Media Center and Copy Protection

What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
restore. That does not bode well for the future.

Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
(an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
is running Windows 2000 pro.

Have you tried playing them in Real player? It might not work, but it did for
me, so I thought I'd suggest it.

"eav" wrote:

> What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
> recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
> PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
> of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
> problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
> off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
> system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
> restore. That does not bode well for the future.
>
> Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
> (an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
> Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
> is running Windows 2000 pro.
>
>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 05:44:59 +0000, eav wrote:

> What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
> recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
> PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
> of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
> problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
> off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
> system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
> restore. That does not bode well for the future.
>
> Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
> (an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
> Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
> is running Windows 2000 pro.

The System restore likely wiped out the license information needed by the
DRM to play the videos. So you'll have to get that back...somehow. Lovely,
isn't it? One reason why I refuse to support anything DRM.

As far as the speed goes. What do you expect? Vista uses by magnitudes
more resources than Win2k does. =)

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eav wrote:
> What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
> recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
> PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
> of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
> problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
> off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
> system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
> restore. That does not bode well for the future.
>
> Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
> (an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
> Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
> is running Windows 2000 pro.

This may help,

Tunebite Platinum 4.1.0.22

Tunebite Platinum - freedom from audio and video copy-protection formats

Tunebite Platinum not only frees your music and audio books from copy
protection, it frees your music videos as well. In addition to Tunebite
Premium's functions, Tunebite Platinum automatically plays and records
copy-protected WMV and M4V videos, and saves the recordings as unprotected
MP3, OGG, WMA and WAV files. Enjoy videos you've purchased online at home
on your PC!
[13 mb]

http://rapidshare.com/files/37574781/SDGS0165.rar

Rar password= isolde

(You will need Winrar to unpack the rar file.)
..

bomb#20 wrote:
> eav wrote:
>> What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
>> recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
>> PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
>> of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
>> problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
>> off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
>> system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
>> restore. That does not bode well for the future.
>>
>> Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
>> (an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
>> Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
>> is running Windows 2000 pro.
>
> This may help,
>
> Tunebite Platinum 4.1.0.22
>
> Tunebite Platinum - freedom from audio and video copy-protection formats
>
> Tunebite Platinum not only frees your music and audio books from copy
> protection, it frees your music videos as well. In addition to Tunebite
> Premium's functions, Tunebite Platinum automatically plays and records
> copy-protected WMV and M4V videos, and saves the recordings as unprotected
> MP3, OGG, WMA and WAV files. Enjoy videos you've purchased online at home
> on your PC!
> [13 mb]
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/37574781/SDGS0165.rar
>
> Rar password= isolde
>
> (You will need Winrar to unpack the rar file.)
> .
>
>
>
>
I agree that "content protection" is a real horror. It is an incredible
nuisance for users, has destroyed the longstanding doctrine of fair use,
increases consumer costs, and impedes hardware development and
deployment. The latest example of the latter are the limitations that
are impeding computer playback of high definition video.
For audio only, an excellent program that will remove copy protection
from properly licensed WMA Protect files is: WMAConvert.

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:25:28 -0400, Robert Robinson wrote:

> bomb#20 wrote:
>> eav wrote:
>>> What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
>>> recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
>>> PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
>>> of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
>>> problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
>>> off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
>>> system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
>>> restore. That does not bode well for the future.
>>>
>>> Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
>>> (an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
>>> Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
>>> is running Windows 2000 pro.
>>
>> This may help,
>>
>> Tunebite Platinum 4.1.0.22
>>
>> Tunebite Platinum - freedom from audio and video copy-protection formats
>>
>> Tunebite Platinum not only frees your music and audio books from copy
>> protection, it frees your music videos as well. In addition to Tunebite
>> Premium's functions, Tunebite Platinum automatically plays and records
>> copy-protected WMV and M4V videos, and saves the recordings as unprotected
>> MP3, OGG, WMA and WAV files. Enjoy videos you've purchased online at home
>> on your PC!
>> [13 mb]
>>
>> http://rapidshare.com/files/37574781/SDGS0165.rar
>>
>> Rar password= isolde
>>
>> (You will need Winrar to unpack the rar file.)
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I agree that "content protection" is a real horror. It is an incredible
> nuisance for users, has destroyed the longstanding doctrine of fair use,
> increases consumer costs, and impedes hardware development and
> deployment. The latest example of the latter are the limitations that
> are impeding computer playback of high definition video.
> For audio only, an excellent program that will remove copy protection
> from properly licensed WMA Protect files is: WMAConvert.

