Learn From Mac

Tomorrow Mac OSX Leopard will be released and when i see the videos, i think
how microsoft, the biggest software company can release this slow, ugly,
unfinished operating system, Mac OSX look like a mature product, with a lot
of featured than should be in windows vista, Mac OSX is very more friendly
than vista and more closer to Longhorn concept than vista.... if Mac OSX
could be run in a PC i don't think twice...

I feel dissapointed again... Learn from Mac and give us a good product

I'm a .NET Programmer, Windows User about ten years...


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Well, everyone is free to think what they want about Windows, but bashing
without thorough research and analysis is not the right approach. I think
Leopard is a solid upgrade that offers some nifty features, I personally
like Quick Preview, Time Machine and improvements to the Finder. Time
Machine is really cool because of inviting user interface and the visual
cues it gives users and the 123 approach to getting persons to backup.

Reading about it now"
http://www.macworld.com/2007/10/feat...hine/index.php
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"Mario" <> wrote in message
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> Tomorrow Mac OSX Leopard will be released and when i see the videos, i
> think
> how microsoft, the biggest software company can release this slow, ugly,
> unfinished operating system, Mac OSX look like a mature product, with a
> lot
> of featured than should be in windows vista, Mac OSX is very more friendly
> than vista and more closer to Longhorn concept than vista.... if Mac OSX
> could be run in a PC i don't think twice...
>
> I feel dissapointed again... Learn from Mac and give us a good product
>
> I'm a .NET Programmer, Windows User about ten years...
>
>
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> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

I can't give any comment on the Mac/Windows debate. Macs are a niche
market here in South Africa, and are notoriusly expensive (Assuming
we're lucky enough to even find a retailer that stocks Mac hardware). So
I've never used a Mac.

As I'm always looking for something new to learn, I'd like to see a
version of Mac OSX that will run on my current hardware, even if only to
be able to gauge which is more suitable to a particular task.


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From what I heard from someone running the BETA, Leopard is not finished!
Lots of unfixed bugs. No, I hope MS learns anything from Apple. Leopard is
still OSX. They're releasing an upgrade and charge people for it. What a
scam!

"Mario" <> wrote in message
news:8EBB120A-CD3E-45D7-927A-...
> Tomorrow Mac OSX Leopard will be released and when i see the videos, i
> think
> how microsoft, the biggest software company can release this slow, ugly,
> unfinished operating system, Mac OSX look like a mature product, with a
> lot
> of featured than should be in windows vista, Mac OSX is very more friendly
> than vista and more closer to Longhorn concept than vista.... if Mac OSX
> could be run in a PC i don't think twice...
>
> I feel dissapointed again... Learn from Mac and give us a good product
>
> I'm a .NET Programmer, Windows User about ten years...
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:39:42 -0500, "John" <> wrote:

>From what I heard from someone running the BETA, Leopard is not finished!
>Lots of unfixed bugs. No, I hope MS learns anything from Apple. Leopard is
>still OSX. They're releasing an upgrade and charge people for it. What a
>scam!

The software biz is based on the Gillette razor business model.

What's that?

Sell the Rube a razor, but also sell him the blades. While you make
some money on the initial sale of the razor, the real profit is made
selling new blades for the razor over and over. Other technology
companies have employed the same trick the decades. For example Kodak,
years back it had a profitable business selling both cameras and film.
Take Xerox and other photocopy machines. The real money in laser
printers is supplying the toner. Ditto for ink jet printers. They now
almost give away the printer knowing they will reap absurd profits
selling replacement ink at grossly inflated prices.

While software companies can make a bundle with some new application
much of the profit generated from sales is offset by development
costs. Making upgrades on a regular basis is far more profitable since
the lion's share of development costs is already paid off.

While I can't prove it I've suspected for a long time many
applications are deliberately crippled where some features are held
back and slowly added over the course of several upgrade cycles.
Either that or software engineers are an awfully dumb bunch since
often it appears what gets added in upgrades should have been thought
of for the initial version. Just call me a cynic. ;-)

"I'd like to see a
> version of Mac OSX that will run on my current hardware, even if only to
> be able to gauge which is more suitable to a particular task."

