What languages are already installed?

I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly difficult to
use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even basic things like
create a folder or rename a file. When I am organising the Start Menu folders
in Explorer, I get 6 security popups in all just to create a new folder and
rename it, and additional ones for every file I try to move! The default
button has a little sheild on it and says "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means
"continue".

Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?

Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages I
already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it lists a
hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says English,
everything is still in German. I've set everything to English wherever I find
it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply* a Display
Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what languages are
available?

Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an OEM
copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in English,
somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable price?

I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install language
packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to change at any time?

It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive on a
network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't work is
impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus is in German and
my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with Vista, so configuring
firewall to let the network work is very time consuming. I'm still doing
basic config, and I've had it a week!

VC wrote:
> I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly difficult to
> use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even basic things like
> create a folder or rename a file. When I am organising the Start Menu folders
> in Explorer, I get 6 security popups in all just to create a new folder and
> rename it, and additional ones for every file I try to move! The default
> button has a little sheild on it and says "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means
> "continue".
>
> Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?
>
> Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages I
> already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it lists a
> hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says English,
> everything is still in German. I've set everything to English wherever I find
> it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply* a Display
> Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what languages are
> available?
>
> Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
> 32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an OEM
> copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in English,
> somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable price?
>
> I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install language
> packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to change at any time?
>
> It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive on a
> network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't work is
> impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus is in German and
> my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with Vista, so configuring
> firewall to let the network work is very time consuming. I'm still doing
> basic config, and I've had it a week!

No, your German key won't work with English media. If you want an
English OS, you'll have to buy it. That said, why don't you consider
Ubuntu. You'll have none of the crap you're experiencing with Vista and
you can install it in any language you want. No activation. No Windows
Genuine Advantage. Ubuntu is FAR less prone to viruses and malware. It's
free and comes with access to over 25,000 free programs. Check it out at
www.ubuntu.com.

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes

"VC" <> wrote ...
>I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly difficult
>to
> use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even basic things
> like
> it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply* a
> Display
> Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what languages are
> available?

Hi,

Unfortunately, in Vista Home (Basic or Premium) and Business editions, you
cannot change the Display Language. If you have a German copy of Vista Home,
it will *always* display the Windows menus and dialogues in German, and
there's nothing you can do to stop it. You can change the input and keyboard
languages, and run applications which use other langauges, that's no
problem - but Windows itself, will always communicate with you in German.

In Vista Ultimate Edition, you can download and install Multilinguale User
Interface ("MUI") packs, which let you change the Display language to about
15 different languages, including US English (no UK English). Once you
change the display language, all of Windows' own menus and dialogues will be
in the language you specify.

Your main options are to upgrade your existing Vista Home Premium to Vista
Ultimate, via Microsoft's Anytime Upgrade, and then download and install an
English MUI pack via Windows Update.

Windows Anytime Upgrade: Overview
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../overview.mspx

Note that you may need to do the Anytime Upgrade *in German*, via
www.microsoft.de ... I don't think there's any option to select a German
Upgrade if you run through the US or International microsoft sites. Not sure
about that ... maybe someone else knows?

The other alternative is to go out and buy an English language copy of
Vista. You would need to install it from scratch, replacing your existing
installation - so, back up your data first, and be ready to re-install your
applications afterwards. You can't "upgrade" over your existing installation
and change language, in the same operation.

As to why Microsoft chose this astonishingly parochial and narrow-minded
approach to languages, I have no idea. It seems amazingly bone-headed,
without any technical motivation, and a denial of today's global reality for
most users ... especially users living anywhere outside the US. I regret, I
can only imagine it really was a cynical ploy to drive a few more Ultimate
sales. I guess Windows product managers can't imagine a world where people
drive from Strasbourg to Frankfurt for the afternoon; and do a bit of crazy
shopping at der techno-mall while they're there.

Sorry for the bad news, but I hope it helps.
--
Andrew McLaren
amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

this is not totally correct since there are kinds 2 language packs

one is totaly UI language change called MUI
and the other is partial language change of the most important UI elements
and
that is called LIP
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...b5ecc1033.mspx

