KB967715 Not installed not offered anymore

Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early posters
about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the registry key
not being set.

Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not attempted
to install the update again since March 1st.

Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up I was
not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows update
site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.

I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in my add
remove programs is not uninstallable.

So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and and are
they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows normal
monthly updates?

If "Security Update for Windows XP (KB967715)" is listed in Add/Remove
Programs *and* it is not being offered by Windows Update now, don't worry
about it.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Ohno wrote:
> Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early posters
> about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the registry
> key
> not being set.
>
> Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not
> attempted
> to install the update again since March 1st.
>
> Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up I
> was
> not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows update
> site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.
>
> I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in my
> add
> remove programs is not uninstallable.
>
> So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and and
> are
> they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows
> normal
> monthly updates?

I do not plan to worry about it since it is not something I need on my
personal machine but I can tell you the registry key it is suppose to create
has not been created and the update has shown as installed every since day
one even though it was offered every day after that.

Just strange that it has quit being offered today. I thought maybe someone
got word that the update had been pulled by Microsoft to be replaced with a
fix tomorrow.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> If "Security Update for Windows XP (KB967715)" is listed in Add/Remove
> Programs *and* it is not being offered by Windows Update now, don't worry
> about it.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> Ohno wrote:
>> Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early posters
>> about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the registry
>> key
>> not being set.
>>
>> Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not
>> attempted
>> to install the update again since March 1st.
>>
>> Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up I
>> was
>> not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows
>> update
>> site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.
>>
>> I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in my
>> add
>> remove programs is not uninstallable.
>>
>> So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and and
>> are
>> they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows
>> normal
>> monthly updates?
>

If KB967715 is being re-released, you'll know about it soon enough, I'm
sure.

PS: You didn't hide KB967715, did you?

Ohno wrote:
> I do not plan to worry about it since it is not something I need on my
> personal machine but I can tell you the registry key it is suppose to
> create
> has not been created and the update has shown as installed every since day
> one even though it was offered every day after that.
>
> Just strange that it has quit being offered today. I thought maybe
> someone
> got word that the update had been pulled by Microsoft to be replaced with
> a
> fix tomorrow.
>
>> If "Security Update for Windows XP (KB967715)" is listed in Add/Remove
>> Programs *and* it is not being offered by Windows Update now, don't worry
>> about it.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> Ohno wrote:
>>> Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early
>>> posters
>>> about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the registry
>>> key
>>> not being set.
>>>
>>> Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not
>>> attempted
>>> to install the update again since March 1st.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up I
>>> was
>>> not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows
>>> update
>>> site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.
>>>
>>> I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in my
>>> add
>>> remove programs is not uninstallable.
>>>
>>> So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and and
>>> are
>>> they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows
>>> normal
>>> monthly updates?

I did not hide it.

I was one of the lucky ones of the problem group that was not forced to
reinstall every time I shut down, I was in the catagory of just being
reoffered to download and install so I just left it showing so each day I
could click on the about link and see if the KB article had gotten revised.

To be 100% sure I did not hide it, I did do a custom scan at Windows update
and looked in the list of hidden items and it was not there. I was 100%
sure I did not hide it but you never know what might happen that is why I
looked.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> If KB967715 is being re-released, you'll know about it soon enough, I'm
> sure.
>
> PS: You didn't hide KB967715, did you?
>
> Ohno wrote:
>> I do not plan to worry about it since it is not something I need on my
>> personal machine but I can tell you the registry key it is suppose to
>> create
>> has not been created and the update has shown as installed every since
>> day
>> one even though it was offered every day after that.
>>
>> Just strange that it has quit being offered today. I thought maybe
>> someone
>> got word that the update had been pulled by Microsoft to be replaced with
>> a
>> fix tomorrow.
>>
>>> If "Security Update for Windows XP (KB967715)" is listed in Add/Remove
>>> Programs *and* it is not being offered by Windows Update now, don't
>>> worry
>>> about it.
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>> Ohno wrote:
>>>> Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early
>>>> posters
>>>> about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the
>>>> registry
>>>> key
>>>> not being set.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not
>>>> attempted
>>>> to install the update again since March 1st.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up
>>>> I
>>>> was
>>>> not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows
>>>> update
>>>> site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.
>>>>
>>>> I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in my
>>>> add
>>>> remove programs is not uninstallable.
>>>>
>>>> So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and and
>>>> are
>>>> they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows
>>>> normal
>>>> monthly updates?
>

If I got it right, the story goes that this update replaced a previous
update. For Vista/Server 2008, it was offered as a security update but for
XP/Server 2003 it was just an update. For XP/Server 2003, since it was just a
plain update, it wasn't offered as a critical update for WU/AU/MU/WSUS. Since
then the Conflickr worm has spread around and MS decided to release it to
WU/AU/MU/WSUS.