Programs like that generally only work though *if* you can play the files
in the first place. They don't work if you *can't* play the files due to
something being messed up with the DRM.

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"eav" <> wrote in message
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> At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone.

Windows XP had the same DRM in place.

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Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:25:28 -0400, Robert Robinson wrote:
>
>> bomb#20 wrote:
>>> eav wrote:
>>>> What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
>>>> recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
>>>> PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
>>>> of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
>>>> problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
>>>> off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
>>>> system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
>>>> restore. That does not bode well for the future.
>>>>
>>>> Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
>>>> (an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
>>>> Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
>>>> is running Windows 2000 pro.
>>> This may help,
>>>
>>> Tunebite Platinum 4.1.0.22
>>>
>>> Tunebite Platinum - freedom from audio and video copy-protection formats
>>>
>>> Tunebite Platinum not only frees your music and audio books from copy
>>> protection, it frees your music videos as well. In addition to Tunebite
>>> Premium's functions, Tunebite Platinum automatically plays and records
>>> copy-protected WMV and M4V videos, and saves the recordings as unprotected
>>> MP3, OGG, WMA and WAV files. Enjoy videos you've purchased online at home
>>> on your PC!
>>> [13 mb]
>>>
>>> http://rapidshare.com/files/37574781/SDGS0165.rar
>>>
>>> Rar password= isolde
>>>
>>> (You will need Winrar to unpack the rar file.)
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I agree that "content protection" is a real horror. It is an incredible
>> nuisance for users, has destroyed the longstanding doctrine of fair use,
>> increases consumer costs, and impedes hardware development and
>> deployment. The latest example of the latter are the limitations that
>> are impeding computer playback of high definition video.
>> For audio only, an excellent program that will remove copy protection
>> from properly licensed WMA Protect files is: WMAConvert.
>
> Programs like that generally only work though *if* you can play the files
> in the first place. They don't work if you *can't* play the files due to
> something being messed up with the DRM.

Hi Stephan,

I agree with your comment. There is an exception that I won't discuss,
but I was careful to state that the commercially available programs do
not work except with content that is already properly licensed.
There is, however, an apparently legitimate method for providing data
backup. This is to remove the copy protection from the already licensed
content. You can then play the content without a further license check.

>

eav wrote:
> What a pain, I just found out that all the copy protected videos I
> recorded off the air, before my system crash on my new media center
> PC, will now not play after a system restore. I have not watched any
> of these videos yet. DRM is a total pain. Anyone have any ideas? The
> problems I am having with this system are really starting to **** me
> off. At this point I would not recommend Vista to anyone. I mean the
> system is not yet a month old and already its needed a total OS
> restore. That does not bode well for the future.
>
> Another issue that ticks me off; looking at the hardware, this system,
> (an HP m8020n) should be massively faster than my old notebook, (a
> Toshiba Satellite A15-S127), but perceptually it's not. The notebook
> is running Windows 2000 pro.
>

You should try a media center PC without all that crappy, buggy DRM.

http://www.mythpvr.com/mythtv/distri...install-1.html

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On Jun 27, 2:02 am, Necunoscut <Necunos...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Have you tried playing them in Real player? It might not work, but it did for
> me, so I thought I'd suggest it.
>

Thanks for your suggestion, I installed Real Player however it did not
play these videos. I went ahead and uninstalled Real Player because I
found it to be very intrusive, it just displayed too much advertising
and other "stuff" I did not ask for.