LIPs are free for everyone... and apply to all versions of vista




"Andrew McLaren" <> wrote in message
news:A9A09FEF-A2F6-4726-B588-...
> "VC" <> wrote ...
>>I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly difficult
>>to
>> use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even basic things
>> like
>> it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply* a
>> Display
>> Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what languages
>> are
>> available?
>
> Hi,
>
> Unfortunately, in Vista Home (Basic or Premium) and Business editions, you
> cannot change the Display Language. If you have a German copy of Vista
> Home, it will *always* display the Windows menus and dialogues in German,
> and there's nothing you can do to stop it. You can change the input and
> keyboard languages, and run applications which use other langauges, that's
> no problem - but Windows itself, will always communicate with you in
> German.
>
> In Vista Ultimate Edition, you can download and install Multilinguale User
> Interface ("MUI") packs, which let you change the Display language to
> about 15 different languages, including US English (no UK English). Once
> you change the display language, all of Windows' own menus and dialogues
> will be in the language you specify.
>
> Your main options are to upgrade your existing Vista Home Premium to Vista
> Ultimate, via Microsoft's Anytime Upgrade, and then download and install
> an English MUI pack via Windows Update.
>
> Windows Anytime Upgrade: Overview
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../overview.mspx
>
> Note that you may need to do the Anytime Upgrade *in German*, via
> www.microsoft.de ... I don't think there's any option to select a German
> Upgrade if you run through the US or International microsoft sites. Not
> sure about that ... maybe someone else knows?
>
> The other alternative is to go out and buy an English language copy of
> Vista. You would need to install it from scratch, replacing your existing
> installation - so, back up your data first, and be ready to re-install
> your applications afterwards. You can't "upgrade" over your existing
> installation and change language, in the same operation.
>
> As to why Microsoft chose this astonishingly parochial and narrow-minded
> approach to languages, I have no idea. It seems amazingly bone-headed,
> without any technical motivation, and a denial of today's global reality
> for most users ... especially users living anywhere outside the US. I
> regret, I can only imagine it really was a cynical ploy to drive a few
> more Ultimate sales. I guess Windows product managers can't imagine a
> world where people drive from Strasbourg to Frankfurt for the afternoon;
> and do a bit of crazy shopping at der techno-mall while they're there.
>
> Sorry for the bad news, but I hope it helps.
> --
> Andrew McLaren
> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au
>

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...b5ecc1033.mspx

Windows Vista Language Interface Pack (LIP).? Windows Vista LIPs provide a
translated version of the most widely used areas of the user interface. LIPs
are freely available to download, and most LIPs can be installed and used on
any edition of Windows Vista. Because not all of the user interface is
translated, LIPs require at least one parent language. The parts of the user
interface that are not translated into the LIP language are displayed in the
parent language. When you download a LIP, you get the parent language
requirements for that language. The parent language pack needs to be
installed before the LIP can be installed. For more information, including a
list of languages available for downloading, go to the Microsoft Local
Language website.







"Alias" <> wrote in message
news:fd03cn$5r1$...
> VC wrote:
>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly
>> difficult to use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even
>> basic things like create a folder or rename a file. When I am organising
>> the Start Menu folders in Explorer, I get 6 security popups in all just
>> to create a new folder and rename it, and additional ones for every file
>> I try to move! The default button has a little sheild on it and says
>> "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means "continue".
>>
>> Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?
>>
>> Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages I
>> already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it lists
>> a hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says English,
>> everything is still in German. I've set everything to English wherever I
>> find it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply*
>> a Display Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what
>> languages are available?
>>
>> Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
>> 32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an OEM
>> copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in English,
>> somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable price?
>>
>> I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install
>> language packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to change
>> at any time?
>>
>> It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive on
>> a network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't work
>> is impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus is in
>> German and my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with Vista, so
>> configuring firewall to let the network work is very time consuming. I'm
>> still doing basic config, and I've had it a week!
>
> No, your German key won't work with English media. If you want an English
> OS, you'll have to buy it. That said, why don't you consider Ubuntu.
> You'll have none of the crap you're experiencing with Vista and you can
> install it in any language you want. No activation. No Windows Genuine
> Advantage. Ubuntu is FAR less prone to viruses and malware. It's free and
> comes with access to over 25,000 free programs. Check it out at
> www.ubuntu.com.
>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes

Alias wrote:
> VC wrote:
>
>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly
>> difficult to use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do
>> even basic things like create a folder or rename a file. When I am
>> organising the Start Menu folders in Explorer, I get 6 security popups
>> in all just to create a new folder and rename it, and additional ones
>> for every file I try to move! The default button has a little sheild
>> on it and says "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means "continue".
>>
>> Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?
>>
>> Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages I
>> already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it
>> lists a hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says
>> English, everything is still in German. I've set everything to English
>> wherever I find it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know
>> how to *apply* a Display Language (if that's what I'm setting), or,
>> how to check what languages are available?
>>
>> Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
>> 32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an
>> OEM copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in
>> English, somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable price?
>>
>> I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install
>> language packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to
>> change at any time?
>>
>> It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive
>> on a network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't
>> work is impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus is
>> in German and my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with Vista,
>> so configuring firewall to let the network work is very time
>> consuming. I'm still doing basic config, and I've had it a week!
>
>
> No, your German key won't work with English media. If you want an
> English OS, you'll have to buy it. That said, why don't you consider
> Ubuntu. You'll have none of the crap you're experiencing with Vista and
> you can install it in any language you want. No activation. No Windows
> Genuine Advantage. Ubuntu is FAR less prone to viruses and malware. It's
> free and comes with access to over 25,000 free programs. Check it out at
> www.ubuntu.com.
>

The op doesn't sound like he's looking for a toy os so that rules our
anything linux, especially ubuntu.
Frank

D. Solomon wrote:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...b5ecc1033.mspx
>
> Windows Vista Language Interface Pack (LIP).? Windows Vista LIPs provide a
> translated version of the most widely used areas of the user interface. LIPs
> are freely available to download, and most LIPs can be installed and used on
> any edition of Windows Vista. Because not all of the user interface is
> translated, LIPs require at least one parent language. The parts of the user
> interface that are not translated into the LIP language are displayed in the
> parent language. When you download a LIP, you get the parent language
> requirements for that language. The parent language pack needs to be
> installed before the LIP can be installed. For more information, including a
> list of languages available for downloading, go to the Microsoft Local
> Language website.
>

Mr Solomon,

That LIPs offered by Microsoft range from Afrikaans to Zulu, but NO english.
Look at the site:
http://www.microsoft.com/industry/pu...px?regid=_all_

See any english?

