Localized version - where it all is?

Hi,
I just would like to ask how we can get the full functionality of the Live
Messenger? We have only "Search" item in Activities; Solitaire, Bejeweled
and Minesweeper in Games and the only tab in main window is the contact
list!

Also there is no "Show contacts details" option...

Is this the messenger you use? Even using the US download version did not
helped, the only difference I see that the contact list is actually shown as
a tab...

How can I enable all the cool stuff all of you see and use?

Jan, Czech Republic


PS: I understand that some services may not apply in our country, but come
on, we have almost anything! How can I work out suggestions for features, if
I don't have any already available?

Greetings,

The localization is actually based on your Passport/Windows Live ID locale -- not the actual
language version that you have.

So, if you change your locale at the following URL to the US, you'll get all the
functionality:
https://account.live.com/EditProf.aspx

And yes, I agree this isn't very good.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

"Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
news:F13EF4E0-C450-481A-B84C-...
> Hi,
> I just would like to ask how we can get the full functionality of the Live Messenger? We
> have only "Search" item in Activities; Solitaire, Bejeweled and Minesweeper in Games and
> the only tab in main window is the contact list!
>
> Also there is no "Show contacts details" option...
>
> Is this the messenger you use? Even using the US download version did not helped, the only
> difference I see that the contact list is actually shown as a tab...
>
> How can I enable all the cool stuff all of you see and use?
>
> Jan, Czech Republic
>
>
> PS: I understand that some services may not apply in our country, but come on, we have
> almost anything! How can I work out suggestions for features, if I don't have any already
> available?
>

Hi Jonathan,
thank you for reply. This is definitely answer for my question.... however
are there any plans to change this behaviour?

Thanks,
Jan



"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:17651E70-C26E-4BF1-97CE-...
> Greetings,
>
> The localization is actually based on your Passport/Windows Live ID
> locale -- not the actual language version that you have.
>
> So, if you change your locale at the following URL to the US, you'll get
> all the functionality:
> https://account.live.com/EditProf.aspx
>
> And yes, I agree this isn't very good.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
> news:F13EF4E0-C450-481A-B84C-...
>> Hi,
>> I just would like to ask how we can get the full functionality of the
>> Live Messenger? We have only "Search" item in Activities; Solitaire,
>> Bejeweled and Minesweeper in Games and the only tab in main window is the
>> contact list!
>>
>> Also there is no "Show contacts details" option...
>>
>> Is this the messenger you use? Even using the US download version did
>> not helped, the only difference I see that the contact list is actually
>> shown as a tab...
>>
>> How can I enable all the cool stuff all of you see and use?
>>
>> Jan, Czech Republic
>>
>>
>> PS: I understand that some services may not apply in our country, but
>> come on, we have almost anything! How can I work out suggestions for
>> features, if I don't have any already available?
>>
>
>

Maybe I'll change the question a little bit, what can I do to enable similar
services in our region? I don't mean as a pc user through settings, I mean
as a developer, or as a part of the local Live community. I am able to write
service which will display a local wheather forecast or list of upcoming
concerts or movies for example, but it doesn't seem aynbody is interested
in.

This is as the local services are concerned. What I do not understand, why
the games and activities are not available in all regions?

If I can do anything about improving messenger in our region, let me know, I
certainly would like.

Jan



"Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
news:EE25F924-7EE2-45A6-B80B-...
> Hi Jonathan,
> thank you for reply. This is definitely answer for my question....
> however are there any plans to change this behaviour?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:17651E70-C26E-4BF1-97CE-...
>> Greetings,
>>
>> The localization is actually based on your Passport/Windows Live ID
>> locale -- not the actual language version that you have.
>>
>> So, if you change your locale at the following URL to the US, you'll get
>> all the functionality:
>> https://account.live.com/EditProf.aspx
>>
>> And yes, I agree this isn't very good.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
>> news:F13EF4E0-C450-481A-B84C-...
>>> Hi,
>>> I just would like to ask how we can get the full functionality of the
>>> Live Messenger? We have only "Search" item in Activities; Solitaire,
>>> Bejeweled and Minesweeper in Games and the only tab in main window is
>>> the contact list!
>>>
>>> Also there is no "Show contacts details" option...
>>>
>>> Is this the messenger you use? Even using the US download version did
>>> not helped, the only difference I see that the contact list is actually
>>> shown as a tab...
>>>
>>> How can I enable all the cool stuff all of you see and use?
>>>
>>> Jan, Czech Republic
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: I understand that some services may not apply in our country, but
>>> come on, we have almost anything! How can I work out suggestions for
>>> features, if I don't have any already available?
>>>
>>
>>
>

Hi Jan,

There's no plans to change this behavior, the local MSN partners like it too much.

