Long Delay Opening Attachments and often crashes

I have Avast AV with the E-Mail part turned off. Many attachments (but not
all) in WM, when double clicked, cause a long delay and a (not responding)
error message on the top line of the E-Mail. If you leave it, then it may
open after 45 seconds or more. If you close with the red X at top right
hand corner it pops up a small menu with choices for exiting. Saving the
attachment to the HD will always allow it to open normally. Adobe and Excel
are probably the worst culprits. Very annoying, particularly as it seems to
work perfectly most of the time.

Vista Ultimate, 3 Gb RAM, Full Adobe Acrobat Pro, MS Office 2007 Pro and all
updates up to date for everything and all drivers updated. Note this
problem has always been there and not something new.

Getting close to moving to Thunderbird, but would like to solve this one
first.

Frenchy

"Frenchy" <> wrote in message
news:fft5u7$a6g$...
>I have Avast AV with the E-Mail part turned off. Many attachments (but not
>all) in WM, when double clicked, cause a long delay and a (not responding)
>error message on the top line of the E-Mail. If you leave it, then it may
>open after 45 seconds or more. If you close with the red X at top right
>hand corner it pops up a small menu with choices for exiting. Saving the
>attachment to the HD will always allow it to open normally. Adobe and
>Excel are probably the worst culprits. Very annoying, particularly as it
>seems to work perfectly most of the time.
>
> Vista Ultimate, 3 Gb RAM, Full Adobe Acrobat Pro, MS Office 2007 Pro and
> all updates up to date for everything and all drivers updated. Note this
> problem has always been there and not something new.
>
> Getting close to moving to Thunderbird, but would like to solve this one
> first.
>
> Frenchy

It's a combination of Windows Mail and whatever program opens that kind of
file. First Windows Mail has to decide it and then the pertinent part of
the other program has to open it and display it.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not send email

Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM wrote:
> "Frenchy" <> wrote in message
> news:fft5u7$a6g$...
>> I have Avast AV with the E-Mail part turned off. Many attachments
>> (but not all) in WM, when double clicked, cause a long delay and a
>> (not responding) error message on the top line of the E-Mail. If you
>> leave it, then it may open after 45 seconds or more. If you close
>> with the red X at top right hand corner it pops up a small menu with
>> choices for exiting. Saving the attachment to the HD will always
>> allow it to open normally. Adobe and Excel are probably the worst
>> culprits. Very annoying, particularly as it seems to work perfectly
>> most of the time.
>>
>> Vista Ultimate, 3 Gb RAM, Full Adobe Acrobat Pro, MS Office 2007 Pro
>> and all updates up to date for everything and all drivers updated.
>> Note this problem has always been there and not something new.
>>
>> Getting close to moving to Thunderbird, but would like to solve this
>> one first.
>>
>> Frenchy
>
> It's a combination of Windows Mail and whatever program opens that kind
> of file. First Windows Mail has to decide it and then the pertinent
> part of the other program has to open it and display it.
>
Yeh, I kinda understood that but WHY sometimes no problems for days and
other times it goes into "Not responding"??

Never happened with OE, which had to make the same decisions

I have now migrated to Thunderbird for Mail, until WM gets itself sorted.

WAY too many problems

Frenchy

* Frenchy:
> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM wrote:
>> "Frenchy" <> wrote in message
>> news:fft5u7$a6g$...
>>> I have Avast AV with the E-Mail part turned off. Many attachments
>>> (but not all) in WM, when double clicked, cause a long delay and a
>>> (not responding) error message on the top line of the E-Mail. If you
>>> leave it, then it may open after 45 seconds or more. If you close
>>> with the red X at top right hand corner it pops up a small menu with
>>> choices for exiting. Saving the attachment to the HD will always
>>> allow it to open normally. Adobe and Excel are probably the worst
>>> culprits. Very annoying, particularly as it seems to work perfectly
>>> most of the time.
>>>
>>> Vista Ultimate, 3 Gb RAM, Full Adobe Acrobat Pro, MS Office 2007 Pro
>>> and all updates up to date for everything and all drivers updated.
>>> Note this problem has always been there and not something new.
>>>
>>> Getting close to moving to Thunderbird, but would like to solve this
>>> one first.
>>>
>>> Frenchy
>> It's a combination of Windows Mail and whatever program opens that kind
>> of file. First Windows Mail has to decide it and then the pertinent
>> part of the other program has to open it and display it.
>>
> Yeh, I kinda understood that but WHY sometimes no problems for days and
> other times it goes into "Not responding"??
>
> Never happened with OE, which had to make the same decisions
>
> I have now migrated to Thunderbird for Mail, until WM gets itself sorted.
>
> WAY too many problems

Don't expect Windows Mail to get "sorted" too much.
Windows Live Mail should continue improving, but
Windows Mail has been pretty much abandoned. Oh, there
will be some security updates and maybe a bug here and there fixed-
other than that, the pitiful thing called Windows Mail will be
pulled/replaced at some point by Windows Live Mail.

