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Art
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      01-30-2008
I'm running WinXP, SP2, up-to-date (except KB942615);
Security: WinXP firewall, Windows Defender and Windows OneCare Live,
only (ie, no third party firewall, anti-virus, or spyware programs)

Back in December I had to block the KB942615 update, because IE7 would
not connect. I just went to Microsoft Update, unblocked KB942615, and
tried an update. Again, IE7 would not connect, so I have uninstalled
this update and blocked it, again.

I have tried all the recommendations to overcome this issue that I could
find, both at Microsoft and elsewhere, but I cannot overcome the problem
with this update.

I don't understand why Microsoft hasn't fixed this update, if it is
deemed 'critical'. Any advice would be appreciated.

Frustrated Art
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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      01-30-2008
Error message after you install a Windows Internet Explorer 7 update from
Windows Update or from Microsoft Update: "Webpage cannot be displayed":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942818

Assuming KB942615 is not intalled:

1. Disable your anti-virus application, any real-time protection provided by
an anti-spyware application (except for Windows Defender; includes Spybot
Tea Timer, SpySweeper Guards, AVG AS guard.exe, etc.), disable any
third-party firewall AND enable the Windows Firewall.

NB: You're "working without a net" now: Don't to ANYTHING else online (e.g.,
browsing; reading email; chatting) except #4 below until your anti-virus
application has been re-enabled! If you're running ZA Free firewall, you
may need to uninstall it instead of disabling it.

2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM and scan |
Install all Critical Updates offered (e.g., KB942615). If "Root
Certificates" update is listed in the Optional Updates category, you might
install it, too, to take full advantage of IE7's additional security.

3. Reboot > Make sure everything in #1 above is enabled again and, if
applicable, disable the Windows Firewall and enable your third-party
firewall.
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002


Art wrote:
> I'm running WinXP, SP2, up-to-date (except KB942615);
> Security: WinXP firewall, Windows Defender and Windows OneCare Live,
> only (ie, no third party firewall, anti-virus, or spyware programs)
>
> Back in December I had to block the KB942615 update, because IE7 would
> not connect. I just went to Microsoft Update, unblocked KB942615, and
> tried an update. Again, IE7 would not connect, so I have uninstalled
> this update and blocked it, again.
>
> I have tried all the recommendations to overcome this issue that I could
> find, both at Microsoft and elsewhere, but I cannot overcome the problem
> with this update.
>
> I don't understand why Microsoft hasn't fixed this update, if it is
> deemed 'critical'. Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Frustrated Art


 
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      01-30-2008
Hi, Papa Bear,

1. I have no anti-virus apps (except OneCare) or 3rd party firewall.
2. I did go to Update, unhide KB942615, and install it.
3. I did reboot.
4. I have Defender and OneCare fully active.

but...
5. I get the 'cannot display...' error message if I try to run either
IE7 or Firefox.

so..
6. I have uninstalled KB942615, again, rebooted, turned off auto update,
gone to Update, hidden this update, and turned on auto update, again.

I think I'll just leave KB942615 update hidden; I've wasted hours and
hours trying to make it work, including the registry hack.

Art

In article <#>,
says...
> Error message after you install a Windows Internet Explorer 7 update from
> Windows Update or from Microsoft Update: "Webpage cannot be displayed":
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942818
>
> Assuming KB942615 is not intalled:
>
> 1. Disable your anti-virus application, any real-time protection provided by
> an anti-spyware application (except for Windows Defender; includes Spybot
> Tea Timer, SpySweeper Guards, AVG AS guard.exe, etc.), disable any
> third-party firewall AND enable the Windows Firewall.
>
> NB: You're "working without a net" now: Don't to ANYTHING else online (e.g.,
> browsing; reading email; chatting) except #4 below until your anti-virus
> application has been re-enabled! If you're running ZA Free firewall, you
> may need to uninstall it instead of disabling it.
>
> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM and scan |
> Install all Critical Updates offered (e.g., KB942615). If "Root
> Certificates" update is listed in the Optional Updates category, you might
> install it, too, to take full advantage of IE7's additional security.
>
> 3. Reboot > Make sure everything in #1 above is enabled again and, if
> applicable, disable the Windows Firewall and enable your third-party
> firewall.
>

 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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      01-30-2008
It's PA Bear (as in Pennsylvania), not Papa Bear, thankyou.

You're not the first OneCare user to encounter this problem and you probably
won't be the last.

Did you install OneCare before or after you installed IE7?