There's a process involved in getting something into the other locales involving a legal
process, language translation of course and culture research. For instance, the Minesweeper
flags game could offend those in countries where landmines are sadly in existence. Indeed
this is why the Minesweeper game in Vista now has a "flower garden" option.

Also, some activities are sponsored by a certain company and they're only targeting a
specific locale so they don't show up anywhere else.

So, really it's not something anyone can really help out with

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--



"Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
news:015BBCAC-944C-4777-93A0-...
> Maybe I'll change the question a little bit, what can I do to enable similar services in
> our region? I don't mean as a pc user through settings, I mean as a developer, or as a part
> of the local Live community. I am able to write service which will display a local wheather
> forecast or list of upcoming concerts or movies for example, but it doesn't seem aynbody is
> interested in.
>
> This is as the local services are concerned. What I do not understand, why the games and
> activities are not available in all regions?
>
> If I can do anything about improving messenger in our region, let me know, I certainly
> would like.
>
> Jan
>
>
>
> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
> news:EE25F924-7EE2-45A6-B80B-...
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> thank you for reply. This is definitely answer for my question.... however are there any
>> plans to change this behaviour?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:17651E70-C26E-4BF1-97CE-...
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> The localization is actually based on your Passport/Windows Live ID locale -- not the
>>> actual language version that you have.
>>>
>>> So, if you change your locale at the following URL to the US, you'll get all the
>>> functionality:
>>> https://account.live.com/EditProf.aspx
>>>
>>> And yes, I agree this isn't very good.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Kay
>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>>> Associate Expert
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
>>> news:F13EF4E0-C450-481A-B84C-...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I just would like to ask how we can get the full functionality of the Live Messenger?
>>>> We have only "Search" item in Activities; Solitaire, Bejeweled and Minesweeper in Games
>>>> and the only tab in main window is the contact list!
>>>>
>>>> Also there is no "Show contacts details" option...
>>>>
>>>> Is this the messenger you use? Even using the US download version did not helped, the
>>>> only difference I see that the contact list is actually shown as a tab...
>>>>
>>>> How can I enable all the cool stuff all of you see and use?
>>>>
>>>> Jan, Czech Republic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS: I understand that some services may not apply in our country, but come on, we have
>>>> almost anything! How can I work out suggestions for features, if I don't have any
>>>> already available?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Well that means I must become a MSN partner to be allowed to extend the
messenger? Do I have to pay for it?

