Major backup issues in RC1 that needs to be addressed

I just download RC1 and checked out the new backups and found some surprising
problems that haven't been addressed as far as I know.
The biggest and most surprising to me is that encrypted files don’t get
backed up. And there is no warning of this. So if you encrypt a folder the
files just get skipped. This is NOT GOOD. As people will think files are
getting backed up when they are not.
With the new “ZIP� type format MS is using although nice is some ways,
doesn’t seem like it could keep the EFS files encrypted, which is why they
probably skip them. This is a huge flaw! I think vista needs the old ntbackup
put back in for power users.
Another thing is you can’t specify the paths you want to backup anymore, you
just get these vague file types, our company partitions all our drive to C
and D and all user data is on D. There doesn’t seem to be away to point the
new backups at the drives and paths we want. What I would like to see is the
NTbackup put back in, for those who know how to use it and already use it in
XP. The new system is nice for the very dumb, but not for the power user. And
the EFS thing needs to be addressed.
One more non backup related thing, I used to be able the change the location
of the “My Documents� to D:\ which is where we put all user data… by right
clicking and changing the path.. Can’t seem to find that in Visa. Anyone know
where I can find that?

Thanks

I have the same problem.
I have RC1 or Build 5600, whatever it counts for and i tried to backup my
Drive which has all my documents, but it doesn't let you choose it at all
They really need to fix it.
Hopefully solutions or future editions will come soon

"audio" wrote:

> I just download RC1 and checked out the new backups and found some surprising
> problems that haven't been addressed as far as I know.
> The biggest and most surprising to me is that encrypted files don’t get
> backed up. And there is no warning of this. So if you encrypt a folder the
> files just get skipped. This is NOT GOOD. As people will think files are
> getting backed up when they are not.
> With the new “ZIP� type format MS is using although nice is some ways,
> doesn’t seem like it could keep the EFS files encrypted, which is why they
> probably skip them. This is a huge flaw! I think vista needs the old ntbackup
> put back in for power users.
> Another thing is you can’t specify the paths you want to backup anymore, you
> just get these vague file types, our company partitions all our drive to C
> and D and all user data is on D. There doesn’t seem to be away to point the
> new backups at the drives and paths we want. What I would like to see is the
> NTbackup put back in, for those who know how to use it and already use it in
> XP. The new system is nice for the very dumb, but not for the power user. And
> the EFS thing needs to be addressed.
> One more non backup related thing, I used to be able the change the location
> of the “My Documents� to D:\ which is where we put all user data… by right
> clicking and changing the path.. Can’t seem to find that in Visa. Anyone know
> where I can find that?
>
> Thanks
>

I have the same problem.
I have RC1 or Build 5600, whatever it counts for and i tried to backup my
Drive which has all my documents, but it doesn't let you choose it at all
They really need to fix it.
Hopefully solutions or future editions will come soon
And also there is very little help in reading the Beta 2 backups that are
just Zip files and one catalouge that allows you to set an automatic timer,
but doesn't allow me to save it in the C drive (XP PRO)

"audio" wrote:

> I just download RC1 and checked out the new backups and found some surprising
> problems that haven't been addressed as far as I know.
> The biggest and most surprising to me is that encrypted files don’t get
> backed up. And there is no warning of this. So if you encrypt a folder the
> files just get skipped. This is NOT GOOD. As people will think files are
> getting backed up when they are not.
> With the new “ZIP� type format MS is using although nice is some ways,
> doesn’t seem like it could keep the EFS files encrypted, which is why they
> probably skip them. This is a huge flaw! I think vista needs the old ntbackup
> put back in for power users.
> Another thing is you can’t specify the paths you want to backup anymore, you
> just get these vague file types, our company partitions all our drive to C
> and D and all user data is on D. There doesn’t seem to be away to point the
> new backups at the drives and paths we want. What I would like to see is the
> NTbackup put back in, for those who know how to use it and already use it in
> XP. The new system is nice for the very dumb, but not for the power user. And
> the EFS thing needs to be addressed.
> One more non backup related thing, I used to be able the change the location
> of the “My Documents� to D:\ which is where we put all user data… by right
> clicking and changing the path.. Can’t seem to find that in Visa. Anyone know
> where I can find that?
>
> Thanks
>

To change locations of folders, such as documents, pictures, etc., right
click on the folder and choose properties. There should be a tab labeled
location. From there you can change the location of each folder to wherever
you want. It will also give you the option to move files from the old to
the new location, which Vista suggests you do. I've done it with pictures,
videos, documents, etc. and it works fine.


"audio" <> wrote in message
news:3C900BA9-BD9D-4780-BD7E-...
>I just download RC1 and checked out the new backups and found some
>surprising
> problems that haven't been addressed as far as I know.
> The biggest and most surprising to me is that encrypted files don’t get
> backed up. And there is no warning of this. So if you encrypt a folder the
> files just get skipped. This is NOT GOOD. As people will think files are
> getting backed up when they are not.
> With the new “ZIP� type format MS is using although nice is some ways,
> doesn’t seem like it could keep the EFS files encrypted, which is why they
> probably skip them. This is a huge flaw! I think vista needs the old
> ntbackup
> put back in for power users.
> Another thing is you can’t specify the paths you want to backup anymore,
> you
> just get these vague file types, our company partitions all our drive to C
> and D and all user data is on D. There doesn’t seem to be away to point
> the
> new backups at the drives and paths we want. What I would like to see is
> the
> NTbackup put back in, for those who know how to use it and already use it
> in
> XP. The new system is nice for the very dumb, but not for the power user.
> And
> the EFS thing needs to be addressed.
> One more non backup related thing, I used to be able the change the
> location
> of the “My Documents� to D:\ which is where we put all user data… by right
> clicking and changing the path.. Can’t seem to find that in Visa. Anyone
> know
> where I can find that?
>
> Thanks
>

great so what you could with one step before, you now have to do with each
folder? Crazy


