On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:53:46 -0600, Scott Roberts wrote:
>>> 8. Automatic codecs install? This is new?
>>
>> Well it is definitely something windows CANNOT do. I've yet to see
>> media player actually find codecs for a video file even once in my
>> life.
>
> It seems to work for me.
Then you're lucky I guess. I've never, not once in my life, seen Windows
Media player find a codec or hear from anyone that it did. And I'm not
talking exotic stuff here either. I'm talking stuff like DivX, MP3, etc.
Come to think of it, XP actually won't even play any of my DVDs out of
the box.
>
>>> 9. When has this ever been hard? On "Windoze", I mean.
>>
>> Let's see, windows you have to dig around on websites to find the
>> drivers you want and it's your responsibility to download the right one
>> and you gotta hope the manufacturer's installer isn't crap.
>>
>> Ubuntu you just click the mouse button 5 times. System->Administration-
>>>Restricted Drivers Manager, Enable, Restart. Driver install is done
>>>from
>> one centralized location and the hardware is already automatically
>> detected and only the appropriate drivers shown.
>
> Sorry, how is this different from Windows Update? Windows Update has
> been around for decades.
Very rarely have I seen Windows Update actually have driver updates. I've
seen it, but it's rare. I suppose Vista might do a bit better on that,
can't say for sure. I know Vista does a little better with hardware
detection on my system than XP does. XP has about 15 unknown devices,
including the ethernet port when first installed. Vista does come in
looking a bit better at about only 8 or so unknown devices.
Ubuntu is about the only OS though that recognizes everything out of the
box. Just the way it is, I've done fresh installs of all 3 operating
systems on this PC this year. Currently though just running XP and Ubuntu
as dual boot.
Note that I'm just referring to initial-out of the box detection. Of
course for all OS' drivers can be found and everything ultimately works.
They just differ in the amount of work I have to put in to make it so.
>
>>> 10. Plug & play printers? Seriously?
>>
>> Seriously. He did though neglect to mention that this Plug & play works
>> without a driver install. It is literally plug and play. Windows does
>> require driver installs first.
>
> If Ubuntu can operate all of the advanced features of my printer
> *without* a driver then I'm super impressed. Somehow, I doubt it though.
If it's a HP then it's very likely it can. HP support is extremely good.
Cannon on the other hand...thanks to cannon support is extremely poor as
they choose to not provide any support or documentation in any way shape
or form.
Epson supposedly is also very good though I have no personal experience
there.
Brother I have some limited personal experience. We have a brother
scanner/printer/copy thing in our office that primarily just serves as a
copier though. We usually use our HP printers for all our printing.
But I hooked my Ubuntu laptop up to it once and it worked
instantaneously.
>
>>> 13. You're right, Vista can't read/write NTFS for sure.
>>
>> Huh? Of course Vista can read / write NTFS. This isn't so easy though
>> for any other OS as Microsoft does not release the specs for NTFS to
>> the public. Meaning that any and all NTFS support had to be reverse
>> engineered without even the slightest bit of documentation or help from
>> Microsoft. Now that *is* an accomplishment, even if you don't
>> understand why.
>
> It's a fine accomplishment, but it's something Windows has done since
> Win95. And that was my original comment, that all of these *features*
> have been around for decades in that sucky Windoze OS.
Well NTFS is Microsoft's own proprietary file system. It obviously is
absolutely no surprise that Windows has supported it from day one. It'd
be rather sad if it was otherwise I would say! =)
>
>> it's really only a small subset of all the changes. It hardly is
>> everything.
>
> Unfortunately, it's the list that some ubuntu zealot decided to share in
> a Vista newsgroup to show us how great ubuntu is. Forgive me if I'm not
> impressed with the list.
That's all good. That's roughly how I felt when Microsoft released Vista.
I looked at Vista, then I looked at XP. Then I looked at my stack of 10
XP Professional Full Retail licenses. Then I tried to find a reason to go
spend $4,000 on the only viable upgrade path for me which would be Vista
Ultimate (business lacks the multi media support I'd want and the home
licenses aren't an upgrade to XP Professional).
And ya know what? I found nothing in Vista that justified the expense for
me. Compared to XP, I see little reason to spend the money on Vista.
Eyecandy I don't care about, feature-wise it doesn't really offer me
anything XP doesn't already do. But unlike XP, it definitely has things I
would not want. UAC, anti-piracy hassles, DRM, unjustifiable higher
system requirements, etc.
So for me, that's the primary reason why I, as a software developer that
spent years writing software for windows, chose to limit my Vista
licenses to a single license and use Ubuntu for everything else. =)
--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6
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