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InsaneEyeDoctor
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      06-17-2007
How many reinstalls of Vista Ultimate are allowed before I'll have to call in
for re-authorization? If a disabled veteran without a lot of money is trying
to learn how to lay out a basic network with Active Directory on Server 2003
with Vista Ultimate Client(s), and use Virtualization technology in the
process, what would be the best thing for them to do. I'm interested in
trying both OS's as Hosts for Virtual Networking. Unfortunately, I don't
qualify for Vista Enterprise. What would your recommendation be as to how to
do this as cost-effectively as possible without rapidly hitting the reinstall
limitations begun with Windows XP?
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Tiberius
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      06-17-2007
you cannot install the same vista product key *license* on more than one
machine physical or virtual.

however if you want, there is a free virtual machine download *VHD* that is
actually Vista that will last for 30 days...

do you want that?


"InsaneEyeDoctor" <.(like I don''''t get spam already?)>
wrote in message news:E86F7B51-524C-409B-84DB-...
> How many reinstalls of Vista Ultimate are allowed before I'll have to call
> in
> for re-authorization? If a disabled veteran without a lot of money is
> trying
> to learn how to lay out a basic network with Active Directory on Server
> 2003
> with Vista Ultimate Client(s), and use Virtualization technology in the
> process, what would be the best thing for them to do. I'm interested in
> trying both OS's as Hosts for Virtual Networking. Unfortunately, I don't
> qualify for Vista Enterprise. What would your recommendation be as to how
> to
> do this as cost-effectively as possible without rapidly hitting the
> reinstall
> limitations begun with Windows XP?
> --
> Help Disabled American Veterans reclaim the future they sacrificed in
> service to our nation and world security in general. Put someone in a
> wheelchair in front of a computer with the right software!



 
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Tiberius
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      06-17-2007
Microsoft Windows Vista 30-Day Eval VHD

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

you can download virtual pc that is free to load this on...

hope this helps

"InsaneEyeDoctor" <.(like I don''''t get spam already?)>
wrote in message news:E86F7B51-524C-409B-84DB-...
> How many reinstalls of Vista Ultimate are allowed before I'll have to call
> in
> for re-authorization? If a disabled veteran without a lot of money is
> trying
> to learn how to lay out a basic network with Active Directory on Server
> 2003
> with Vista Ultimate Client(s), and use Virtualization technology in the
> process, what would be the best thing for them to do. I'm interested in
> trying both OS's as Hosts for Virtual Networking. Unfortunately, I don't
> qualify for Vista Enterprise. What would your recommendation be as to how
> to
> do this as cost-effectively as possible without rapidly hitting the
> reinstall
> limitations begun with Windows XP?
> --
> Help Disabled American Veterans reclaim the future they sacrificed in
> service to our nation and world security in general. Put someone in a
> wheelchair in front of a computer with the right software!



 
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InsaneEyeDoctor
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      06-18-2007
How many reinstalls to the same machine will Vista Ultimate allow before it
requires phone calls for activation? Please do not repeat the same answer to
this question. We are not talking about installing Vista Ultimate to more
than one machine. From your reply I understand now that there is absolutely
no difference between an OEM and a Retail version.....if your computer burns
down your Retail copy of Ultimate is absolutely useless, just like the OEM
version would be. You can't build yourself a new computer with better parts
and put the retail version on it because it was already installed once on a
machine that no longer exists. This is certainly going to make the news!

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service to our nation and world security in general. Put someone in a
wheelchair in front of a computer with the right software!


"Tiberius" wrote:

> you cannot install the same vista product key *license* on more than one
> machine physical or virtual.
>
> however if you want, there is a free virtual machine download *VHD* that is
> actually Vista that will last for 30 days...
>
> do you want that?
>
>
> "InsaneEyeDoctor" <.(like I don''''t get spam already?)>
> wrote in message news:E86F7B51-524C-409B-84DB-...
> > How many reinstalls of Vista Ultimate are allowed before I'll have to call
> > in
> > for re-authorization? If a disabled veteran without a lot of money is
> > trying
> > to learn how to lay out a basic network with Active Directory on Server
> > 2003
> > with Vista Ultimate Client(s), and use Virtualization technology in the
> > process, what would be the best thing for them to do. I'm interested in
> > trying both OS's as Hosts for Virtual Networking. Unfortunately, I don't
> > qualify for Vista Enterprise. What would your recommendation be as to how
> > to
> > do this as cost-effectively as possible without rapidly hitting the
> > reinstall
> > limitations begun with Windows XP?
> > --
> > Help Disabled American Veterans reclaim the future they sacrificed in
> > service to our nation and world security in general. Put someone in a
> > wheelchair in front of a computer with the right software!