Prior to installing OneCare, you're supposed to uninstall your current
anti-virus application and third-party firewall (if any) via Add/Remove
Programs. Did you do so? Were any of them Norton or McAfee applications?

Has a Norton and/or McAfee application *ever* been installed on the machine
since you purchased it?

> I think I'll just leave KB942615 update hidden; I've wasted hours and
> hours trying to make it work, including the registry hack.


What Registry hack?

> I get the 'cannot display...' error message if I try to run either
> IE7 or Firefox.


Very odd. If you (1) uninstall IE7 via Add/Remove Programs, (2) reboot
twice, and then (3) install the IE6-version of KB942615, does the behavior
persist?

================

Please note that we expect another Cumulative Security Update for Internet
Explorer to be released very soon. Being a cumulative update, it will
included everything in KB942615, so I recommend getting this resolved ASAP:
You do NOT want to be running IE or WinXP without having addressed all of
these security vulnerabilities!

If you want, you can...

Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527

Support for Windows Update:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport

For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY in
the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with
security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related
to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB942615).

** => If your problem relates to a Cumulative Security Update for IE, call
the above number and ask to be transferred to the Consumer IE7 queue (which
is 47830). <= **

For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
your usual support contacts.
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MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.net

============================

Tip: Temporarily disable real-time protection by your anti-virus and/or
anti-spyware applications (e.g., CounterSpy, Spysweeper, Spybot, AVG
Anti-Spyware) and/or any third-party firewall (e.g., ZA) before attempting
to install the update(s). If you disable a third-party firewall, do NOT
connect to the internet without having the Windows Firewall enabled!

DEAD[[Submit an online request to obtain a Microsoft hotfix:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935195 ]]


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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Art wrote:
> Hi, Papa Bear,
>
> 1. I have no anti-virus apps (except OneCare) or 3rd party firewall.
> 2. I did go to Update, unhide KB942615, and install it.
> 3. I did reboot.
> 4. I have Defender and OneCare fully active.
>
> but...
> 5. I get the 'cannot display...' error message if I try to run either
> IE7 or Firefox.
>
> so..
> 6. I have uninstalled KB942615, again, rebooted, turned off auto update,
> gone to Update, hidden this update, and turned on auto update, again.
>
> I think I'll just leave KB942615 update hidden; I've wasted hours and
> hours trying to make it work, including the registry hack.
>
> Art
>
> In article <#>,
> says...
>> Error message after you install a Windows Internet Explorer 7 update from
>> Windows Update or from Microsoft Update: "Webpage cannot be displayed":
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942818
>>
>> Assuming KB942615 is not intalled:
>>
>> 1. Disable your anti-virus application, any real-time protection provided
>> by an anti-spyware application (except for Windows Defender; includes
>> Spybot Tea Timer, SpySweeper Guards, AVG AS guard.exe, etc.), disable any
>> third-party firewall AND enable the Windows Firewall.
>>
>> NB: You're "working without a net" now: Don't to ANYTHING else online
>> (e.g., browsing; reading email; chatting) except #4 below until your
>> anti-virus application has been re-enabled! If you're running ZA Free
>> firewall, you may need to uninstall it instead of disabling it.
>>
>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM and scan |
>> Install all Critical Updates offered (e.g., KB942615). If "Root
>> Certificates" update is listed in the Optional Updates category, you
>> might
>> install it, too, to take full advantage of IE7's additional security.
>>
>> 3. Reboot > Make sure everything in #1 above is enabled again and, if
>> applicable, disable the Windows Firewall and enable your third-party
>> firewall.

<paste>
>> Art wrote:
>> I'm running WinXP, SP2, up-to-date (except KB942615);
>> Security: WinXP firewall, Windows Defender and Windows OneCare Live,
>> only (ie, no third party firewall, anti-virus, or spyware programs)
>>
>> Back in December I had to block the KB942615 update, because IE7 would
>> not connect. I just went to Microsoft Update, unblocked KB942615, and
>> tried an update. Again, IE7 would not connect, so I have uninstalled
>> this update and blocked it, again.
>>
>> I have tried all the recommendations to overcome this issue that I could
>> find, both at Microsoft and elsewhere, but I cannot overcome the problem
>> with this update.
>>
>> I don't understand why Microsoft hasn't fixed this update, if it is
>> deemed 'critical'. Any advice would be appreciated.


 
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      01-31-2008
Okay, PA... (don't ever get on the wrong side of a bear!)