It just doesn't make sense for Microsoft to maintain two
new free email clients.... none. Outlook Express also has
no more ongoing development. However, OE is a mature
product and doesn't matter as much for those who will
continue using it in XP.... it just works. Although, I think
one of the developers did say they might even replace OE
with WLM at some point. That makes some sense, too-
having just *one* free email client to worry about across both
XP and Vista. Although, I can imagine the uproar from a lot
of OE users if it was a forced replacement. XP is going to be
around and in large numbers for several more years, hard to
say exactly what Microsoft will do.

Seriously, if I were to make a suggestion about what email
client/newsreader to use in Vista- it would have to be Thunderbird
first and then Windows Live Mail. Actually, if a user has Office,
Outlook is by far the superior email client to anything out there.
If someone doesn't have Outlook, then IMO it would have to
be Thunderbird over WLM, at least until WLM makes some more
improvements. Especially in how it handles newsgroups.

It just doesn't make much sense to suggest a program that
is not real good and doesn't have a future... Windows Mail
will not get much better because it's basically DOA.


-Michael

MICHAEL wrote:
> * Frenchy:
>> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM wrote:
>>> "Frenchy" <> wrote in message
>>> news:fft5u7$a6g$...
>>>> I have Avast AV with the E-Mail part turned off. Many attachments
>>>> (but not all) in WM, when double clicked, cause a long delay and a
>>>> (not responding) error message on the top line of the E-Mail. If you
>>>> leave it, then it may open after 45 seconds or more. If you close
>>>> with the red X at top right hand corner it pops up a small menu with
>>>> choices for exiting. Saving the attachment to the HD will always
>>>> allow it to open normally. Adobe and Excel are probably the worst
>>>> culprits. Very annoying, particularly as it seems to work perfectly
>>>> most of the time.
>>>>
>>>> Vista Ultimate, 3 Gb RAM, Full Adobe Acrobat Pro, MS Office 2007 Pro
>>>> and all updates up to date for everything and all drivers updated.
>>>> Note this problem has always been there and not something new.
>>>>
>>>> Getting close to moving to Thunderbird, but would like to solve this
>>>> one first.
>>>>
>>>> Frenchy
>>> It's a combination of Windows Mail and whatever program opens that kind
>>> of file. First Windows Mail has to decide it and then the pertinent
>>> part of the other program has to open it and display it.
>>>
>> Yeh, I kinda understood that but WHY sometimes no problems for days and
>> other times it goes into "Not responding"??
>>
>> Never happened with OE, which had to make the same decisions
>>
>> I have now migrated to Thunderbird for Mail, until WM gets itself sorted.
>>
>> WAY too many problems
>
> Don't expect Windows Mail to get "sorted" too much.
> Windows Live Mail should continue improving, but
> Windows Mail has been pretty much abandoned. Oh, there
> will be some security updates and maybe a bug here and there fixed-
> other than that, the pitiful thing called Windows Mail will be
> pulled/replaced at some point by Windows Live Mail.
>
> It just doesn't make sense for Microsoft to maintain two
> new free email clients.... none. Outlook Express also has
> no more ongoing development. However, OE is a mature
> product and doesn't matter as much for those who will
> continue using it in XP.... it just works. Although, I think
> one of the developers did say they might even replace OE
> with WLM at some point. That makes some sense, too-
> having just *one* free email client to worry about across both
> XP and Vista. Although, I can imagine the uproar from a lot
> of OE users if it was a forced replacement. XP is going to be
> around and in large numbers for several more years, hard to
> say exactly what Microsoft will do.
>
> Seriously, if I were to make a suggestion about what email
> client/newsreader to use in Vista- it would have to be Thunderbird
> first and then Windows Live Mail. Actually, if a user has Office,
> Outlook is by far the superior email client to anything out there.
> If someone doesn't have Outlook, then IMO it would have to
> be Thunderbird over WLM, at least until WLM makes some more
> improvements. Especially in how it handles newsgroups.
>
> It just doesn't make much sense to suggest a program that
> is not real good and doesn't have a future... Windows Mail
> will not get much better because it's basically DOA.
>
>
> -Michael

Thanks the detailed reply. I have Outlook 2007 but I have always
resisted that's use. I have just installed Thunderbird and it seems OK
BUT I wish I could find the setting in News Groups to only view Unread
ones. WM and OE handles that well in active NG's. After seeing what
you wanted, Mark them as ALL READ and then when you come back you only
see the new ones. If I select Unread under the VIEW/FOLDERS that also
affects my Mail messages and I only want it for News.