>
>
>

 
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Dave
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      06-18-2007
I'm not positive about the answer to your first question, but I think in
theory, it's infinite.

You can install the retail version on another computer that you build, if
you have the DVD... you just have to telephone to activate it.

You cannot legally install a OEM version on a new computer.


"InsaneEyeDoctor" <.(like I don''''t get spam already?)>
wrote in message news:8F1E9D7D-1594-45EA-A5B4-...
> How many reinstalls to the same machine will Vista Ultimate allow before
> it
> requires phone calls for activation? Please do not repeat the same answer
> to
> this question. We are not talking about installing Vista Ultimate to more
> than one machine. From your reply I understand now that there is
> absolutely
> no difference between an OEM and a Retail version.....if your computer
> burns
> down your Retail copy of Ultimate is absolutely useless, just like the OEM
> version would be. You can't build yourself a new computer with better
> parts
> and put the retail version on it because it was already installed once on
> a
> machine that no longer exists. This is certainly going to make the news!
>
> --
> Help Disabled American Veterans reclaim the future they sacrificed in
> service to our nation and world security in general. Put someone in a
> wheelchair in front of a computer with the right software!
>
>
> "Tiberius" wrote:
>
>> you cannot install the same vista product key *license* on more than one
>> machine physical or virtual.
>>
>> however if you want, there is a free virtual machine download *VHD* that
>> is
>> actually Vista that will last for 30 days...
>>
>> do you want that?
>>
>>
>> "InsaneEyeDoctor" <.(like I don''''t get spam
>> already?)>
>> wrote in message
>> news:E86F7B51-524C-409B-84DB-...
>> > How many reinstalls of Vista Ultimate are allowed before I'll have to
>> > call
>> > in
>> > for re-authorization? If a disabled veteran without a lot of money is
>> > trying
>> > to learn how to lay out a basic network with Active Directory on Server
>> > 2003
>> > with Vista Ultimate Client(s), and use Virtualization technology in the
>> > process, what would be the best thing for them to do. I'm interested in
>> > trying both OS's as Hosts for Virtual Networking. Unfortunately, I
>> > don't
>> > qualify for Vista Enterprise. What would your recommendation be as to
>> > how
>> > to
>> > do this as cost-effectively as possible without rapidly hitting the
>> > reinstall
>> > limitations begun with Windows XP?
>> > --
>> > Help Disabled American Veterans reclaim the future they sacrificed in
>> > service to our nation and world security in general. Put someone in a
>> > wheelchair in front of a computer with the right software!

>>
>>
>>

 
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KristleBawl
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      06-18-2007
He doesn't know, he gave up on Vista too soon.

I don't think anyone has counted them yet, but I read that you can
reactivate online a certain number of times 'within' some number of days
before needing to call, so I think that implies that after 90 or 120 days,
or whatever the number is, then you get to reactivate online again for a
while longer.

If that's true, then it would depend on how often you needed to reinstall
and reactivate, too.

However, people have posted that the phone reactivation is toll-free and
takes less than 5 minutes.

I wish I could give you a more specific answer.