So for those who installed the original update (don't remember the KB but
should be in the KB for this one), this is not needed.


"Ohno" wrote:

> Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early posters
> about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the registry key
> not being set.
>
> Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not attempted
> to install the update again since March 1st.
>
> Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up I was
> not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows update
> site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.
>
> I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in my add
> remove programs is not uninstallable.
>
> So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and and are
> they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows normal
> monthly updates?
>
>
>

Close but no cigar.

<QP>
Why are there two places to get this update?
These updates are available in two places due to the way the updates were
originally offered. The updates that were offered in Microsoft Knowledge
Base Article 953252 were not available from automatic updating (including
Automatic Updates, Windows Update, and Windows Server Update Services) and
therefore required users to manually find these updates and install them.
The updates that are offered in Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 967715
contain the same updates that correctly respect the registry keys values to
disable Autorun as in Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 953252, but are being
distributed via automatic updating.
</QP>
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec...ry/967940.mspx (FAQ)

<QP>
Does this update contain any security-related changes to functionality?
Yes. Besides the changes that are listed in the “Vulnerability Details�
section of this bulletin, this security update also resolves a publicly
known issue with Autorun functionality in Windows Vista and Windows Server
2008 systems. The update correctly disables the right-click and double-click
behavior controlled by the NoDriveTypeAutorun registry key. This corrects
the issue identified in CVE-2008-0951 on Windows Vista and Windows Server
2008. For more information on the usage of this registry key, see Microsoft
Knowledge Base Article 953252.
</QP>
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms08-038.mspx
(FAQ)

While MS08-038 (AKA KB950582) was NOT offered to WinXP, Win2003, or Win2000,
KB950585 is and always has been available for these OSS at the Download
Center (e.g.,
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...4-1721D7B8DAA5).

For all intents and purposes, KB953252 and KB967715 are identical except for
the fact that KB967715 offered to WinXP, Win2003, and Win2000 via AU/WU/MU.

Why didn't MS just re-release MS08-038 (KB950585) for WinXP, Win2003 and
Win2000? Who knows?

Yes, it's all /very/ confusing.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Gis Bun wrote:
> If I got it right, the story goes that this update replaced a previous
> update. For Vista/Server 2008, it was offered as a security update but for
> XP/Server 2003 it was just an update. For XP/Server 2003, since it was
> just
> a plain update, it wasn't offered as a critical update for WU/AU/MU/WSUS.
> Since then the Conflickr worm has spread around and MS decided to release
> it to WU/AU/MU/WSUS.
>
> So for those who installed the original update (don't remember the KB but
> should be in the KB for this one), this is not needed.
<snip>

Well with the new updates from today, KB967715 is back. I did look to see if
the release info had changed but it did not. So I will watch a few days and
see if any more conflicts appear, if not I may try the update with a the
other KB number and see how that goes if not good then I will do the manual
reg configuration but that will be over the weekend.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> If KB967715 is being re-released, you'll know about it soon enough, I'm
> sure.
>
> PS: You didn't hide KB967715, did you?
>
> Ohno wrote:
>> I do not plan to worry about it since it is not something I need on my
>> personal machine but I can tell you the registry key it is suppose to
>> create
>> has not been created and the update has shown as installed every since
>> day
>> one even though it was offered every day after that.
>>
>> Just strange that it has quit being offered today. I thought maybe
>> someone
>> got word that the update had been pulled by Microsoft to be replaced with
>> a
>> fix tomorrow.
>>
>>> If "Security Update for Windows XP (KB967715)" is listed in Add/Remove
>>> Programs *and* it is not being offered by Windows Update now, don't
>>> worry
>>> about it.
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>> Ohno wrote:
>>>> Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early
>>>> posters
>>>> about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the
>>>> registry
>>>> key
>>>> not being set.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not
>>>> attempted
>>>> to install the update again since March 1st.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up
>>>> I
>>>> was
>>>> not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows
>>>> update
>>>> site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.
>>>>
>>>> I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in my
>>>> add
>>>> remove programs is not uninstallable.
>>>>
>>>> So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and and
>>>> are
>>>> they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows
>>>> normal
>>>> monthly updates?
>

But i was close. In any case I don't smoke and I don't think the cigar would
of been Cunan anyways. :-)

