KB890830 loop from hell.

Long story short, Win2K SR4, just updated Norton's Internet Security
2005 to 2006 and new feature insists on having Windows Update set to
automatic or it pesters the bejeebers out you until you turn back on,
(I'm a hands-on guy, I do it manually and have keep up to date for years)

So Windows Update fines a couple of new patches and one I declined long
ago KB890830. (I don't use IE except for web development testing, up to
date AV, spyware and such, Norton's firewall plus run through a Linux
firewall) I did not see the need for MSRT. I have followed the
instructions on

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830

had have declined the install all three ways, in WU, from MS's WU page
and checked 'not to be reminded for this update'(or whatever the dialog
box option wording was) and downloaded manually and declined the EULA
and if Windows Update is on automatic the damn thing keeps downloading
over and over at @2MB a pop! I am stuck with a slow dialup connection
and do not need the bandwidth drain! If a turnoff automatic update WU
stops the downloading it but then this newer version NIS pops up
continually telling me to turn it back on! Seem to have no choice the
unlike stated by MS that the tool is *not* optional!

Help any workaround?



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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Jonathan N. Little <> wrote:

> So Windows Update fines a couple of new patches and one I declined
> long ago KB890830. (I don't use IE except for web development
> testing, up to date AV, spyware and such, Norton's firewall plus run
> through a Linux firewall) I did not see the need for MSRT. I have
> followed the instructions on
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830
>
> had have declined the install all three ways, in WU, from MS's WU page
> and checked 'not to be reminded for this update'(or whatever the
> dialog box option wording was) and downloaded manually and declined
> the EULA and if Windows Update is on automatic the damn thing keeps
> downloading over and over at @2MB a pop!

890830 is updated and re-released each month and so will download again even
if you have previously "hidden" an earlier version of MSRT.

> I am stuck with a slow
> dialup connection and do not need the bandwidth drain!

Use control panel "Automatic Updates" to select "Notify me but don't
automatically download or install them". Then when updates are available,
you can choose which ones to download.

> If a turnoff
> automatic update WU stops the downloading it but then this newer
> version NIS pops up continually telling me to turn it back on!

If you are disastisfied with this third-party product, then uninstall it.
If you seek help with Norton products, then try their support channels.

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Robin Walker [MVP Networking]

Robin Walker [MVP] wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little <> wrote:
>
>> So Windows Update fines a couple of new patches and one I declined
>> long ago KB890830. (I don't use IE except for web development
>> testing, up to date AV, spyware and such, Norton's firewall plus run
>> through a Linux firewall) I did not see the need for MSRT. I have
>> followed the instructions on
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830
>>
>> had have declined the install all three ways, in WU, from MS's WU page
>> and checked 'not to be reminded for this update'(or whatever the
>> dialog box option wording was) and downloaded manually and declined
>> the EULA and if Windows Update is on automatic the damn thing keeps
>> downloading over and over at @2MB a pop!
>
> 890830 is updated and re-released each month and so will download again even
> if you have previously "hidden" an earlier version of MSRT.

Ah, but that is just the point, the ever downloading update is this
month's MSRT that I have already declined and supposedly "hidden" per
published instructions. I could live with declining once per month it is
multiple time a day that becomes irritating! Also I have noticed that
the downloading cycle is inconsistent which I find puzzling. One day it
repeated only a few times during the day, but yesterday it kept
repeating about 5-15 minutes after the download for more than a dozen
times. This morning, been 2 hours and no activity...strange. I was just
looking for a definitive way to decline the month's version of the MSRT
and not be pestered to next month since the published instructions did
not seem to work.

>
>> I am stuck with a slow
>> dialup connection and do not need the bandwidth drain!
>
> Use control panel "Automatic Updates" to select "Notify me but don't
> automatically download or install them". Then when updates are available,
> you can choose which ones to download.
>
>> If a turnoff
>> automatic update WU stops the downloading it but then this newer
>> version NIS pops up continually telling me to turn it back on!
>
> If you are disastisfied with this third-party product, then uninstall it.
> If you seek help with Norton products, then try their support channels.
>

I was not asking for support for NIS, just underscoring the conundrum.
Been happily using Norton's products for over 10 years, but this
'feature' of WU having to be set to full automatic is new with this
version I just installed and I will take the issue with their support.
My question was with above, because if the month's MSRT declined would
remain 'hidden' would be a satisfactory solution.


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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
<snip>
> times. This morning, been 2 hours and no activity...strange. I was just
> looking for a definitive way to decline the month's version of the MSRT
> and not be pestered to next month since the published instructions did
> not seem to work.
>

'Spoke' too soon, downloaded 4 times in a row now!

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Jonathan N. Little <> wrote:

> 'Spoke' too soon, downloaded 4 times in a row now!

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910339
How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are
repeatedly offered an update
This article describes how to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft
Update when you are repeatedly offered an update. This article also
describes how to troubleshoot the problem when Automatic Updates repeatedly
downloads and installs the same update.

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Robin Walker [MVP Networking]

Robin Walker [MVP] wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little <> wrote:
>
>> 'Spoke' too soon, downloaded 4 times in a row now!
>
> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910339
> How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are
> repeatedly offered an update
> This article describes how to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft
> Update when you are repeatedly offered an update. This article also
> describes how to troubleshoot the problem when Automatic Updates repeatedly
> downloads and installs the same update.
>

Thank you. I was hopeful the supplied link would have the answer but it
focuses on when one repeatedly gets the update offer where either it
failed to install or did install. I want to stop the offers for the
update that I have elected *not* to install. Therefore I do not have a
log listing for KB890830 in my /WINNT folder.

On the Windows Update page, KB890830 is now shown pending and as hidden
update if I restore hidden update. Both instances are the latest July 06
patch. So unless you have any other suggestions I must infer that the
MSRT is not really optional.


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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com