Sorry, I better find a Thunderbird NG <smile>

Frenchy

Have you tried Windows Live Mail?

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"Frenchy" <> wrote in message news:ffun0o$bao$...
> MICHAEL wrote:
>> * Frenchy:
>>> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM wrote:
>>>> "Frenchy" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:fft5u7$a6g$...
>>>>> I have Avast AV with the E-Mail part turned off. Many attachments
>>>>> (but not all) in WM, when double clicked, cause a long delay and a
>>>>> (not responding) error message on the top line of the E-Mail. If you
>>>>> leave it, then it may open after 45 seconds or more. If you close
>>>>> with the red X at top right hand corner it pops up a small menu with
>>>>> choices for exiting. Saving the attachment to the HD will always
>>>>> allow it to open normally. Adobe and Excel are probably the worst
>>>>> culprits. Very annoying, particularly as it seems to work perfectly
>>>>> most of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista Ultimate, 3 Gb RAM, Full Adobe Acrobat Pro, MS Office 2007 Pro
>>>>> and all updates up to date for everything and all drivers updated.
>>>>> Note this problem has always been there and not something new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting close to moving to Thunderbird, but would like to solve this
>>>>> one first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frenchy
>>>> It's a combination of Windows Mail and whatever program opens that kind
>>>> of file. First Windows Mail has to decide it and then the pertinent
>>>> part of the other program has to open it and display it.
>>>>
>>> Yeh, I kinda understood that but WHY sometimes no problems for days and
>>> other times it goes into "Not responding"??
>>>
>>> Never happened with OE, which had to make the same decisions
>>>
>>> I have now migrated to Thunderbird for Mail, until WM gets itself sorted.
>>>
>>> WAY too many problems
>>
>> Don't expect Windows Mail to get "sorted" too much.
>> Windows Live Mail should continue improving, but
>> Windows Mail has been pretty much abandoned. Oh, there
>> will be some security updates and maybe a bug here and there fixed-
>> other than that, the pitiful thing called Windows Mail will be
>> pulled/replaced at some point by Windows Live Mail.
>>
>> It just doesn't make sense for Microsoft to maintain two
>> new free email clients.... none. Outlook Express also has
>> no more ongoing development. However, OE is a mature
>> product and doesn't matter as much for those who will
>> continue using it in XP.... it just works. Although, I think
>> one of the developers did say they might even replace OE
>> with WLM at some point. That makes some sense, too-
>> having just *one* free email client to worry about across both
>> XP and Vista. Although, I can imagine the uproar from a lot
>> of OE users if it was a forced replacement. XP is going to be
>> around and in large numbers for several more years, hard to
>> say exactly what Microsoft will do.
>>
>> Seriously, if I were to make a suggestion about what email
>> client/newsreader to use in Vista- it would have to be Thunderbird
>> first and then Windows Live Mail. Actually, if a user has Office,
>> Outlook is by far the superior email client to anything out there.
>> If someone doesn't have Outlook, then IMO it would have to
>> be Thunderbird over WLM, at least until WLM makes some more
>> improvements. Especially in how it handles newsgroups.
>>
>> It just doesn't make much sense to suggest a program that
>> is not real good and doesn't have a future... Windows Mail
>> will not get much better because it's basically DOA.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>
> Thanks the detailed reply. I have Outlook 2007 but I have always
> resisted that's use. I have just installed Thunderbird and it seems OK
> BUT I wish I could find the setting in News Groups to only view Unread
> ones. WM and OE handles that well in active NG's. After seeing what
> you wanted, Mark them as ALL READ and then when you come back you only
> see the new ones. If I select Unread under the VIEW/FOLDERS that also
> affects my Mail messages and I only want it for News.
>
> Sorry, I better find a Thunderbird NG <smile>
>
> Frenchy