How to keep stupid windows mail from spamming emails that I set rules for

I have a message rule that takes messages that contain a certain subject line
and moves them into a special folder. Lately the stupid windows mail program
has started yanking these messages out of the folder I put them in, and
moving them into 'Junk E-Mail' without my permission.

If I applied my own rule to a message, then Windows Mail should be smart
enough not to screw with it, but of course 'Microsoft knows best', and now
several days worth of mail are sitting in the junk folder.

Is there anyway to prevent this? It's not possible for me to add all possible
'from' names to an accept list, because there is a large set of from names
and I do not know them all.

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Why don't you post to MS.Public.windows.vista.mail NG?

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>I have a message rule that takes messages that contain a certain subject
>line
> and moves them into a special folder. Lately the stupid windows mail
> program
> has started yanking these messages out of the folder I put them in, and
> moving them into 'Junk E-Mail' without my permission.
>
> If I applied my own rule to a message, then Windows Mail should be smart
> enough not to screw with it, but of course 'Microsoft knows best', and now
> several days worth of mail are sitting in the junk folder.
>
> Is there anyway to prevent this? It's not possible for me to add all
> possible
> 'from' names to an accept list, because there is a large set of from names
> and I do not know them all.
>
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That's a good idea -- I wasn't aware that group existed. I'll cross the
thread over to there.

So how about it, microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail users, is there anyway
to keep Mail from junking the messages that are moved by the rules that I've
created?

> Why don't you post to MS.Public.windows.vista.mail NG?
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:...
> >I have a message rule that takes messages that contain a certain subject
> >line
> > and moves them into a special folder. Lately the stupid windows mail
> > program
> > has started yanking these messages out of the folder I put them in, and
> > moving them into 'Junk E-Mail' without my permission.
> >
> > If I applied my own rule to a message, then Windows Mail should be smart
> > enough not to screw with it, but of course 'Microsoft knows best', and
now
> > several days worth of mail are sitting in the junk folder.
> >
> > Is there anyway to prevent this? It's not possible for me to add all
> > possible
> > 'from' names to an accept list, because there is a large set of from
names
> > and I do not know them all.
> >
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I don't think this is a situation where WM is "yanking these messages
out of the folder I put them in, and moving them into 'Junk E-Mail'
without my permission."
Chances are, those messages never reached your special folder.
Junk E-Mail filters work only on messages right after they are downloaded
to the Inbox, and just before Message Rules are applied.
One way to escape being classified as Junk, the sender would have to be
on the Safe Senders list. Other than that, try setting the Junk E-Mail level
on Low, or else turn it off altogether.

Gary VanderMolen

<> wrote in message news:...
> That's a good idea -- I wasn't aware that group existed. I'll cross the
> thread over to there.
>
> So how about it, microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail users, is there anyway
> to keep Mail from junking the messages that are moved by the rules that I've
> created?
>
>> Why don't you post to MS.Public.windows.vista.mail NG?
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> >I have a message rule that takes messages that contain a certain subject
>> >line
>> > and moves them into a special folder. Lately the stupid windows mail
>> > program
>> > has started yanking these messages out of the folder I put them in, and
>> > moving them into 'Junk E-Mail' without my permission.
>> >
>> > If I applied my own rule to a message, then Windows Mail should be smart
>> > enough not to screw with it, but of course 'Microsoft knows best', and
> now
>> > several days worth of mail are sitting in the junk folder.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway to prevent this? It's not possible for me to add all
>> > possible
>> > 'from' names to an accept list, because there is a large set of from
> names
>> > and I do not know them all.
>> >
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Very importent! However spam is getting harder and harder to track! We
really need to do something about it!

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<> wrote in message
news:...
> That's a good idea -- I wasn't aware that group existed. I'll cross the
> thread over to there.
>
> So how about it, microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail users, is there
> anyway
> to keep Mail from junking the messages that are moved by the rules that
> I've
> created?
>
>> Why don't you post to MS.Public.windows.vista.mail NG?
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> >I have a message rule that takes messages that contain a certain subject
>> >line
>> > and moves them into a special folder. Lately the stupid windows mail
>> > program
>> > has started yanking these messages out of the folder I put them in, and
>> > moving them into 'Junk E-Mail' without my permission.
>> >
>> > If I applied my own rule to a message, then Windows Mail should be
>> > smart
>> > enough not to screw with it, but of course 'Microsoft knows best', and
> now
>> > several days worth of mail are sitting in the junk folder.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway to prevent this? It's not possible for me to add all
>> > possible
>> > 'from' names to an accept list, because there is a large set of from
> names
>> > and I do not know them all.
>> >
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Are these messages tagged with [SPAM] in the Subject?

If so it isn't Windows Mail doing it. McAfee does not play well with Vista.

KB

<> wrote in message
news:...
> That's a good idea -- I wasn't aware that group existed. I'll cross the
> thread over to there.
>
> So how about it, microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail users, is there
> anyway
> to keep Mail from junking the messages that are moved by the rules that
> I've
> created?
>
>> Why don't you post to MS.Public.windows.vista.mail NG?
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> >I have a message rule that takes messages that contain a certain subject
>> >line
>> > and moves them into a special folder. Lately the stupid windows mail
>> > program
>> > has started yanking these messages out of the folder I put them in, and
>> > moving them into 'Junk E-Mail' without my permission.
>> >
>> > If I applied my own rule to a message, then Windows Mail should be
>> > smart
>> > enough not to screw with it, but of course 'Microsoft knows best', and
> now
>> > several days worth of mail are sitting in the junk folder.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway to prevent this? It's not possible for me to add all
>> > possible
>> > 'from' names to an accept list, because there is a large set of from
> names
>> > and I do not know them all.

> I don't think this is a situation where WM is "yanking these messages
> out of the folder I put them in, and moving them into 'Junk E-Mail'
> without my permission."

I can open up my special folder while WM is downloading the messages. I see
the message appear in the special folder for a second or two, and then the
message disappears and I can find it sitting in 'Junk E-Mail'.

So the messages are definitely spending a second or two in the special folder
before the junkmail filter is grabbing them.




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> Very importent! However spam is getting harder and harder to track! We
> really need to do something about it!

IMO, hashcash or actual money is the only thing that can stop spam.

Think of how much more crap would show up in your postal mailbox if it was
'free' to send postal mail.

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> Are these messages tagged with [SPAM] in the Subject?
>
> If so it isn't Windows Mail doing it. McAfee does not play well with Vista.

Nope. There's nothing special in the subject line. It appears to be
unaltered.

I ditched McAfee some weeks ago. How they've let the quality on that product
drop to the level it has is now beyond me. Absolute rubbish. I'm now running
NOD32, which as far as I know does not have a anti-spam filter.

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Did you also go to the McAfee website and download their uninstaller? There
is a chance there are still bits of McAfee floating around in your registry.

As far as the legit mail going to the spam folder, just go there, and click
"this is not spam" in the overhead buttons, or go to message>junk email> add
sender to safe senders list or one of the other options.

Pamela
<> wrote in message
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>> Are these messages tagged with [SPAM] in the Subject?
>>
>> If so it isn't Windows Mail doing it. McAfee does not play well with
>> Vista.
>
> Nope. There's nothing special in the subject line. It appears to be
> unaltered.
>
> I ditched McAfee some weeks ago. How they've let the quality on that
> product
> drop to the level it has is now beyond me. Absolute rubbish. I'm now
> running
> NOD32, which as far as I know does not have a anti-spam filter.
>
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