download it again with
> > > > > > > your A/V disabled.
> > > > >
> > > No, I did not. Nevertheless, I removed as you said and downloaded it
> > > with my AV disabled.
> > >
> > > I am still having the same problem. I downloads 20 to 30
> > > headers/messages and then it timeouts. What else can I do?
> > >
> > How about installing 871260 ? I'vr heard that in some instances
> > it helps.\>
> Same
> I uninstalled 867801 and installed 871260 (AV off) and I am still getting
> the same problem.

Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default Main
Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
(File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import messages
from the old Identity before deleting it (File>Identities>Manage
Identities).

Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

Disable Background Compacting and frequently perform a manual compact of all
OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.

Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 16:46:55 -0400, PA Bear wrote:

> pepebuho wrote:
>> > > > > > Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Did you download Q867801 with your A/V running? Go to
>> > > > > > > Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel and remove it. If
>> > > > > > > all is well, go Windows Updates and download it again with
>> > > > > > > your A/V disabled.
>> > > > >
>> > > No, I did not. Nevertheless, I removed as you said and downloaded it
>> > > with my AV disabled.
>> > >
>> > > I am still having the same problem. I downloads 20 to 30
>> > > headers/messages and then it timeouts. What else can I do?
>> > >
>> > How about installing 871260 ? I'vr heard that in some instances
>> > it helps.\>
>> Same
>> I uninstalled 867801 and installed 871260 (AV off) and I am still getting
>> the same problem.
>
> Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default Main
> Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
> (File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import messages
> from the old Identity before deleting it (File>Identities>Manage
> Identities).
>
> Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> folders created for this purpose.
>
> Disable Background Compacting and frequently perform a manual compact of all
> OE folders while "working offline". More at
> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.
>
> Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
> corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.

I did something better. I created a totally brand new User in Win2k.
Then I logged off my usual user and logged in as the new user.
Then I opened OE and set the account details to my IMAP account. Again,
no dice. After a few headlines are downloaded, the connection timeouts.

Regarding using the Inbox and sent, I was trying to keep all my e-mail on
the IMAP server. I am switching between linux and microsoft frequently and
I would rather keep a single mail repository. That is why I am using IMAP.
My server on my LAN fetches my email from my isp account and I can see it
from my PC (sometimes it is in Linux mode, sometimes it is in Windows mode)