"Jo" <> wrote in message
news:C355295C-521F-47E8-9B63-...
> To change locations of folders, such as documents, pictures, etc., right
> click on the folder and choose properties. There should be a tab labeled
> location. From there you can change the location of each folder to
> wherever you want. It will also give you the option to move files from
> the old to the new location, which Vista suggests you do. I've done it
> with pictures, videos, documents, etc. and it works fine.
>
>
> "audio" <> wrote in message
> news:3C900BA9-BD9D-4780-BD7E-...
>>I just download RC1 and checked out the new backups and found some
>>surprising
>> problems that haven't been addressed as far as I know.
>> The biggest and most surprising to me is that encrypted files don't get
>> backed up. And there is no warning of this. So if you encrypt a folder
>> the
>> files just get skipped. This is NOT GOOD. As people will think files are
>> getting backed up when they are not.
>> With the new "ZIP" type format MS is using although nice is some ways,
>> doesn't seem like it could keep the EFS files encrypted, which is why
>> they
>> probably skip them. This is a huge flaw! I think vista needs the old
>> ntbackup
>> put back in for power users.
>> Another thing is you can't specify the paths you want to backup anymore,
>> you
>> just get these vague file types, our company partitions all our drive to
>> C
>> and D and all user data is on D. There doesn't seem to be away to point
>> the
>> new backups at the drives and paths we want. What I would like to see is
>> the
>> NTbackup put back in, for those who know how to use it and already use it
>> in
>> XP. The new system is nice for the very dumb, but not for the power user.
>> And
>> the EFS thing needs to be addressed.
>> One more non backup related thing, I used to be able the change the
>> location
>> of the "My Documents" to D:\ which is where we put all user data. by
>> right
>> clicking and changing the path.. Can't seem to find that in Visa. Anyone
>> know
>> where I can find that?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

Any info from MS how to back up EFSed files/dir? Maybe I just missed
something and it can be done.

"audio" <> wrote in message
news:3C900BA9-BD9D-4780-BD7E-...
>I just download RC1 and checked out the new backups and found some
>surprising
> problems that haven't been addressed as far as I know.
> The biggest and most surprising to me is that encrypted files don't get
> backed up. And there is no warning of this. So if you encrypt a folder the
> files just get skipped. This is NOT GOOD. As people will think files are
> getting backed up when they are not.
> With the new "ZIP" type format MS is using although nice is some ways,
> doesn't seem like it could keep the EFS files encrypted, which is why they
> probably skip them. This is a huge flaw! I think vista needs the old
> ntbackup
> put back in for power users.
> Another thing is you can't specify the paths you want to backup anymore,
> you
> just get these vague file types, our company partitions all our drive to C
> and D and all user data is on D. There doesn't seem to be away to point
> the
> new backups at the drives and paths we want. What I would like to see is
> the
> NTbackup put back in, for those who know how to use it and already use it
> in
> XP. The new system is nice for the very dumb, but not for the power user.
> And
> the EFS thing needs to be addressed.
> One more non backup related thing, I used to be able the change the
> location
> of the "My Documents" to D:\ which is where we put all user data. by right
> clicking and changing the path.. Can't seem to find that in Visa. Anyone
> know
> where I can find that?
>
> Thanks
>

Had a look at backup and tested it out. Now the last thing I need is files
backed up that are unreadable. (Always hated tape backups and the time taken
to restore files)So I reverted to good old SyncToy, part of the Powertoys. At
least my files are readable and easily searched or restored.

A full backup may be useful to restore a failed drive, however with my
important files backed up and easily accessible, MS backup is a waste of
space for me. Easier to do an new install.

Jonty

"C Kelley" wrote:

> Any info from MS how to back up EFSed files/dir? Maybe I just missed
> something and it can be done.
>
> "audio" <> wrote in message
> news:3C900BA9-BD9D-4780-BD7E-...
> >I just download RC1 and checked out the new backups and found some
> >surprising
> > problems that haven't been addressed as far as I know.
> > The biggest and most surprising to me is that encrypted files don't get
> > backed up. And there is no warning of this. So if you encrypt a folder the
> > files just get skipped. This is NOT GOOD. As people will think files are
> > getting backed up when they are not.
> > With the new "ZIP" type format MS is using although nice is some ways,
> > doesn't seem like it could keep the EFS files encrypted, which is why they
> > probably skip them. This is a huge flaw! I think vista needs the old
> > ntbackup
> > put back in for power users.
> > Another thing is you can't specify the paths you want to backup anymore,
> > you
> > just get these vague file types, our company partitions all our drive to C
> > and D and all user data is on D. There doesn't seem to be away to point
> > the
> > new backups at the drives and paths we want. What I would like to see is
> > the
> > NTbackup put back in, for those who know how to use it and already use it
> > in
> > XP. The new system is nice for the very dumb, but not for the power user.
> > And
> > the EFS thing needs to be addressed.
> > One more non backup related thing, I used to be able the change the
> > location
> > of the "My Documents" to D:\ which is where we put all user data. by right
> > clicking and changing the path.. Can't seem to find that in Visa. Anyone
> > know
> > where I can find that?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>
>