Jan



"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:5487F257-DF94-43A0-BDCA-...
> Hi Jan,
>
> There's no plans to change this behavior, the local MSN partners like it
> too much.
>
> There's a process involved in getting something into the other locales
> involving a legal process, language translation of course and culture
> research. For instance, the Minesweeper flags game could offend those in
> countries where landmines are sadly in existence. Indeed this is why the
> Minesweeper game in Vista now has a "flower garden" option.
>
> Also, some activities are sponsored by a certain company and they're only
> targeting a specific locale so they don't show up anywhere else.
>
> So, really it's not something anyone can really help out with
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
>
> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
> news:015BBCAC-944C-4777-93A0-...
>> Maybe I'll change the question a little bit, what can I do to enable
>> similar services in our region? I don't mean as a pc user through
>> settings, I mean as a developer, or as a part of the local Live
>> community. I am able to write service which will display a local wheather
>> forecast or list of upcoming concerts or movies for example, but it
>> doesn't seem aynbody is interested in.
>>
>> This is as the local services are concerned. What I do not understand,
>> why the games and activities are not available in all regions?
>>
>> If I can do anything about improving messenger in our region, let me
>> know, I certainly would like.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
>> news:EE25F924-7EE2-45A6-B80B-...
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>> thank you for reply. This is definitely answer for my question....
>>> however are there any plans to change this behaviour?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:17651E70-C26E-4BF1-97CE-...
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> The localization is actually based on your Passport/Windows Live ID
>>>> locale -- not the actual language version that you have.
>>>>
>>>> So, if you change your locale at the following URL to the US, you'll
>>>> get all the functionality:
>>>> https://account.live.com/EditProf.aspx
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I agree this isn't very good.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:F13EF4E0-C450-481A-B84C-...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I just would like to ask how we can get the full functionality of the
>>>>> Live Messenger? We have only "Search" item in Activities; Solitaire,
>>>>> Bejeweled and Minesweeper in Games and the only tab in main window is
>>>>> the contact list!
>>>>>
>>>>> Also there is no "Show contacts details" option...
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the messenger you use? Even using the US download version did
>>>>> not helped, the only difference I see that the contact list is
>>>>> actually shown as a tab...
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I enable all the cool stuff all of you see and use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan, Czech Republic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: I understand that some services may not apply in our country, but
>>>>> come on, we have almost anything! How can I work out suggestions for
>>>>> features, if I don't have any already available?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi Jan,

Actually no, you can make P4 (activities) using the public API and have them integrated into
Messenger via the Live Gallery (http://gallery.live.com).

However, to actually get them on the Activities list itself you have to be a partner and yes
you have pay.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

"Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
news:7C578B7C-2EC7-44DA-BA16-...
> Well that means I must become a MSN partner to be allowed to extend the messenger? Do I
> have to pay for it?
>
> Jan
>
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:5487F257-DF94-43A0-BDCA-...
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> There's no plans to change this behavior, the local MSN partners like it too much.
>>
>> There's a process involved in getting something into the other locales involving a legal
>> process, language translation of course and culture research. For instance, the
>> Minesweeper flags game could offend those in countries where landmines are sadly in
>> existence. Indeed this is why the Minesweeper game in Vista now has a "flower garden"
>> option.
>>
>> Also, some activities are sponsored by a certain company and they're only targeting a
>> specific locale so they don't show up anywhere else.
>>
>> So, really it's not something anyone can really help out with
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
>> news:015BBCAC-944C-4777-93A0-...
>>> Maybe I'll change the question a little bit, what can I do to enable similar services in
>>> our region? I don't mean as a pc user through settings, I mean as a developer, or as a
>>> part of the local Live community. I am able to write service which will display a local
>>> wheather forecast or list of upcoming concerts or movies for example, but it doesn't seem
>>> aynbody is interested in.
>>>
>>> This is as the local services are concerned. What I do not understand, why the games and
>>> activities are not available in all regions?
>>>
>>> If I can do anything about improving messenger in our region, let me know, I certainly
>>> would like.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
>>> news:EE25F924-7EE2-45A6-B80B-...
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>> thank you for reply. This is definitely answer for my question.... however are there
>>>> any plans to change this behaviour?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:17651E70-C26E-4BF1-97CE-...
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> The localization is actually based on your Passport/Windows Live ID locale -- not the
>>>>> actual language version that you have.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, if you change your locale at the following URL to the US, you'll get all the
>>>>> functionality:
>>>>> https://account.live.com/EditProf.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, I agree this isn't very good.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>>>>> Associate Expert
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>>>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jan Kucera" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:F13EF4E0-C450-481A-B84C-...
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I just would like to ask how we can get the full functionality of the Live Messenger?
>>>>>> We have only "Search" item in Activities; Solitaire, Bejeweled and Minesweeper in
>>>>>> Games and the only tab in main window is the contact list!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also there is no "Show contacts details" option...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this the messenger you use? Even using the US download version did not helped, the
>>>>>> only difference I see that the contact list is actually shown as a tab...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I enable all the cool stuff all of you see and use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan, Czech Republic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: I understand that some services may not apply in our country, but come on, we have
>>>>>> almost anything! How can I work out suggestions for features, if I don't have any
>>>>>> already available?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>