In article <>,
says...
> It's PA Bear (as in Pennsylvania), not Papa Bear, thankyou.
>
> You're not the first OneCare user to encounter this problem and you probably
> won't be the last.
>
> Did you install OneCare before or after you installed IE7?


After

>
> Prior to installing OneCare, you're supposed to uninstall your current
> anti-virus application and third-party firewall (if any) via Add/Remove
> Programs. Did you do so? Were any of them Norton or McAfee applications?


Yes, AVG and Zone Alarm were uninstalled; before AVG I used Norton, but
it was uninstalled (plus I went into the registry and deleted all Norton
stuff).
>
> Has a Norton and/or McAfee application *ever* been installed on the machine
> since you purchased it?


Yes. See above

>
> > I think I'll just leave KB942615 update hidden; I've wasted hours and
> > hours trying to make it work, including the registry hack.

>
> What Registry hack?


http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...-kb942615.aspx
(I tried this out of desperation.)

>
> > I get the 'cannot display...' error message if I try to run either
> > IE7 or Firefox.

>
> Very odd. If you (1) uninstall IE7 via Add/Remove Programs, (2) reboot
> twice, and then (3) install the IE6-version of KB942615, does the behavior
> persist?
>


Do I re-install IE6 or IE7 before installing the IE6 version of
KB942615, or after? I'm ready to try this.

Art

 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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      01-31-2008
> ...before AVG I used Norton, but
> it was uninstalled (plus I went into the registry and deleted all Norton
> stuff).


Run the Norton Removal Tool:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039

> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...-kb942615.aspx
> (I tried this out of desperation.)


That Reg hack was for IE6, not IE7; and KB946627 eliminated the need for it.

> Do I re-install IE6 or IE7 before installing the IE6 version of
> KB942615, or after? I'm ready to try this.


1. Uninstall IE7 EXACTLY per http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html

2. Before re-enabling Automatic Updates: Go to
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM and scan | Install any
critical updates offered but de-select then "hide" IE7 | Install the
selected updates (follow all prompts).

3. Re-enable Automatic Updates.

NB: After installing KB942615 for IE6, if you find that IE6 "crashes" with
errors in URLMON.DLL, install KB946627 via Windows Update website (option
updates) or Automatic Updates.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Art wrote:
> Okay, PA... (don't ever get on the wrong side of a bear!)
>
> In article <>,
> says...
>> It's PA Bear (as in Pennsylvania), not Papa Bear, thankyou.
>>
>> You're not the first OneCare user to encounter this problem and you
>> probably won't be the last.
>>
>> Did you install OneCare before or after you installed IE7?

>
> After
>
>>
>> Prior to installing OneCare, you're supposed to uninstall your current
>> anti-virus application and third-party firewall (if any) via Add/Remove
>> Programs. Did you do so? Were any of them Norton or McAfee
>> applications?

>
> Yes, AVG and Zone Alarm were uninstalled; before AVG I used Norton, but
> it was uninstalled (plus I went into the registry and deleted all Norton
> stuff).
>>
>> Has a Norton and/or McAfee application *ever* been installed on the
>> machine
>> since you purchased it?

>
> Yes. See above
>
>>
>>> I think I'll just leave KB942615 update hidden; I've wasted hours and
>>> hours trying to make it work, including the registry hack.

>>
>> What Registry hack?

>
> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...-kb942615.aspx
> (I tried this out of desperation.)
>
>>
>>> I get the 'cannot display...' error message if I try to run either
>>> IE7 or Firefox.

>>
>> Very odd. If you (1) uninstall IE7 via Add/Remove Programs, (2) reboot
>> twice, and then (3) install the IE6-version of KB942615, does the
>> behavior
>> persist?
>>

>
> Do I re-install IE6 or IE7 before installing the IE6 version of
> KB942615, or after? I'm ready to try this.
>
> Art


 
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      01-31-2008
PA Bear, I have run the Norton Removal Tool, but the rest of my life has
gotten in the way of this computer problem. In a day or so I'll follow
all you other recommended steps, and let you know how it all worked.
Thanks for the quick, in-depth advice!

I'm still not sure on one point: If I 'hide' IE7, will the update then
re-install IE6? And after I turn on auto update again, do I keep IE7
hidden? (That is, should I not use IE7 with WinXP?)

Again, thanks PA Bear

In article <#>,
says...
> > ...before AVG I used Norton, but
> > it was uninstalled (plus I went into the registry and deleted all Norton
> > stuff).