Bottomline: Forget it.
I am screwed too with a Dutch version. Sucks.

I can't believe M$ isn't offering an english-language switch.
Everybody knows they have it, but for some reason they do not offer it
in a LIP.
'some reason' of course being: M$ want to make $$ by making you buy
another version of Vista that actually does what you paid for.


Regards,
Erwin Moller


>
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>
>
>
>
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:fd03cn$5r1$...
>> VC wrote:
>>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly
>>> difficult to use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even
>>> basic things like create a folder or rename a file. When I am organising
>>> the Start Menu folders in Explorer, I get 6 security popups in all just
>>> to create a new folder and rename it, and additional ones for every file
>>> I try to move! The default button has a little sheild on it and says
>>> "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means "continue".
>>>
>>> Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?
>>>
>>> Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages I
>>> already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it lists
>>> a hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says English,
>>> everything is still in German. I've set everything to English wherever I
>>> find it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply*
>>> a Display Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what
>>> languages are available?
>>>
>>> Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
>>> 32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an OEM
>>> copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in English,
>>> somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable price?
>>>
>>> I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install
>>> language packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to change
>>> at any time?
>>>
>>> It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive on
>>> a network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't work
>>> is impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus is in
>>> German and my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with Vista, so
>>> configuring firewall to let the network work is very time consuming. I'm
>>> still doing basic config, and I've had it a week!
>> No, your German key won't work with English media. If you want an English
>> OS, you'll have to buy it. That said, why don't you consider Ubuntu.
>> You'll have none of the crap you're experiencing with Vista and you can
>> install it in any language you want. No activation. No Windows Genuine
>> Advantage. Ubuntu is FAR less prone to viruses and malware. It's free and
>> comes with access to over 25,000 free programs. Check it out at
>> www.ubuntu.com.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>> To email me, remove shoes
>
>

D. Solomon wrote:
> this is not totally correct since there are kinds 2 language packs
>
> one is totaly UI language change called MUI
> and the other is partial language change of the most important UI elements
> and
> that is called LIP
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...b5ecc1033.mspx
>
> LIPs are free for everyone... and apply to all versions of vista

Shame though they don't have an english LIP....
VC, you are stuck with German Vista unless you pay more $$ to get ultimate.

Erwin

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:24:52 -0700, Frank <> wrote:

>The op doesn't sound like he's looking for a toy os so that rules our
>anything linux, especially ubuntu.
>Frank

The "toy" Linux is run on super computers Frankie Numbnuts, once again
proving what a total idiot you are with your off the wall comments you
spit out without thinking.

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> VC wrote:
>>
>>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly
>>> difficult to use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do
>>> even basic things like create a folder or rename a file. When I am
>>> organising the Start Menu folders in Explorer, I get 6 security
>>> popups in all just to create a new folder and rename it, and
>>> additional ones for every file I try to move! The default button has
>>> a little sheild on it and says "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means
>>> "continue".
>>>
>>> Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?
>>>
>>> Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages
>>> I already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it
>>> lists a hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says
>>> English, everything is still in German. I've set everything to
>>> English wherever I find it, but it doesn't change anything. Does
>>> anyone know how to *apply* a Display Language (if that's what I'm
>>> setting), or, how to check what languages are available?
>>>
>>> Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
>>> 32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an
>>> OEM copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in
>>> English, somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable
>>> price?
>>>
>>> I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install
>>> language packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to
>>> change at any time?
>>>
>>> It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive
>>> on a network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't
>>> work is impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus
>>> is in German and my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with
>>> Vista, so configuring firewall to let the network work is very time
>>> consuming. I'm still doing basic config, and I've had it a week!
>>
>>
>> No, your German key won't work with English media. If you want an
>> English OS, you'll have to buy it. That said, why don't you consider
>> Ubuntu. You'll have none of the crap you're experiencing with Vista
>> and you can install it in any language you want. No activation. No
>> Windows Genuine Advantage. Ubuntu is FAR less prone to viruses and
>> malware. It's free and comes with access to over 25,000 free programs.
>> Check it out at www.ubuntu.com.
>>
>
> The op doesn't sound like he's looking for a toy os so that rules our
> anything linux, especially ubuntu.
> Frank

Speak for yourself. You have a hard enough time doing that. You don't
speak for *anyone* else.

Oh, Vista is a POS toy that doesn't work properly and Ubuntu is a real
OS. Live with it.

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes