Live Mail and Newgroups

Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
email and newsgroups.
My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
Mail 2011 installed.
In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
everything in place with the need for imports.
The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
the options to check before sending and check as I type.

Advice please.

Henry

I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to receive and read the newsgroup messages.
- i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise need to do so in WLM

Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific info on what part is not working (auto,
highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction suggestions)



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
email and newsgroups.
My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
Mail 2011 installed.
In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
everything in place with the need for imports.
The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
the options to check before sending and check as I type.

Advice please.

Henry

Thank you for a rapid response.

This reply and my original post were both done on a computer with Windows XP
and Outlook Express, as there are no buttons for post or reply in WLM on my
W7 box.
I can assure you that with OE I can select any newsgroup in the list of
many thousands and 'Go to' it to read messages without subscribing.
It's a reasonable way to see what's there and to decide if I really want to
subscribe.
Indeed I wonder if there is any other use for the 'Go to' button.
Once a newsgroup has been subscribed to it, appears in a list of such groups
and is then accessed by clicking on that group.
Newsgroups are provided on my ISP's server which is news.virginmedia.com
here in the UK

Somehow the spell checking now works OK so one problem has gone away..
Perhaps a restart of the application or something similar was needed after
changing the spelling options.

There remains the problem that the ribbon is blank on the Home tab for
Newsgroups.
I forgot to mention previously that it was populated for a brief period one
day before I uninstalled WLM 2011 and installed WLM 2012.
When I next started the computer it was again blank and has been so ever
since.

Henry

"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:keuofp$dtm$...
I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to
subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to
receive and read the newsgroup messages.
- i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise
need to do so in WLM

Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific
info on what part is not working (auto,
highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction
suggestions)



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
email and newsgroups.
My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
Mail 2011 installed.
In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
everything in place with the need for imports.
The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
the options to check before sending and check as I type.

Advice please.

Henry

Got it.
I forgot about the view without subscribe option in OE (it's been a few years since use).
In WLM you cannot view a group without subscribing.



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Dragon" wrote in message news:vSOQs.458$7...

Thank you for a rapid response.

This reply and my original post were both done on a computer with Windows XP
and Outlook Express, as there are no buttons for post or reply in WLM on my
W7 box.
I can assure you that with OE I can select any newsgroup in the list of
many thousands and 'Go to' it to read messages without subscribing.
It's a reasonable way to see what's there and to decide if I really want to
subscribe.
Indeed I wonder if there is any other use for the 'Go to' button.
Once a newsgroup has been subscribed to it, appears in a list of such groups
and is then accessed by clicking on that group.
Newsgroups are provided on my ISP's server which is news.virginmedia.com
here in the UK

Somehow the spell checking now works OK so one problem has gone away..
Perhaps a restart of the application or something similar was needed after
changing the spelling options.

There remains the problem that the ribbon is blank on the Home tab for
Newsgroups.
I forgot to mention previously that it was populated for a brief period one
day before I uninstalled WLM 2011 and installed WLM 2012.
When I next started the computer it was again blank and has been so ever
since.

Henry

"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:keuofp$dtm$...
I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to
subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to
receive and read the newsgroup messages.
- i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise
need to do so in WLM

Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific
info on what part is not working (auto,
highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction
suggestions)



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
email and newsgroups.
My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
Mail 2011 installed.
In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
everything in place with the need for imports.
The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
the options to check before sending and check as I type.

Advice please.

Henry

Thanks for confirming that Winston
I guess I'll live it or use the old box to explore.
I'm still looking for a solution to the blank ribbon problem.

Cheers
Henry

"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:kf3f2l$k2l$...
Got it.
I forgot about the view without subscribe option in OE (it's been a few
years since use).
In WLM you cannot view a group without subscribing.



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Dragon" wrote in message news:vSOQs.458$7...

Thank you for a rapid response.

This reply and my original post were both done on a computer with Windows XP
and Outlook Express, as there are no buttons for post or reply in WLM on my
W7 box.
I can assure you that with OE I can select any newsgroup in the list of
many thousands and 'Go to' it to read messages without subscribing.
It's a reasonable way to see what's there and to decide if I really want to
subscribe.
Indeed I wonder if there is any other use for the 'Go to' button.
Once a newsgroup has been subscribed to it, appears in a list of such groups
and is then accessed by clicking on that group.
Newsgroups are provided on my ISP's server which is news.virginmedia.com
here in the UK

Somehow the spell checking now works OK so one problem has gone away..
Perhaps a restart of the application or something similar was needed after
changing the spelling options.

