Latest Vista Updates Prevent Network Recognition With Me

Simply wondering why this is and whether one ought to scrap Vista in favour
of XP.
Mr. David Oltmann

Hi David

I guess you mean that you cannot connect from Windows Me to Windows Vista
(and/or, vice versa) over the network?

This is a well-known problem, and is actually "by design". Whether it was a
good design, I will leave you to judge. Windows 95, 98 and Me used a older,
less secure form of authentication called LanMan. Windows XP and Vista use
more secure authentication, called NTLMv2. On XP, it NTLMv2 is optional.
Vista is designed to be a secure operating system, so NTLMv2 is turned ON by
default, and other less secure forms are all turned OFF. This is to protect
the Vista machine from being compromised from the relatively insecure
Windows 98/Me machines.

In order to connect to Windows Me from Vista, you will need to install the
NTLMv2 client onto the Windows Me machine. The NTLMv2 client is variously
known as the "Directory Services Client" or "Active Directory Client". You
can download the client from here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...dsclient9x.msi

More information about installing the DS Client is here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869

More background about the problem is in this article:
File and Printer Sharing in Windows Vista
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
.... especially the section entitled "Cannot Authenticate to a Shared Folder
from a Windows Vista-based Computer".

If NTLM authentication does NOT seem to match the specific networking
problem you're seeing, I'd suggest you reply back to this newsgroup with a
more detailed description of exactly what the problem is.

Hope it helps,
Andrew

Thanks Andrew. That does the trick nicely.
Mr. David Oltmann


"Andrew McLaren" <> wrote in message
news:%23V$...
> Hi David
>
> I guess you mean that you cannot connect from Windows Me to Windows Vista
> (and/or, vice versa) over the network?
>
> This is a well-known problem, and is actually "by design". Whether it was
> a good design, I will leave you to judge. Windows 95, 98 and Me used a
> older, less secure form of authentication called LanMan. Windows XP and
> Vista use more secure authentication, called NTLMv2. On XP, it NTLMv2 is
> optional. Vista is designed to be a secure operating system, so NTLMv2 is
> turned ON by default, and other less secure forms are all turned OFF. This
> is to protect the Vista machine from being compromised from the relatively
> insecure Windows 98/Me machines.
>
> In order to connect to Windows Me from Vista, you will need to install the
> NTLMv2 client onto the Windows Me machine. The NTLMv2 client is variously
> known as the "Directory Services Client" or "Active Directory Client". You
> can download the client from here:
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...dsclient9x.msi
>
> More information about installing the DS Client is here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869
>
> More background about the problem is in this article:
> File and Printer Sharing in Windows Vista
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> ... especially the section entitled "Cannot Authenticate to a Shared
> Folder from a Windows Vista-based Computer".
>
> If NTLM authentication does NOT seem to match the specific networking
> problem you're seeing, I'd suggest you reply back to this newsgroup with a
> more detailed description of exactly what the problem is.
>
> Hope it helps,
> Andrew
>