KB

"InsaneEyeDoctor" wrote in message
news:8F1E9D7D-1594-45EA-A5B4-...
> How many reinstalls to the same machine will Vista Ultimate allow before
> it
> requires phone calls for activation? Please do not repeat the same answer
> to
> this question. We are not talking about installing Vista Ultimate to more
> than one machine. From your reply I understand now that there is
> absolutely
> no difference between an OEM and a Retail version.....if your computer
> burns
> down your Retail copy of Ultimate is absolutely useless, just like the OEM
> version would be. You can't build yourself a new computer with better
> parts
> and put the retail version on it because it was already installed once on
> a
> machine that no longer exists. This is certainly going to make the news!
>
>
> "Tiberius" wrote:
>
>> you cannot install the same vista product key *license* on more than one
>> machine physical or virtual.
>>
>> however if you want, there is a free virtual machine download *VHD* that
>> is
>> actually Vista that will last for 30 days...
>>
>> do you want that?
>>

 
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Ken Blake, MVP
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      06-18-2007
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:42:02 -0700, InsaneEyeDoctor
<.(like I don''''t get spam already?)> wrote:

>From your reply I understand now that there is absolutely
>no difference between an OEM and a Retail version.....if your computer burns
>down your Retail copy of Ultimate is absolutely useless, just like the OEM
>version would be. You can't build yourself a new computer with better parts
>and put the retail version on it because it was already installed once on a
>machine that no longer exists.



You understand incorrectly. That's not at all true. Like previous
versions, you can move a retail copy (not an OEM copy) of Vista from
computer to computer as often as you need or want to.

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Rock
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      06-19-2007
"InsaneEyeDoctor" wrote
> How many reinstalls to the same machine will Vista Ultimate allow before
> it
> requires phone calls for activation?


The activation database is reset after a time, I believe it's 120 days, so
if it's been longer than that between installations it will go through on
the internet.

> Please do not repeat the same answer to
> this question. We are not talking about installing Vista Ultimate to more
> than one machine. From your reply I understand now that there is
> absolutely
> no difference between an OEM and a Retail version.....if your computer
> burns
> down your Retail copy of Ultimate is absolutely useless, just like the OEM
> version would be.


That's not so. A retail version can be reinstalled on the same computer, or
moved to a different computer if first uininstalled from the one it's on, as
many times as you want.

<snip>

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Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

 
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Stephan Rose
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      06-19-2007
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:10:27 -0700, Rock wrote:

> "InsaneEyeDoctor" wrote
>> How many reinstalls to the same machine will Vista Ultimate allow before
>> it
>> requires phone calls for activation?

>
> The activation database is reset after a time, I believe it's 120 days, so
> if it's been longer than that between installations it will go through on
> the internet.
>
>> Please do not repeat the same answer to
>> this question. We are not talking about installing Vista Ultimate to more
>> than one machine. From your reply I understand now that there is
>> absolutely
>> no difference between an OEM and a Retail version.....if your computer
>> burns
>> down your Retail copy of Ultimate is absolutely useless, just like the OEM
>> version would be.

>
> That's not so. A retail version can be reinstalled on the same computer, or
> moved to a different computer if first uininstalled from the one it's on, as
> many times as you want.


So what if someone has an OEM version and their motherboard and a few
other component die due to say a lightning strike and they need to replace
them?

It's not a new computer....still the same computer just with new
replacement parts.

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Larry Maturo
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      06-19-2007
Hi Stephan,

If you get a lightening strike, call MS to reactivate, and tell them
of your woes. It's not in their best interest to make customers mad,
so I imagine if you haven't done anything suspecious in the past that they
would be happy to help.

-- Larry Maturo

"Stephan Rose" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:10:27 -0700, Rock wrote:
>
>> "InsaneEyeDoctor" wrote
>>> How many reinstalls to the same machine will Vista Ultimate allow before
>>> it
>>> requires phone calls for activation?

>>
>> The activation database is reset after a time, I believe it's 120 days,
>> so
>> if it's been longer than that between installations it will go through on
>> the internet.
>>
>>> Please do not repeat the same answer to
>>> this question. We are not talking about installing Vista Ultimate to
>>> more
>>> than one machine. From your reply I understand now that there is
>>> absolutely
>>> no difference between an OEM and a Retail version.....if your computer
>>> burns
>>> down your Retail copy of Ultimate is absolutely useless, just like the
>>> OEM
>>> version would be.

>>
>> That's not so. A retail version can be reinstalled on the same computer,
>> or
>> moved to a different computer if first uininstalled from the one it's on,
>> as
>> many times as you want.

>
> So what if someone has an OEM version and their motherboard and a few
> other component die due to say a lightning strike and they need to replace
> them?
>
> It's not a new computer....still the same computer just with new
> replacement parts.
>
> --
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> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
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