There remains the problem that the ribbon is blank on the Home tab for
Newsgroups.
I forgot to mention previously that it was populated for a brief period one
day before I uninstalled WLM 2011 and installed WLM 2012.
When I next started the computer it was again blank and has been so ever
since.

Henry

"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:keuofp$dtm$...
I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to
subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to
receive and read the newsgroup messages.
- i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise
need to do so in WLM

Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific
info on what part is not working (auto,
highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction
suggestions)



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
email and newsgroups.
My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
Mail 2011 installed.
In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
everything in place with the need for imports.
The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
the options to check before sending and check as I type.

Advice please.

Henry

"Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
mZdRs.5769$7...

I'm still looking for a solution to the blank ribbon problem.
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Did you right click on the blank line and uncheck the box
" Reduce the ribbon " ?

Jaypie

Sure did.
Even checked and unchecked it a couple of times.
The ribbon is populated in the Folders, View and Accounts tabs.

Whilst I find Winston's comment re subscribing to be correct on my wife's W7
laptop, I wonder what the 'go to' button at the bottom of the list of
newsgroups is for.
I've found comments elsewhere that it is for a preview as I expected but
maybe that was for an earlier version of WLM or just plain wrong!

Henry

"Jaypie" <> wrote in message
news:kf43iu$heu$...
> "Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
> mZdRs.5769$7...
>
> I'm still looking for a solution to the blank ribbon problem.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> Did you right click on the blank line and uncheck the box
> " Reduce the ribbon " ?
>
> Jaypie
>

"Dragon" <> wrote in message
news:rSgRs.8125$b%7...
> Sure did.
> Even checked and unchecked it a couple of times.
> The ribbon is populated in the Folders, View and Accounts tabs.
>
> Whilst I find Winston's comment re subscribing to be correct on my wife's
> W7 laptop, I wonder what the 'go to' button at the bottom of the list of
> newsgroups is for.
> I've found comments elsewhere that it is for a preview as I expected but
> maybe that was for an earlier version of WLM or just plain wrong!

The "Go To" button is designed to take you to the selected newsgroup, by
using it you will only download the number of message headers selected at
tools>options>Read Tab, (default being 300). If you do not visit the
selected group prior to Sync you will get all message headers that are on
the server, sometimes 30/40,000.

HTH?

mac

" mac" <> wrote in message
news:kf48td$crs$...
>
> "Dragon" <> wrote in message
> news:rSgRs.8125$b%7...
>> Sure did.
>> Even checked and unchecked it a couple of times.
>> The ribbon is populated in the Folders, View and Accounts tabs.
>>
>> Whilst I find Winston's comment re subscribing to be correct on my wife's
>> W7 laptop, I wonder what the 'go to' button at the bottom of the list of
>> newsgroups is for.
>> I've found comments elsewhere that it is for a preview as I expected but
>> maybe that was for an earlier version of WLM or just plain wrong!
>
> The "Go To" button is designed to take you to the selected newsgroup, by
> using it you will only download the number of message headers selected at
> tools>options>Read Tab, (default being 300). If you do not visit the
> selected group prior to Sync you will get all message headers that are on
> the server, sometimes 30/40,000.
>
> HTH?
>
> mac

Thanks for trying mac
I thought I was reasonably adept at this sort of thing- well with Outlook
Express anyway.
Number of messages is et at default.
No matter what I do on my new W7 box or my wife's W7 laptop, nothing happens
when I hit the Go to button.
I'm perhaps missing something here.
The complete lack of even basic instructions with WLM doesn't help.
OE was reasonable on that score.

Henry

"Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
33uRs.341$7...


Thanks for trying mac
I thought I was reasonably adept at this sort of thing- well with Outlook
Express anyway.
Number of messages is et at default.
No matter what I do on my new W7 box or my wife's W7 laptop, nothing happens
when I hit the Go to button.
I'm perhaps missing something here.
The complete lack of even basic instructions with WLM doesn't help.
OE was reasonable on that score.

Henry
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Here's what I do to retrieve all group messages :

I go to Options and uncheck the box showing 300.

I click on the name of the news server, a window opens listing all the
groups.
I click on the name of one group then click on subscribe and Go to button.
The group name appears on the left and I click on it in order to get all the
messages.

Hope this will help you.

Jaypie