You just need to look in the right places.
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"dzomlija" <> wrote in message
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>
> I can't give any comment on the Mac/Windows debate. Macs are a niche
> market here in South Africa, and are notoriusly expensive (Assuming
> we're lucky enough to even find a retailer that stocks Mac hardware). So
> I've never used a Mac.
>
> As I'm always looking for something new to learn, I'd like to see a
> version of Mac OSX that will run on my current hardware, even if only to
> be able to gauge which is more suitable to a particular task.
>
>
> --
> dzomlija
>
> ____________________________________
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn...
>
> - ASUS A8N32-SLi-Deluxe
> - AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
> - 4GB DDR400
> - ASUS nVidia 6600
> - Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
> - 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
> - Vista Ultimate x64
> - CodeGear Delphi 2007

Leopard went GM last week and folks are already receiving their retail
copies.
http://www.macrumors.com/2007/10/24/...ail-box-video/
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Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
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"John" <> wrote in message
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> From what I heard from someone running the BETA, Leopard is not finished!
> Lots of unfixed bugs. No, I hope MS learns anything from Apple. Leopard is
> still OSX. They're releasing an upgrade and charge people for it. What a
> scam!
>
> "Mario" <> wrote in message
> news:8EBB120A-CD3E-45D7-927A-...
>> Tomorrow Mac OSX Leopard will be released and when i see the videos, i
>> think
>> how microsoft, the biggest software company can release this slow, ugly,
>> unfinished operating system, Mac OSX look like a mature product, with a
>> lot
>> of featured than should be in windows vista, Mac OSX is very more
>> friendly
>> than vista and more closer to Longhorn concept than vista.... if Mac OSX
>> could be run in a PC i don't think twice...
>>
>> I feel dissapointed again... Learn from Mac and give us a good product
>>
>> I'm a .NET Programmer, Windows User about ten years...
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>

Mario wrote:
> Tomorrow Mac OSX Leopard will be released and when i see the videos,
> i think how microsoft, the biggest software company can release this
> slow, ugly, unfinished operating system, Mac OSX look like a mature
> product, with a lot of featured than should be in windows vista, Mac
> OSX is very more friendly than vista and more closer to Longhorn
> concept than vista.... if Mac OSX could be run in a PC i don't think
> twice...
>
> I feel dissapointed again... Learn from Mac and give us a good product
>
> I'm a .NET Programmer, Windows User about ten years...

Psst: Microsoft wrote most of the code that runs on a Mac.

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
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> Well, everyone is free to think what they want about Windows, but bashing
> without thorough research and analysis is not the right approach. I think
> Leopard is a solid upgrade that offers some nifty features, I personally
> like Quick Preview, Time Machine and improvements to the Finder. Time
> Machine is really cool because of inviting user interface and the visual
> cues it gives users and the 123 approach to getting persons to backup.
>
> Reading about it now"
> http://www.macworld.com/2007/10/feat...hine/index.php

If time machine works as stated in that articale then it is not a safe
backup program.
Murphy says that you will lose power or crash the machine in the middle of a
backup not execute a controlled shutdown.
What happens then.. the file systems might be corrupted to start with and
you lose your backup.
If it is going to work you need more than one external disk and you need to
keep them in step even though they must never be connected at the same time.
It doesn't look like time machine does that so it is not a primary backup.
BTW I use Memeo on my PC and it does a similar function without the graphics
and to external network locations.

Mac OS X uses a Journaled file system which is designed for such scenarios
you mentioned.
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"dennis@home" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Well, everyone is free to think what they want about Windows, but bashing
>> without thorough research and analysis is not the right approach. I think
>> Leopard is a solid upgrade that offers some nifty features, I personally
>> like Quick Preview, Time Machine and improvements to the Finder. Time
>> Machine is really cool because of inviting user interface and the visual
>> cues it gives users and the 123 approach to getting persons to backup.
>>
>> Reading about it now"
>> http://www.macworld.com/2007/10/feat...hine/index.php
>
> If time machine works as stated in that articale then it is not a safe
> backup program.
> Murphy says that you will lose power or crash the machine in the middle of
> a backup not execute a controlled shutdown.
> What happens then.. the file systems might be corrupted to start with and
> you lose your backup.
> If it is going to work you need more than one external disk and you need
> to keep them in step even though they must never be connected at the same
> time. It doesn't look like time machine does that so it is not a primary
> backup.
> BTW I use Memeo on my PC and it does a similar function without the
> graphics and to external network locations.
>
>