>
> Run the Norton Removal Tool:
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039
>
> > http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...-kb942615.aspx
> > (I tried this out of desperation.)

>
> That Reg hack was for IE6, not IE7; and KB946627 eliminated the need for it.
>
> > Do I re-install IE6 or IE7 before installing the IE6 version of
> > KB942615, or after? I'm ready to try this.

>
> 1. Uninstall IE7 EXACTLY per http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html
>
> 2. Before re-enabling Automatic Updates: Go to
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM and scan | Install any
> critical updates offered but de-select then "hide" IE7 | Install the
> selected updates (follow all prompts).
>
> 3. Re-enable Automatic Updates.
>
> NB: After installing KB942615 for IE6, if you find that IE6 "crashes" with
> errors in URLMON.DLL, install KB946627 via Windows Update website (option
> updates) or Automatic Updates.
>

 
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      01-31-2008
Uninstalling IE7 EXACTLY per http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html will
automatically return the machine to IE6. IOW you won't have to reinstall
IE6.

If you "hide" IE7, it won't be offered via Automatic Updates.
--
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Art wrote:
> PA Bear, I have run the Norton Removal Tool, but the rest of my life has
> gotten in the way of this computer problem. In a day or so I'll follow
> all you other recommended steps, and let you know how it all worked.
> Thanks for the quick, in-depth advice!
>
> I'm still not sure on one point: If I 'hide' IE7, will the update then
> re-install IE6? And after I turn on auto update again, do I keep IE7
> hidden? (That is, should I not use IE7 with WinXP?)
>
> Again, thanks PA Bear
>
> In article <#>,
> says...
>>> ...before AVG I used Norton, but
>>> it was uninstalled (plus I went into the registry and deleted all Norton
>>> stuff).

>>
>> Run the Norton Removal Tool:
>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039
>>
>>> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...-kb942615.aspx
>>> (I tried this out of desperation.)

>>
>> That Reg hack was for IE6, not IE7; and KB946627 eliminated the need for
>> it.
>>
>>> Do I re-install IE6 or IE7 before installing the IE6 version of
>>> KB942615, or after? I'm ready to try this.

>>
>> 1. Uninstall IE7 EXACTLY per http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html
>>
>> 2. Before re-enabling Automatic Updates: Go to
>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM and scan | Install any
>> critical updates offered but de-select then "hide" IE7 | Install the
>> selected updates (follow all prompts).
>>
>> 3. Re-enable Automatic Updates.
>>
>> NB: After installing KB942615 for IE6, if you find that IE6 "crashes"
>> with
>> errors in URLMON.DLL, install KB946627 via Windows Update website (option
>> updates) or Automatic Updates.


 
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Art
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      02-01-2008
Hi PA Bear,

I followed your instructions to the tee, and everything now works,
inclucing KB942615. Thanks a bunch!

But you didn't answer my question as to whether I can now install the
IE7 update. (I understand it offers additional security.)

Again, thanks for your many responses.

Art

In article <#>,
says...
> Uninstalling IE7 EXACTLY per http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html will
> automatically return the machine to IE6. IOW you won't have to reinstall
> IE6.
>
> If you "hide" IE7, it won't be offered via Automatic Updates.
>

 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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      02-01-2008
Sure give it another shot:

Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:

Sandi's Installation Tips <= FOLLOW THESE TIPS TO THE LETTER!
http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install

[And I strongly recommend using
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow.../getitnow.mspx as the
installation source, not Automatic/Windows Update. Make *certain* that you
check in at Windows Update immediately after installing IE7 and install any
critical updates offered. If Optional Updates category offers Root
Certificates update, I recommend installing it to take full advantage of
IE7's additional security.]

IEBlog : IE7 Installation and Anti-Malware Applications
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...lications.aspx

=> Those with IE7-specific questions or comments are asked to post to and
seek support in IE General newsgroup. Please post any new IE7 questions
there.

On the web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...plorer.general
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Art wrote:
> I followed your instructions to the tee, and everything now works,
> inclucing KB942615. Thanks a bunch!
>
> But you didn't answer my question as to whether I can now install the
> IE7 update. (I understand it offers additional security.)
>
> Again, thanks for your many responses.
>
> Art
>
> In article <#>,
> says...
>> Uninstalling IE7 EXACTLY per http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html will
>> automatically return the machine to IE6. IOW you won't have to reinstall
>> IE6.
>>
>> If you "hide" IE7, it won't be offered via Automatic Updates.


 
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