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Close but no cigar.
>
> <QP>
> Why are there two places to get this update?
> These updates are available in two places due to the way the updates were
> originally offered. The updates that were offered in Microsoft Knowledge
> Base Article 953252 were not available from automatic updating (including
> Automatic Updates, Windows Update, and Windows Server Update Services) and
> therefore required users to manually find these updates and install them.
> The updates that are offered in Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 967715
> contain the same updates that correctly respect the registry keys values to
> disable Autorun as in Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 953252, but are being
> distributed via automatic updating.
> </QP>
> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec...ry/967940.mspx (FAQ)
>
> <QP>
> Does this update contain any security-related changes to functionality?
> Yes. Besides the changes that are listed in the “Vulnerability Details�
> section of this bulletin, this security update also resolves a publicly
> known issue with Autorun functionality in Windows Vista and Windows Server
> 2008 systems. The update correctly disables the right-click and double-click
> behavior controlled by the NoDriveTypeAutorun registry key. This corrects
> the issue identified in CVE-2008-0951 on Windows Vista and Windows Server
> 2008. For more information on the usage of this registry key, see Microsoft
> Knowledge Base Article 953252.
> </QP>
> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms08-038.mspx
> (FAQ)
>
> While MS08-038 (AKA KB950582) was NOT offered to WinXP, Win2003, or Win2000,
> KB950585 is and always has been available for these OSS at the Download
> Center (e.g.,
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...4-1721D7B8DAA5).
>
> For all intents and purposes, KB953252 and KB967715 are identical except for
> the fact that KB967715 offered to WinXP, Win2003, and Win2000 via AU/WU/MU.
>
> Why didn't MS just re-release MS08-038 (KB950585) for WinXP, Win2003 and
> Win2000? Who knows?
>
> Yes, it's all /very/ confusing.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> Gis Bun wrote:
> > If I got it right, the story goes that this update replaced a previous
> > update. For Vista/Server 2008, it was offered as a security update but for
> > XP/Server 2003 it was just an update. For XP/Server 2003, since it was
> > just
> > a plain update, it wasn't offered as a critical update for WU/AU/MU/WSUS.
> > Since then the Conflickr worm has spread around and MS decided to release
> > it to WU/AU/MU/WSUS.
> >
> > So for those who installed the original update (don't remember the KB but
> > should be in the KB for this one), this is not needed.
> <snip>
>
>

It's the same patch but the applicability rules have been revised.

My WSUS 3.1 shows the following:

Revision 101
The applicability rules or prerequisites have changed. This type of change
means that the set of machines on which the new revision is offered may be
different from the set of machines on which the old revision is offered.


"Ohno" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Well with the new updates from today, KB967715 is back. I did look to see
> if the release info had changed but it did not. So I will watch a few days
> and see if any more conflicts appear, if not I may try the update with a
> the other KB number and see how that goes if not good then I will do the
> manual reg configuration but that will be over the weekend.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> If KB967715 is being re-released, you'll know about it soon enough, I'm
>> sure.
>>
>> PS: You didn't hide KB967715, did you?
>>
>> Ohno wrote:
>>> I do not plan to worry about it since it is not something I need on my
>>> personal machine but I can tell you the registry key it is suppose to
>>> create
>>> has not been created and the update has shown as installed every since
>>> day
>>> one even though it was offered every day after that.
>>>
>>> Just strange that it has quit being offered today. I thought maybe
>>> someone
>>> got word that the update had been pulled by Microsoft to be replaced
>>> with a
>>> fix tomorrow.
>>>
>>>> If "Security Update for Windows XP (KB967715)" is listed in Add/Remove
>>>> Programs *and* it is not being offered by Windows Update now, don't
>>>> worry
>>>> about it.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>
>>>> Ohno wrote:
>>>>> Hay all I am not sure what is going on but I was one of the early
>>>>> posters
>>>>> about the issue of KB967715 being offered over and over and the
>>>>> registry
>>>>> key
>>>>> not being set.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway I finally decided to ignore the issue and wait. I have not
>>>>> attempted
>>>>> to install the update again since March 1st.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I did not go on my computer at all. Today when I fired it up
>>>>> I
>>>>> was
>>>>> not offered the update any longer. To be sure I went to the windows
>>>>> update
>>>>> site and ran a custom scan and sure enough the update is not offered.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never did get this thing installed successfully and the listing in
>>>>> my
>>>>> add
>>>>> remove programs is not uninstallable.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I wonder has Microsoft removed this update from availability and
>>>>> and
>>>>> are
>>>>> they going to replace it with a new version? Possibly with tomorrows
>>>>> normal
>>>>> monthly updates?
>>
>
>